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Has anyone here ever experimented with 2C-B alongside salvia? I recently smoked a fair bit of salvia and MDMB-4en-PINACA while on the highest dose of NBXX's I've ever been on (mixed 25B-NBOH and 25I-NBOMe), and the salvia really grounded me, but the spice did quite the opposite, felt a lot like PCP. The next couple days, I've been smoking salvia alongside 2C-B micro/mesodoses (7-12mg orally) and they really do compliment one another quite well.

Another question for fellow BLers, for people who have consumed peyote (especially Lophophora diffusa or fricii, aka "false peyotes"), have you ever felt an urge to redose? I ate half a button of Lophophora diffusa a week or so ago because the other half was beginning to die of rot, and it felt like the essence of vitality and health itself, it's so hard to describe. I suspect that the experiential effects are a result of the tetrahydroisoquinolines, but does anyone here have experience with those plants/compounds, and if so, have you also felt the urge to eat that shit essentially every single day? If I had access to an infinite supply of ethically sourced buttons, they'd probably be the bottom of my food pyramid at this point.
 
Has anyone here ever experimented with 2C-B alongside salvia? I recently smoked a fair bit of salvia and MDMB-4en-PINACA while on the highest dose of NBXX's I've ever been on (mixed 25B-NBOH and 25I-NBOMe), and the salvia really grounded me, but the spice did quite the opposite, felt a lot like PCP. The next couple days, I've been smoking salvia alongside 2C-B micro/mesodoses (7-12mg orally) and they really do compliment one another quite well.
Let's see a show of hands of the people that do this. 😉

Yeah you are trailblazing here Esper. I really love that people are talking about Salvia again. I seemed to have been the only one in the mega thread. Pupnik too. Salvia has been a great ally for me. But as I usually do anything I take it on its own. Believe it or not the only combo I ever did in my life was last spring when i took a blotter of acid and then added 20 mgs of 2CB. It was sort of too much for me. In my younger days I feel I could keep up. I remember friends when we would go to shows, take a little acid add some mushrooms later. I would take what I was going to take at once, not redose and enjoy what I was doing. Always smoked weed though all through it.

I think both the nbomes and synth noids are full on agonists for where they work. Taking Salvia to ground is pretty cool. I usually feel centered a few days after Salvia. But full on agonists pounding the brain, does not get any more serious than that. I loved JWH-018, would love to come across it again. I know we have people here where a gram lasted them a week. A gram lasted me a year and a half. lol I made a little parsley batch with 50 mgs to a gram. One hit was like 3 hits of weed. (1 mg a hit)

I would like to try the nbomes, not sure I ever will. But I love reading about them and we do not have too many people that can type trip reports.

I admire your Spirit Esper. I honestly think you will be fine, as sometimes I worry some people will end up in the shrine and they do. But you have some very large tolerance that will keep you healthy. But I do feel the need to say careful man, we need you on this Earth to keep the balance. Proceed wisely as you have been.
 
I admire your Spirit Esper. I honestly think you will be fine, as sometimes I worry some people will end up in the shrine and they do. But you have some very large tolerance that will keep you healthy. But I do feel the need to say careful man, we need you on this Earth to keep the balance. Proceed wisely as you have been.
Yeah @Esperighanto , please be careful with the NBOx! I have a feeling that things can go south very fast with them. It should be a bit of a warning sign that NBOx are self-administered in animal studies. They have a certain pull to them. Don't get carried away in a frenzy. We need you here. As much as your reports convince me of your invincibility, I'm afraid there are limits here too.
 
I would like to try the nbomes, not sure I ever will. But I love reading about them and we do not have too many people that can type trip reports.
If you're curious about either 25C-NBOMe, 25I-NBOMe, or 25B-NBOH, I can detail any (or all) of them for you, as far as total experiences I'm maybe 25-50 total with 25C, 10-20 with 25I, and maybe 5-10 with 25B so far.
I admire your Spirit Esper. I honestly think you will be fine, as sometimes I worry some people will end up in the shrine and they do. But you have some very large tolerance that will keep you healthy. But I do feel the need to say careful man, we need you on this Earth to keep the balance. Proceed wisely as you have been.
I appreciate the kind words and the reminder, to stay safe, I've got far too much to live for to risk it over stupid shit. When working with compounds that have narrow therapeutic indices, I tend to compound it (as in turn the crystal into an RoA, not compound as in mix with something else, sorry for the confusion I'm stoned as a rock off HHC right now) ASAP so that it's in a safe form. For example, I have two sheets of MDMB-4en-PINACA at 200ug per tab, and 18 sheets at 150ug per tab. I never take more than one tab every 6 hours, and frankly, I don't feel much of a draw towards MDMB-4en-PINACA like I do towards HHC and THC-O. THC-O I consume as an olive oil tincture, and it can last easily over a day. It's super pleasant except for taking too much and being too stoned to drive the next day, that's the only downside. HHC for me feels like a more psychedelic, headspace enhancing, less cloudy variant on D9 THC, so I prefer it heavily. the HHC is in a box mod setup right now.

