I find LSD takes 7-10 days to fully reset tolerance sadly. I was getting purified harmalas (freebase or HCl), but was also using Banisteriopsis caapi vine as well as Syrian Rue. Rue was the least despireable and most nauseating for sure.
Phenethylamines 2C-B, worth trying on its own?
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CavernsoftheMind
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Volumetric dosing is a must for 2C-B anyways.
2mg more or less can make the trip way more / less intense.
Weigh out 200mg, mix it in 50ml vodka & store in a dark place.
Use a syringe to measure out f.e. 3ml for ~12mg.
Phobos33
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I dunno about those claims, i've tried 2C-B for the first time last year and i started off with 5 capsules dosed at 20mg and there was nothing physical side effects, no nausea, no chaotic visuals, nothing remotely negative. Even tho i thought 20mg was a little underwhelming, it did bring some interesting experiences that indeed had potential.
Then i ended up securing a huge personal amount of 2C-B HBr in salt form and even tho there was slightly less "magic" to it, it really does shine in the ballpark of 36mg. Even then, still nothing remotely negative to say other than 3 times i had slightly overdosed capsules which gave me challenging come ups(3rd one was the most intense but there was alot of really fun shit that ended up happening) but that's pretty much my scale that was to blame for that.
I've probably had 30 or so trips since last year and if i had to compare it to anything, i'd say that it's a "diet" version of LSD in alot of ways. I have yet to try combos with it but it's been something i have been wanting to try for a while but somehow never managed to make some time for it.
Didgital
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Which erowid are you talking about?
On the erowid that I know, theres 111 glowing experiences and 19 bad trip experiences on Erowid... Hardly 1:1
And vast majority of bad trips were people accidentally taking way too much.
chris_p
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Think I've done enough research so I've got 50mg coming my way tomorrow, as well as some shrooms and MDMA to combo with afterwards (in safe amounts). Will get more later if I end up enjoying it. Will report tomorrow night
This is what I usually do (with water). Plugging with vodka sounds dangerous
I may tend to look at the bad before the good. Although I'm more worried about being underwhelmed by the experience than having a bad time from taking too much, but reports mean nothing really, subjective experience is the only real way of knowing. If it's anything like mescaline I expect it to be great
xdrc
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I wouldn't expect it to be all that much like mescaline. Sure, there are some parallels - especially if you haven't tried all that many other phenethylamines and thus lack the vocabulary - but I do find them quite distinctive. Best to go into the experience not expecting too much and just let it (2C)-Be!
Oh man, I should really dose this one again.
Travis_Bickle
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I consider 2c-b to be one of the most versatile psychs. You can use it as a booster to other substances. You can take it by itself and in smaller doses for the euphoric body feel or larger doses for a proper psychedelics trip. In other words, yes, it’s worth trying on its own and can be used for different settings.
chris_p
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Well its finally here.. lets see if its worth all the hype
chris_p
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Wow.. just wow...yesterday was probably one of the craziest nights of my life. Started off plugging 25mg 2cb and it hit me almost instantly, it was like a very warm and friendly and welcoming DMT with very deep layered colours, kinda of a digital look, I was having very intense sub-breakthrough level visuals but mentally I was quantifiably sober. The visuals didnt last long only about ten fifteen or so minutes, then it became extremely euphoric and like others have said very erotic. Took some MDMA and this point, waited for it to hit, then plugged another 25mg, and i entered this state of pure divine bliss where every inch of my body was made up of this mass of shivering euphoria for what felt like lasted forever, I was just rolling around in my bed laughing nonstop. Ended up waking up on the floor with no memory of how I got there. Still feeling amazing but with a noticeable headache.
I felt like just after one day of experimentation I already completely understand and know 2C-B intimately and like it's been something my whole life that has been missing. I can easily imagine myself using it every day, it may be my favourite drug of all time if we're not counting dissociatives, but definitely tops every single other psychedelic by a huge margin. There is something so familiar and warm about its effects it's like a psychedelic hug almost that penetrates your body to the core.
Most of the side effects described I had none of including body loads or nausea, only headache after it worn off but this can be attributes to the large amount of MDMA I was taking too. I foolishly ordered 200mg more right as I plugged my last 2cb pill, but don't think those pills are gonna last me very long.. this stuff is fucking out of this world
I felt like just after one day of experimentation I already completely understand and know 2C-B intimately and like it's been something my whole life that has been missing. I can easily imagine myself using it every day, it may be my favourite drug of all time if we're not counting dissociatives, but definitely tops every single other psychedelic by a huge margin. There is something so familiar and warm about its effects it's like a psychedelic hug almost that penetrates your body to the core.
