What happens when you die? 🤔 Vote here!

[fairnymph]

Try shitloads of weed followed by absolutely no weed.

I despise weed.

 

[paltatomate]

Try shitloads of weed followed by absolutely no weed.

the first would probably leave me dreamless, much like alcohol.
the second, no idea because i would never try the first one.

I am eager to read what you think goes on, feel free to post up what you think happens.
I will read it I promise you that much, people think my ideas I learned from the Navnath tradition of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj are odd, I feel I may be in good company here.

you made me curious, so i looked it up.
not done reading yet, but i haven't forgotten about this thread and your challenge to post more details about my ideas about the topic.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

I despise weed.

Then this technique is not for you.

the first would probably leave me dreamless

That's basically what happens, and then when you discontinue use you have a super dreamy rebound.

I can't remember where I heard this so pinch of salt but apparently your brain keeps track of how much REM sleep you're missing and tries to catch up after being suppressed. So, extended periods of time using cannabis=little or no REM sleep followed by sudden abstinence=more REM sleep than normal and with it longer and more vivid dreams.

For the first three months of 2022 I took an exended tolerance break and for the first few weeks of that was having absolutely bizarre dreams with a fair degree of recall on waking.

I was also using a sleep tracker during this time and one other thing I noticed was that whenever I took 2cb the app would report 2-3x more REM sleep than usual. I can't remember if this also coincided with more intense dreams, but I think it did.

 

[paltatomate]

For the first three months of 2022 I took an exended tolerance break and for the first few weeks of that was having absolutely bizarre dreams with a fair degree of recall on waking.

Were you also able to direct your dreams? Or were you aware that you were dreaming?

Because I have dreams I can recall when I wake up but that we're like watching a movie. While I also have dreams we're I can make decisions or turn things around when I don't like where they are going.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Were you also able to direct your dreams? Or were you aware that you were dreaming?

Sadly not. I don't think I have had an actual lucid dream since my teens. Last I had one I was aware but didn't have control. I don't think I've ever been able to control them and I usually wake up or slide into a new dream pretty quickly after becoming aware.

 

[foodcrisis]

Humans clinging on to memory as a proof of their temporary existence makes zero sense to me honestly. It's like the 'if a tree fell in a forest and nobody heard it did it really happen' kind of thing, and the answer is of course it did. Your brain just does not hold the memory of the occurrence. Reality happened before you were born and you were there because you are literally reality itself. Very difficult concept to grasp to beings who only understand from the perspective of material self and the illusion of separation from reality and the idea that there is an "i" or some kind of spirit that has to move on somewhere. Think of it like sticking the brains of two people together. Who's the "i" in this situation? We're don't have the mental hardware to understand this.

pretty sure all our memories are apart of all consciousness and when we die just turn into one collective consciousness that everyone can experience through dreaming.

i've come to this conclusion cause some of my schizophrenic auditory hallucinations are so real that i can't believe it's my mind. like sometimes i'll hear people singing along to songs that aren't there and i just have to assume that it's someone that has sung along to the song some where else in the history of the universe.. if i had to guess too i'd say all the music and art we have keeps getting made through out the universe when planets with humans and atmospheres like earth form in other galaxies. right now we can supposedly see a bunch of planets that are forming very similar to earth. i have to assume a lot of the same stuff is going to happen from different planets... i guess i really don't know though.

like i've definitely heard people say dreaming is what people experience in different realities, but something a lot of people don't consider "how can i fly" or whatever random shit that people regularly can't do.. it's simple, they are experiencing a movie or video game like simulation that someone in another place has made... through out our life and when we die, everything we see is turned into one thing that can be anything... i have a feeling that when people die, they just loose the ability to connect with this everything consciousness and are no more or apart of the entire consciousness and can't really think anymore... i mean, maybe they have a conscious spirit that goes on. i really don't know. maybe you just dream until you get reincarnated, and by the time you get reincarnated, most people end up dreaming so much or being reincarnated as something like a germ or whatever that they have no idea of their past life as a human... i dunno. just all random shit i've thought of.

