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Phenethylamines 2C-B, worth trying on its own?

Pfafffed said:
:oops: My nose would never be the same again.
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This was during an 8-10 month phase where @Felidaez and I were insufflating 2C-B numerous times a day, and somehow we just got used to it. Often we could break 150mg in a day but we wouldn't do it all in one dose like @chris_p bombs, we'd do a bunch of smaller doses throughout our day essentially.
 
I ordered more fml the comeup was the most beautiful shit I ever saw. Was staring at the sunset from my balcony and the colours were beautiful. Wont overdo it this time and wont lose my xanax. I think the high was worth it
 
I once plugged around 500mg over the course of an hour and the experience became extremely dysporic in a mostly physical sense. Something about my body just felt wrong like I was inhabiting a foreign corpse. I found myself just staring at the ceiling for about an hour and the feeling eventually passed and as usual after 3-4 hours I was back to baseline with no ill aftereffects.

One another occasion I went through around 800mg (mostly plugged) over a 6-ish hour period and had no such issues. That was on the backend of acid trip/candyflip though so there was significant tolerance at play.

This was all very fucking stupid of me btw I had no reason to believe what I was doing was safe I was simply dopamine chasing and didn't care. It's been a couple of years since I've done anything like this and these days rarely feel inclined to take more than 40mg of 2cb, which I usually take orally.
 
chris_p said:
I ordered more fml the comeup was the most beautiful shit I ever saw. Was staring at the sunset from my balcony and the colours were beautiful. Wont overdo it this time and wont lose my xanax. I think the high was worth it
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If you can access any, antipsychotics such as Trazodone also make good tripkillers, imo better than even Xanax.
 
Shinji Ikari said:
I once plugged around 500mg over the course of an hour and the experience became extremely dysporic in a mostly physical sense. Something about my body just felt wrong like I was inhabiting a foreign corpse. I found myself just staring at the ceiling for about an hour and the feeling eventually passed and as usual after 3-4 hours I was back to baseline with no ill aftereffects.

One another occasion I went through around 800mg (mostly plugged) over a 6-ish hour period and had no such issues. That was on the backend of acid trip/candyflip though so there was significant tolerance at play.

This was all very fucking stupid of me btw I had no reason to believe what I was doing was safe I was simply dopamine chasing and didn't care. It's been a couple of years since I've done anything like this and these days rarely feel inclined to take more than 40mg of 2cb, which I usually take orally.
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Same, 'corpse' is a good way of describing it. I remember going to take a piss and everything started warping and i was just standing there and didnt want to move I was standing and staring at the inane visuals completely stoned out of my mind my cat was going really crazy like running up to me and slapping me she knew something was up. Everything went from sunshine and rainbows to feeling extremely wrong in a physical sense. The chaoticness of the visuals and the physical sensation is mostly what scared me. On shrooms or dmt there is at least some sense or plot to the hallucinations, 2cb is just 'sensory overload' in physical and mental sense. Was also just dopamine chasing like the last time. The comeup is so euphoric you think itll just get better the more you take. Then it hits you that this is a powerful psychedelic and not just a recreational drug

Im also pretty sure I plugged way more than 150mg total, my dealer said he added MSM filler so the 2cb would fit the entire 200mg capsule of plugged I took 6 of, not sure they were properly dosed at all
 
chris_p said:
Im also pretty sure I plugged way more than 150mg total, my dealer said he added MSM filler so the 2cb would fit the entire 200mg capsule of plugged I took 6 of, not sure they were properly dosed at all
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Just to clarify here, you're receiving this 2C-B cut with MSM, so that it adds up to 200mg, but really 50mg of it is MSM?
chris_p said:
Way easier to get xanax.. id have to go to a doctor to get antipsychs. Maybe I will though
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I get that, in the USA it's tougher to find legit benzos whereas antipsychotics are given out by any doctor with a patient who claims they can't get to sleep, as Trazodone is used as a sleep aid/calming aid. Hyperactive pets and children are often fed trazos here, it's kind of a problem just how available it is honestly, imo.
 
Esperighanto said:
Just to clarify here, you're receiving this 2C-B cut with MSM, so that it adds up to 200mg, but really 50mg of it is MSM?
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Each capsule is 25mg 2cb but filled to 200mg with MSM however the potency of each capsule is very inconsistent. Not sure the guy whos filling them is doing a very good job measuring. Technically I should have consumed 150mg 2CB total and 1.05g of MSM from 6 capsules. Blacking out seems to point otherwise, and I had pretty strong tolerance from using shrooms 2 days prior

I get that, in the USA it's tougher to find legit benzos whereas antipsychotics are given out by any doctor with a patient who claims they can't get to sleep, as Trazodone is used as a sleep aid/calming aid. Hyperactive pets and children are often fed trazos here, it's kind of a problem just how available it is honestly, imo.
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Moreso it costs way too much for me to see a doctor than just to acquire xanax alternatively, and nobody is selling antipsychs on the streets. There is a theoretical framework of socialized healthcare but if you're white and employed good luck getting on that list
 
Esperighanto said:
Hyperactive pets and children are often fed trazos here
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I was about to be shocked by this before I remembered I was prescribed methylphenidate at the age of 9 which isn't exactly any better.
chris_p said:
my dealer said he added MSM filler so the 2cb would fit the entire 200mg capsule of plugged I took 6 of, not sure they were properly dosed at all
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Is he selling pure 2cb as well or are cut up capsules the only option?
 