I have been slacking on writing up more trip reports for you (I know we talked about it months ago), life has still been incredibly chaotic and stressful but I am hopefully going to be meaningfully employed again soon, and will have time to get those written up. My fiance and I are producing a podcast right now, and I'm also coding on two separate projects (kind of three if you count the small amount of involvement I've had so far with BL, no code written yet but I'm keeping my eye on the Slack for the opportunity to contribute), and I have an EP that may actually just become a beat tape that I'm trying to finish by Halloween. Keeping busy keeps my mind running well, but writing the trip reports just kept slipping off my radar. Weird question, but if I were to lpresent the list of a handful of experiences I've considered writing about on here, which would interest you the most to hear about? I'll just list the substances, doses, and a brief sentence describing the set and setting.
  • Drinking a vial of LSD that is estimated to be ~500x the potency of an average tab off the street, but it might've just been ~300x. Regardless, it involved a four hour blackout and roughly four days of an LSD experience because I kept railing huge dabs.
  • 2.2mg of 25C-NBOMe, 13 weak tabs of acid (unknown dose, but maybe a total of 300-500ug), an unknown but large about of 2-FXE, and it was the hottest day of the year so I was stressfully packing all my drugs into large airtight mason jars to keep them safe from the humidity.
  • A 1.5-2mg dose of LSD alongside ~600mg of ketamine throughout a night, where I delusionally believed that the queen of England had a "killswitch" installed in her skull that I needed to inform the IRA about so they could flick a ball bearing at her just right to trigger it.
  • The night I drank ~160mg of N,N-DiPT, 45mg of 2C-B, 75ug of LSD, and 25mg of 5-MeO-DiPT in a wacked out potion I named "Refraction".
  • The most peculiar entity contact I've ever experienced, an LSD + Harmaline sort of succubus creature.
  • When I was cultivating mushrooms I'd literally fill my pockets with them and just walk around the city eating them like candy, and the day after a surgery that left stitches on my genitals I had to walk something like 2-3 miles to get my car back from the hospital, that was a long walk.
  • My few encounters with mescaline/peyote were pretty fascinating imo.
  • I think I've already written about the pharmahuasca binge, but the ayahuasca with blue lotus hasn't received a proper writeup yet iirc.
  • The first time I dropped a tenstrip was nutty, my reflection in the mirror walked away, I saw a bird that was actually a flying book, that was actually a biblical angel. Saw some deity between my pupil and iris, and they wanted me to help them get out, but I was like "I'm just some dude, you're a DEITY, this is YOUR job to figure out".
  • The best roll of my life, 125mg of MDA, unmeasured but large amounts of 3-MeO-PCP, and ~25-30mg of 2C-B.
  • Eating ~150mg of 2C-B, which resembled insufflating ~70-100mg of 2C-B, both were DMT breakthrough-like experiences.
  • A month or two after one of the most severe concussions of my life, 25mg of DOM, 25mg of 2C-B, and 40mg of 4-HO-MiPT were whipped up into one fat line of "party powder" and insufflated by yours truly. Later when I couldn't sleep, I decided to chainsmoke 3-MeO-PCP dippers that my fiance calls "Grimace dippers" (after the McDonald's character) due to their color. It was the first time I ever broke through on PCP, fundamentally altered my life.
  • Taking something like 100-125mg of allylescaline followed up by an 80mg redose 8 hours later, another one of those fundamentally life altering trips. I actually heard a song I listened to while on this trip earlier and broke out sobbing at the sheer beauty of life, it was quite unexpected.
  • MDMA, Soma, and 7-OH to celebrate my engagement was also worth writing about almost entirely due to the set and setting.
If any of those stand out as ones you want writeups of sooner rather than later, let me know. I always have to preface my writeups with something alone the lines of "I am extremely hardheaded with hallucinogens, experienced with them, and am surrounded by supportive people who are also highly experienced with them. Do NOT try to dosematch me, I'm simply exploring the boundaries of what my cognition may possibly contain."