 

[paltatomate]

i have a feeling that when people die, they just loose the ability to connect with this everything consciousness and are no more or apart of the entire consciousness and can't really think anymore.

so you are saying that people are connected to some kind of collective while alive, but lose that connection when they die?
that's interesting because a lot of people see it the other way around, that while alive we are disconnected from the universe/collective and only when we die we become part of it.

i will def consider this thought into the post i'm preparing for this thread (am i really writing this?)

 

[foodcrisis]

^^^^i think the brain might be like a tuner or reciever on a radio or T.V... anyone can pretty much tune into anything, so to me i feel like dreams or auditory hallucinations i have don't really mean anything to me. it could just be someone wanted to prank me in another part of the universe or history, so they made some weird video that would pertain to a person's like my reality but not be something i wanted, like someone in another universe made movies that turn out to be my bad dreams... i dunno. obviously i don't have any proof of this. i just think it could be possible. i got most of these ideas cause of people saying stuff like "everything is one" or talkng about the multiverse and trying to figure out how that stuff could be.

 

[JackARoe]

I think death is just being. No more doing. It is the doing that kills us. The body is the issue. Music is astral so we get examples. And I think our spirits oscillate 1000 times a minute between physical and astral.

Honestly, I think for the mature spirits they get total freedom. Can look into any life or situation at any time in history. Total freedom. Can tune into anything. Any other life and situation. And get to help the struggling ones. But no one gets that power without humbleness. It goes to people who want to help and not hinder. That to me is the Natural Law. I think everything is recorded and accessible to the totally free. You won't need a smart phone.

But hey, I am high, just smoked some Gelato A. Last week I said you just die. lol

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

You stop existing. Just like you didn't exist before you were born/conceived.
I think everybody knows that deep don't but people willfully delude themselves with an "afterlife" due to either being too arrogant to accept they aren't that important and will cease to be one day and be forgotten or because they find the idea that they'll just be gone too scary (which is very understandable).

 

[JackARoe]

You stop existing. Just like you didn't exist before you were born/conceived.
I think everybody knows that deep don't but people willfully delude themselves with an "afterlife" due to either being too arrogant to accept they aren't that important and will cease to be one day and be forgotten or because they find the idea that they'll just be gone too scary (which is very understandable).

Like Mark Twain said I am going back to the place that I was before I was born and it was not a problem then. (I may have posted that so sorry I did already)

Actually I always thought the people that said you just die are deluding themselves. Takes out some responsibility to life when we know deep down we owe it some effort. Same concept just turned around. But if it was just nothing then we love that too. We go to sleep looking forward to that. Like a heroin nod, in and out of nothingness. It is all good. A win/win. That is more comforting than an afterlife. Who the fuck wants more of this? But there are things we long for and search through life and retain the wisdom. So it gathers info and then adds to it in the next generation. That seems like a purpose to me. We grow and learn at least. (then like in the movies BAM a bullet to the head and dead) How many times a day do we see someone die on TV?

But I know deep down there is way more to consciousness and life. So I just mind my P's and Q's, not stir up shit or create muddy tracks and will welcome death when it comes. Hallelujah!

 

[MightWontCan]

Well we're life forms so the consciousness ceases and our bodies decay. After our consciousness ceases our brain might work for a few minutes after we're gone in a dream like way but it's like the ultimate sleep that switches the brain off fully, unlike daily sleep. Meet you guys there sounds pretty peaceful right?

 

[Asclepius]

Depends on the condition but with most deaths the lungs fill-up with fluid, so you struggle to breathe; airways are near completely restricted - huge pressure is put in the heart (and all organs) Body systems go into shock(and all the processes those entail). It's horrific & painful - hence the administration of opiates. To quell the pain that comes with systemic biological trauma.


That's death.

We'll all go through it.
What happens before or, after is unknown - but the process of dying is intensely, difficult.

So appreciate what you have, respect those aging, make the most of your life.