Shinji Ikari said:
I was about to be shocked by this before I remembered I was prescribed methylphenidate at the age of 9 which isn't exactly any better.

Is he selling pure 2cb as well or are cut up capsules the only option?
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I asked him if I can get it pure a while back and he said he'd let me know. Sounds like he already cut up a big batch so don't think he's gonna bother just for one dude, but honestly it sounds like I'm the only one getting his 2cb
 
chris_p said:
I asked him if I can get it pure a while back and he said he'd let me know. Sounds like he already cut up a big batch so don't think he's gonna bother just for one dude, but honestly it sounds like I'm the only one getting his 2cb
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2C-B is quite rare in most areas, I wouldn't doubt that he may have trouble accessing it. Most Americans I know who have ever acquired it did so via international shipments because it's just not being produced in large amounts, in a clandestine fashion domestically. I hope we start to see NBOMes coming back once 2C's do though! I've only tried 25I-NBOMe, 25C-NBOMe and 25B-NBOH and adore all of them deeply. Getting to experience 25[E/D/iP/P/C/I/B]-NB[MD/OMe/OH] would take 21 total trips, but it'd be worth it for sure imo.

Edit: Why in the world is he cutting 2C-B in the first place? Especially with MSM, it's usually a ketamine cut. Why does he think having 2C-B in a capsule containing 200mg would sound worthwhile to consumers I wonder.

Shinji Ikari said:
I was about to be shocked by this before I remembered I was prescribed methylphenidate at the age of 9 which isn't exactly any better.
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Anything to get peoples' children to shut up, they'll typically do. I've seen parents force feeding melatonin and trazos to their kids before just to not have to deal with them.
 
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Esperighanto said:
Edit: Why in the world is he cutting 2C-B in the first place? Especially with MSM, it's usually a ketamine cut. Why does he think having 2C-B in a capsule containing 200mg would sound worthwhile to consumers I wonder.
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If a capsule looks filled its better I guess? I mean 25mg isnt a lot, it would look basically empty. Helps with dissolving it too I guess. If it wasnt in a capsule I would actually prefer it with this ratio of filler, would help a lot with dosing
 
Only tried it once, and that was half way through a 200mg dose of MDMA with half a bottle of vodka in the mix.

Fell asleep before it kicked in.

Woke up a couple of hours later to what looked like a veil across my vision.

Went back to sleep... :\
 
LucidSDreamr said:
It’s one of the best drugs ever. Not very deep psychologically but visually stunning and very hedonistic
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LucidSDreamr said:
Less organic visuals and more geometric. More like nbome visuals
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IME, that's entirely dose and individual dependent.
I get no bodyload or vasoconstriction from it whether I eat or snort it, it is very deep and I get geometric visuals with shrooms and especially DMT and natural flowy visuals with phenethylamines/amphetamines/NBOMes.
If someone thinks it's not that deep, My opinion is they took a dose that was too low, and if increasing the dose means visuals are too strong and the bodyload becomes uncomfortable, then it means that drug is not for you, not that it's not deep.
 
chris_p said:
If a capsule looks filled its better I guess? I mean 25mg isnt a lot, it would look basically empty. Helps with dissolving it too I guess. If it wasnt in a capsule I would actually prefer it with this ratio of filler, would help a lot with dosing
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It's actually technically very difficult to evenly mix dry powders together, and the results where drugs are concerned can be frustrating or even dangerous because there will be duds and unexpected hot-spots. This contributes to a large number of overdoses and deaths, especially where super-potent things like fentanyl are concerned. Personally I would never knowingly buy or use any drug that is "cut" in this way. I do not trust pressed tablets either unless they can be verified to be manufactured to pharma quality standards. Considering how I and most other people use psychedelics drugs, it's unacceptable if one cannot dose with a precision at least as good as +/- 5% because more than this can make a big difference in the intensity of a trip.

My guess is that the most likely reason said vendor is "cutting" everything to 200 mg is to save labor. So he/she mixes the 2C-B with the "cut" and then just loads up a whole bunch of capsules without having to weigh anything. This is quick and very dirty because it's a total crap-shoot what any given capsule contains. It's done by someone who is either very stupid or is in it purely for the money.
 
iom said:
Considering how I and most other people use psychedelics drugs, it's unacceptable if one cannot dose with a precision at least as good as +/- 5% because more than this can make a big difference in the intensity of a trip.
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I find it entirely inacceptable to not be able to choose the dose completely freely, without any increments dictated by pills or half pills.
 
xdrc said:
I find it entirely inacceptable to not be able to choose the dose completely freely, without any increments dictated by pills or half pills.
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If the dealer even just said something like "I homogenized the 2C-B into a 3:1 mixture of MSM:2C-B", you'd at least know the ratio you're working with, but as far as I'm aware the practice is just generally quite shady. I get that pressing pills is hard, but filling capsules is not.
 
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