As Sasha Shulgin said about peyote, "No dark corners", that's how I try to keep my mind. Fully explored, mapped out, and under optimal conditions and control.

Yeah @Esperighanto , please be careful with the NBOx! I have a feeling that things can go south very fast with them. It should be a bit of a warning sign that NBOx are self-administered in animal studies. They have a certain pull to them. Don't get carried away in a frenzy. We need you here. As much as your reports convince me of your invincibility, I'm afraid there are limits here too.
There are certainly limits, I do my best not to push them. The NBXX dose would've been equivalent to 1.75-2.25 tabs of standard NBOMe blotter from the old Silk Road days, but the agar tabs I have are incredibly weak, so 9 of them was necessary to add up from 200ug to get to 1.8mg, which was the aim. I can get the compulsion towards NBXXs, especially 25C, there was a month 2 years or so ago where I ate a quarter of a sheet of 25C within a month, then decided to permanently pace myself with it because that was absolutely not good for me. I appreciate the kind words here. I'll continue to exhibit harm reduction, I've faced death enough growing up with illness that alternated between chronic and terminal.
I think both the nbomes and synth noids are full on agonists for where they work. Taking Salvia to ground is pretty cool. I usually feel centered a few days after Salvia. But full on agonists pounding the brain, does not get any more serious than that. I loved JWH-018, would love to come across it again. I know we have people here where a gram lasted them a week. A gram lasted me a year and a half. lol I made a little parsley batch with 50 mgs to a gram. One hit was like 3 hits of weed. (1 mg a hit)
This one gram of MDMB-4en-PINACA I acquired will almost certainly outlive me, 2,100 tabs and I'm not drawn to even use 1 a day, I have a strong feeling they'll sit in the bottom of my safe for a large number of years tbh. As interesting as the compound is, PCP derivatives, THC-H, THC-B, 2F-DCK, and 2-FXE are significantly more interesting to me personally. I put 35mg of MDMB-4en-PINACA on 50g of sinicuichi and it was WAY too strong, a single fat hit would have colorful gems swirling around me and weird goatheaded people doing what I can only describe as Lovecraftian breakdancing routines in the field outside of my house. I infused the next batch as 25mg of MDMB-4en-PINACA on about 200g of damiana, then homogenized the absolute shit out of them, repowderized the whole deal, homogenized it again, and now it's at a good balance where smoking a full bowl's worth of aggressive both rips can get me to trip off of it, but otherwise it's just like clearheaded, short acting cannabis. Still lacks the charm of THC-H, THC-B, THC-V, the HHC family, THC-O, and THC-P though in my personal opinion.
 
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If you're curious about either 25C-NBOMe, 25I-NBOMe, or 25B-NBOH, I can detail any (or all) of them for you, as far as total experiences I'm maybe 25-50 total with 25C, 10-20 with 25I, and maybe 5-10 with 25B so far.
Hey if you feel like typing up trip reports you know I will read it.

I have been slacking on writing up more trip reports for you (I know we talked about it months ago), life has still been incredibly chaotic and stressful but I am hopefully going to be meaningfully employed again soon, and will have time to get those written up.
No worries, we await!! Stay well.

I did not know synth noids were still used at all. 2014 was my last use. I have to say 5 different kinds. Like half a gram of each, enough to play with

1 JWH 018 - best synth noid, was like a dream to get a gram that is equal to how many pounds of weed?
2. 5-FUR-UR144 - Very strong. very short. 20 minutes later I was straight like nothing happened. I OD once and it was the scariest experience of my life. But interesting how the brain bounces back so quick.
3. UR144 - longer lasting, not as strong but nice
4. FUB-PB22 - pretty cool, tasted like chlorine lol
5. JWH-210 - like the mellow part of weed, stoning couch lock.

Once weed became legal and I didn't have to chase my nephew around for my ounce I went back to weed. Now just two hits of todays weed and I am baked.
 
Once weed became legal and I didn't have to chase my nephew around for my ounce I went back to weed. Now just two hits of todays weed and I am baked.
I love that weed is legal (just over a year now!) where I live finally. Sadly, conservatives are back at the steering wheel (a global phenomenon), so I hope in the scientific evaluation they will not get any stupid ideas. Growing myself really changed my relationship with that plant. It is so nice never running out of it.
 
I love that weed is legal (just over a year now!) where I live finally. Sadly, conservatives are back at the steering wheel (a global phenomenon), so I hope in the scientific evaluation they will not get any stupid ideas. Growing myself really changed my relationship with that plant. It is so nice never running out of it.
The genie is out of the bottle. Although they still did some raids around here. The state wants you to sell their cannabis. But my guy gets his from Vermont and California. But he survived, he has a neat little shop.