 

[paltatomate]

Depends on the condition but with most deaths the lungs fill-up with fluid, so you struggle to breathe; airways are near completely restricted - huge pressure is put in the heart (and all organs) Body systems go into shock. It's horrific & painful - hence the administration of opiates. To quell the pain that comes with systemic biological trauma.


That's death.

We'll all go through it.
What happens before or, after is unknown - but the process of dying is intensely, difficult.

What happens before we know.
It's life.
Now I never fully believed in the phrase "x dies peacefully in their sleep" because how can people know?
I guess dying can be just like galling asleep.
But falling asleep can be an unpleasant experience (at least it's for me sometimes)

 

[vision conquest]

I believe when we die we simply go to sleep, no consciousness, no thought whatsoever, and our bodies return to the dust from which they originally formed.
If someone was to die and be left out in a field to decompose, eventually their body would literally become part of the soil/earth.

After the death of the body our spirit returns to the creator who gave it, the true God who is responsible for all life and all that exists.

Ecclesiastes 12:7
Then the dust will return to the earth, and the spirit will return to the true God who gave it.


Then when it is our time the true God will resurrect us and give our spirit back.
The Bible speaks of two resurrections, those who rise in the first resurrection will go straight into their immortal spirit form.

Others will be resurrected in fleshly bodies, however it is the destiny of all those created in the image of the creator to leave the flesh behind and all will have immortal spirit form in due time.
Revelation 20:4-5
And they lived and reigned with Christ for 1000 years,[those who rise in the first resurrection],but the rest of the dead did not live again until the 1000 years had ended.

 

[Asclepius]

Really, every systemic physiological thing you took as arbitrary in life, turns, shuts down, breaks down & causes you more pain than you could ever imagine (luckily, if you haven't exhausted resources, endogenous chemicals mitigate that pain somewhat to "shut down" the biological systems- but it's probably the ultimate trauma anyone will experience) for sure is/will be the most extreme experience (no point in sugar coating)- no one talks about it, as everyone is so obsessed with bullshit of everyday nonsense but WE should be - we take for granted that it will happen to all of us...every single one.

 

[JackARoe]

Depends on the condition but with most deaths the lungs fill-up with fluid, so you struggle to breathe; airways are near completely restricted - huge pressure is put in the heart (and all organs) Body systems go into shock(and all the processes those entail). It's horrific & painful - hence the administration of opiates. To quell the pain that comes with systemic biological trauma.

Yeah watched my mother die of metastasize cancer last fall. Two months of this decay. However, as these organs are shutting down she was having conversations on another level. Looks like delirium or morphine dribble, I know morphine dribble, but there was very distinct things being said in a direct fashion that was not dribble. So she was tuned into something at times. The death rattle only happens with a very relaxed body. Yet we watched my mother look like she was drowning. Yeah morphine and lorazepam by the buckets. She fought it, ever watch anyone fight death? Not fun. Other go very easy.

Currently watching my dad go from heart failure at 91. He says no pain, just always sleep.

But listen MF'ers all this talk of you just die is just comfort to you all. I say be wise, you live right! Live the Golden Rule and retain virtue. In the end that is worth more than gold or even life. There is work to be done. Row row row your boat gently down the stream....

 

[Asclepius]

A really hard thing, my friend - know it. You mind yourself through this my friend - it's heartbreaking but you can be there for them, that's what you do(that's all that matters). Love, my brother

 

[vision conquest]

Perhaps this thread would be better titled, what happens after you die, this is certainly what I was giving my opinion about.
The biological processes that occur for some, obviously, can be terrible, then others simply slip away quietly in their sleep.

I am very sorry that some have to watch their loved ones endure so much pain at the end.

 

[lolis my thesis]

My 92 year old uncle is in hospital in Arizona
He started getting fluid in his lungs
then a series of mini-strokes has landed him in the hospital and the
strokes have taken his vision temporarily or maybe not who knows
ironic because my mom lost her vision in one eye when in her forties, now her brother's got it in both eyes
Healthy as a horse, hard worker, long liver, I hope he pulls thru nevertheless because people living love him
He won't suffer when he goes I believe that