Most of the side effects described I had none of including body loads or nausea, only headache after it worn off but this can be attributes to the large amount of MDMA I was taking too. I foolishly ordered 200mg more right as I plugged my last 2cb pill, but don't think those pills are gonna last me very long.. this stuff is fucking out of this world
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versari
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Sure it is, as people have said here just make sure you don't eyeball the dose and have a milligram scale to make sure you have the correct dose. Generally the lower the dose the more mdma-like feelings you'll get and the higher the dose the more LSD-like effects you'll get (visuals etc). Personally id recommend no more than 25mg as a starting dose. Enjoy!
2C-B is one of the most amazing drugs I've ever come across. I'm glad you had a great time with it, I'd advise grabbing a few grams of powder at some point. A couple years ago I grabbed a quarter ounce and I'm still working through it.
chris_p
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Knowing me I would get too fucked up on something or the other and try scooping a big handful into my mouth.. I prefer to buy only in quantities that cannot physically endanger me
Travis_Bickle
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I made sure to scoop up a couple grams of HCL powder last year. Hopefully it lasts me through the end of this year.
Yes it’s worth it, but if you have the opportunity to mix, why not?
One of my most intense drug experiences was a solid dose of 5-mapb(can’t remember…120?150?) about .5 g ketamine throughout, and 20ish mg 2cb.
This was the only time I’ve seen a lizard person lol
One of my most intense drug experiences was a solid dose of 5-mapb(can’t remember…120?150?) about .5 g ketamine throughout, and 20ish mg 2cb.
This was the only time I’ve seen a lizard person lol
An amount of 3-HO-PCP that is inadvisable and well above what's killed people (45mg) as well as ~1mg of acid (half was dropped in my eyes) and 75mg of allylescaline led to my image in the mirror being exactly that of a reptilian, it was pretty neat.
I went through 5 grams one summer taking ridiculous doses and redoses. I think it has more potential for abuse than most psychedelics if you're wired that way.
The way people refer to ketamine as "psychedelic cocaine" I view as goofy, 2C-B fits that definition much better. @Felidaez and I used to just eyeball these small mountains we'd pour out on our dedicated "insufflation tray" (a glass butter dish dedicated to the good cause of sniffing shit) and at a certain point, we were able to use 2C-B numerous times a day, daily, for numerous weeks at a time. The real reason I took breaks was because I'd used an NBOMe, LSD, or something else that created a tolerance that would weaken the 2C-B so it would feel wasteful.
Psychedelics without meaningful tolerance formation are certainly more abusable, but the toxicity and withdrawals make even cannabis look risky when compared to 2C-B, DMT, DPT, Salvia divinorum, and Allylescaline. I've never heard of people mentioning Allylescaline's lack of a tolerance, but @Felidaez and I experience no tolerance, and I've not administered it day-after-day to anybody else.
perpetualdawn
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I think on this forum in particular (and likely other venues for psychedelic nerdery) you can see some "2C-B backlash".
In the wild, a lot of people love 2C-B, in contrast to many of the psychedeclic geeks who post on forums like this finding it underwhelming or unimpressive (myself included). These kinds of folks are of course over-represented on forums as the thin minority who write reports and opine.
I think part of this is a backlash in response to all the hype over 2C-B in the wild, it raises high expectations, and when you compare it to some of the other chemicals we have had the privilege to experience, it can seem less outstanding than the hype on the ground indicates.
To me, 2C-B is definitely worth trying. My criticism is that I find it to be "too much of not enough" if that makes any sense. It's simultaneously underwhelming and overly potent at stronger doses. Like, you can be tripping hard but it doesn't amount to much.
I've taken it 3 times that I can remember, likely more, fwiw.
The fact that the Shulgins regarded it so highly says a lot and it's worth checking, we're all different
chris_p
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Got another 100mg today and more molly to use tonight. I can definitely see the insanely addictive potential in this. I'm not the greatest fan of mental trippery when it comes to psychedelics and I prefer more visceral physical effects so this stuff is right up my alley. Assuming it's safe to use often, very glad I made the decision to try some
2C-B is equally as mentally intense as something like LSD, mescaline or psilocybin but you need to push it over 70mg intranasally which is tough to do. Orally for an equivalent it'd be ~100-125mg. This is the point of vomiting, passing out and having a series of DMT-like breakthroughs essentially. At lower doses, it feels a lot more like a hollow shell of a psychedelic.
How often have you been using MDMA?