I tried growing once. At some point I will try again but I am glad others know how!

Even the convenient store sells TCH-A bud. So you can get the stuff anywhere.

The next state does it completely different. But brand names are key. Garden Greens is potent and some of the best I have had.
 
It's funny, because they did not allow selling here. Medical access got a whole lot easier, so many people buy medical cannabis prescribed by sketchy online doctors. Otherwise, to legally access weed, you'll need to join a social club (scarce), or grow it yourself. I chose the latter option. I actually like having to supply my own drugs. I always know who, why and how anything was made. Its a nice relationship to have towards mind altering substances.
 
Hey if you feel like typing up trip reports you know I will read it.


No worries, we await!! Stay well.

I did not know synth noids were still used at all. 2014 was my last use. I have to say 5 different kinds. Like half a gram of each, enough to play with

1 JWH 018 - best synth noid, was like a dream to get a gram that is equal to how many pounds of weed?
2. 5-FUR-UR144 - Very strong. very short. 20 minutes later I was straight like nothing happened. I OD once and it was the scariest experience of my life. But interesting how the brain bounces back so quick.
3. UR144 - longer lasting, not as strong but nice
4. FUB-PB22 - pretty cool, tasted like chlorine lol
5. JWH-210 - like the mellow part of weed, stoning couch lock.

Once weed became legal and I didn't have to chase my nephew around for my ounce I went back to weed. Now just two hits of todays weed and I am baked.
I intend on exploring more in the future, but they'll probably have to be homemade because the market for synthetic cannabinoids is truly garbage right now. I got this gram of MDMB-4en-PINACA for less than the cost of 5 Big Macs from McDonald's. I impulsively threw it in an order and didn't even open the vacuum sealed package for over a year, but I'm glad that I did. It exhibits a profoundly unique character compared to other cannabinoids I've tried (THC-H, THC-B, THC-P, THC-O, THC-V, THC-P-O, and a handful of CBX's). AM2201 (the 5-Fluoro variant of JWH-018 iirc?) seems fascinating, and frankly all of them that you listed seem neat. HU-210 Is a neat one, it's an NMDA antagonist apparently? Reminds me of how Tifluadom is a benzodiazepine that acts as a kappa agonist like salvia, and this experimental 2,3-benzodiazepine named GYKI-52895 which is a DRI. I grew up in an area absolutely saturated with top quality cannabis, even before legalization (though I was 15 I think, when Maine legalized cannabis).

I would guess that MDMB-4en-PINACA won the capitalistic war of drugs by being SO active, I have an insane cannabis tolerance (used to dab 2g+ daily for almost 2 years) and I could detect MDMB-4en-PINACA orally down to ~10 micrograms. It really thrived orally up to maybe 125-175mg, and past that it got into the "damn I'm just confused and emptyheaded territory". Pushed it up to 470ug iirc, that was unwise, I was like a brainless zombie for about 1.5-2 days, reminded me of the time I ate 250mg of THC-P-O acetate coming down off of a tenstrip and my skin/the whites of my eyes yellowed (jaundice likely), I could barely think or walk or speak, called out of work for a little bit over that one hahaha. So far though, THC-P-O has been the closest I've come to actual danger from a cannabinoid. When I was laying THC-H, B, and P to blotter, I used 4mg intervals, sometimes 2mg for THC-P, but THC-P-O was anywhere from 300-1200 micrograms, and it still lasted literally days for people with low tolerance.

Edit: When you say today's weed, how long ago did you first use cannabis? I first came across cannabis in the form of edibles 13 years ago as a high school freshman, smoking weed (but not salvia, hydrocodone or zolpidem) threw me into wild asthma attacks. As a result, I was an absolute gremlin with edibles from 13 and onwards, to this day I'm often dosing 125-500mg of THC-O oil orally. Weed doesn't seem like it's changed a ton for me though, at least from the perspective of being in Maine up until 2017, then from July of 2020 until NYE of 2025.
It's funny, because they did not allow selling here. Medical access got a whole lot easier, so many people buy medical cannabis prescribed by sketchy online doctors. Otherwise, to legally access weed, you'll need to join a social club (scarce), or grow it yourself. I chose the latter option. I actually like having to supply my own drugs. I always know who, why and how anything was made. Its a nice relationship to have towards mind altering substances.
Is CBD illegal? It isomerizes into THC easily.
I tried growing once. At some point I will try again but I am glad others know how!
You say tried, but did it succeed? My first grow was a single bonsai, but the second was 28 or 29 plants iirc, only 9 survived, and it yielded a whole 56g exactly of some low-to-mid quality Blue Dream, hahaha.
 
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I facilitated someone's first salvia trip for the first time in around fifteen years yesterday, actually. It went really well. I tried to prepare her for it as much as possible and she ended up having a very positive experience and specifically commented that she thought the preparation was helpful. It was night and day compared to the experiences I witnessed back when we were dumb kids just buying strong extracts at head shops and smoking them blindly to see what would happen, and she's not much older now than we were back then. I think salvia might be due for a resurgence, it seems like there's a lot more awareness and focus on treating it with respect and building a relationship with it the right way these days than there was back then. I'd love to see more people talking about it in general, it's a wonderful and fascinating drug.

She started off smoking a bowl of plain leaf over three hits, one hit at a time and letting it sink in more each time, then took a few minutes to consider and decided to go for a bowl of 10X, which she smoked half of and then stopped. I'm not going to tell her story, but she described to me a trip that seemed relatively profound and obviously personally meaningful. I do want to comment on how clearly it hit her really hard, and how she remained happy throughout. After smoking the 10X, she remained almost completely silent for around half an hour, maybe a little more, looking like she was deep in thought or observation. She only spoke three times throughout this. First, around five or ten minutes after smoking, she looked over at me and I smiled at her, and she said "Interesting." and turned to look away again. Around twenty or so minutes after smoking, she looked at me again, smiled and softly said "Hey!" I smiled back and said "Hey." Then she turned away and became silent again. Finally, around half an hour after smoking, she looked back at me again, smiled again and said "Hey!" again. I said "Hey." again with probably a bit more of a chuckle that time. After that she started coming out of it and telling me about what she had been experiencing.

She was smiling the whole time, was in a very good and clearly relaxed mood after the trip, and said she liked her experience. It made me very happy seeing her have such an incredibly positive salvia experience, especially because she's been excitedly talking about wanting to do it for weeks now. I really think preparation is everything and that probably a lot more people would be able to get a lot more out of salvia if they just had the proper education about it and used it in more careful ways. I hope that's what we're seeing now as it's been around and discussed for longer and people are starting to better understand the ways to get the most out of it, it definitely does seem like it's been popular lately to me in a way I don't remember seeing with it before, although maybe I'm just looking in the right places too.
 
Earlier tonight I took 30mg of 5-MeO-DiPT, 15-20mg of 4-HO-MiPT, and ~25mg of psilacetin (as a later redose) on top of having eaten 400ug of MDMB-4en-PINACA, vaporizing some HHC, and taking my usual bupropion and caffeine. It was an absolutely unreal mix, the type of trip where you can barely see through the fractals, if that makes sense. This is even crazier given that less than a week ago I had a trip of similar intensity on mixed 25I-NBOMe and 25B-NBOH. The trip lasted for ~12 hours, far longer than expected, and one of my cats threw me into a serious histamine crisis, so 25-50mg each of DPH and DXM was taken about T+12:00 after the initial psychedelic doses, alongside 10mg of aripiprazole, ~3mg of etizolam, 200mg of caffeine, 100mg of IR bupropion, and 25mg of galantamine to pull me out of some of the brain fog.

Has anybody here ever eaten synthetic cannabinoids, or used galantamine as an enhancer of clarity-of-thought?
 
Took 14.2 mg 2C-I today as my first experience with the material. Intensity similar to about 16 - 18 mg 2C-B, right where I aimed at. It's definitely a lot more visual than 2C-B for me! Unfortunately it also came with a decent chunk of bodyload, i.e. a bit of stomach cramping, muscle tension, a bit of nausea. Not too bad, but definitely distracting. I didn't find it too stimulating mentally, was able to doze/daydream/daytrip the same as with 2C-B. The body itself did feel a bit stimulated though. Walking in the park or lying at home in bed did not really make a difference in terms of bodyload. From what I could tell, 2C-C is as far off from 2C-B as is 2C-I, but in different directions. If 2C-B is proper swimming, 2C-C is ankle-deep water, and 2C-I might be swimming out towards the ocean. Certainly an interesting compound, certainly worth exploring more, but I think I prefer the comfortable warm experience that is 2C-B. I think there is the real potential that 2C-I may be more erotic than 2C-B, definitely had some waves of hornyness with no apparent cause which I left unexplored, but the bodyload may just ruin it for me, as well as some lack of the warmth.

Oh, and Happy 100th Birthday to the person I can thank for being able to have today's experience.
 
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