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I’ve definitely experienced plenty of blissful and ecstatic states through meditation, dissociatives/psychs and lucid dreaming….its all just too much; I’ve realized I prefer the black void that is non REM sleep or a benzo sleep to any conscious state. So death seems like the ultimate escape and high for me.


It’s just a conclusion I’ve reached after experiencing so many different states of consciousness; even besides drugs….even in sleep I prefer the unconscious sleep over dream sleep.
You love non-REM sleep, they measured my sleep and it was screwed.
Lack of fase for non REM and too short duration of REM ?
Have to check my medical file for that. And signs of Apnoe wrong spelled .

My only meant successful meditation wasn t ecstatic while.
How could it. Mere consciousness has no state, i was observer at best.
coming out you could label it. But un-wordly/ experience would fit better.

My dreams became lucid as result of a couple of seizures and being
prescribed Levetiracetam which causes lucid dreaming/ nightmares
[and insomnia] .Side effect.

The dreams seemed to help mentally heal quicker
once while dreaming i became aware that it was a dream
and directing it, playing, even fucking with it.

No therapy imo, can beat the natural healing that took
place.

Sleeping is called the small Death in France, 'Le Petit Mort'.
 
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You love non-REM sleep, they measured my sleep and it was screwed.
Lack of fase for non REM and too short duration of REM ?
Have to check my medical file for that. And signs of Apnoe wrong spelled .

My only meant successful meditation wasn t ecstatic while.
How could it. Mere consciousness has no state, i was observer at best.
coming out you could label it. But un-wordly/ experience would fit better.

My dreams became lucid as result of a couple of seizures and being
prescribed Levetiracetam which causes lucid dreaming/ nightmares
[and insomnia] .Side effect.

The dreams seemed to help mentally heal quicker
once while dreaming i became aware that it was a dream
and directing it, playing, even fucking with it.

No therapy imo, can beat the natural healing that took
place.

Sleeping is called the small Death in France, 'Le Petit Mort'.

Man I love ❤️ sleep. The action of laying down and going unconscious- chefs kiss.

That’s cool you can get lucid automatically. It takes me a lot of work. Usually drugs ruined my ability to lucid dream but when I get sober I always try to have then again.

This extended into my drug preferences - i love drugs that let me just fall asleep effortlessly at any time tired or not, i.e, benzos and opioids
 
Man I love ❤️ sleep. The action of laying down and going unconscious- chefs kiss.

That’s cool you can get lucid automatically. It takes me a lot of work. Usually drugs ruined my ability to lucid dream but when I get sober I always try to have then again.

This extended into my drug preferences - i love drugs that let me just fall asleep effortlessly at any time tired or not, i.e, benzos and opioids
The lucid dreaming that started as result of sleep deprivation, and the result.
3/ 5 seizures in combo with Levetiracetam, Its known for these effects:
un-abilty to sleep, suicidal idealisation. So be warned its not a harmless one.
The dr s didn t warn me, so a little warning, just as good example ;)

But it also promote s nightmares and lucid dreaming which was cool,
not something i could do deliberate now. After being on Valproic Acid and,
Especially after the DETOX where by luck a few doses Diazepam
restored my sleep architecture. The ability was gone.

But sleeping was so good after 2.5 year trouble. :heart6: it too. Sleep.
The kiss of Morpheus ?
 
My dreams became lucid as result of a couple of seizures and being
prescribed Levetiracetam which causes lucid dreaming/ nightmares
[and insomnia] .Side effect.

The dreams seemed to help mentally heal quicker
once while dreaming i became aware that it was a dream
and directing it, playing, even fucking with it.

No therapy imo, can beat the natural healing that took place.
Yes, lucid dreaming can be a powerful tool for not only healing mental ailments like phobias, but even physical ailments too. Here, in this podcast, Robert Waggoner reports here of his student's lucid dreaming experiences. One woman managed to conquer her fear of death by summoning the specter of death itself and embracing it.
 
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Lucid dreaming is so cool.
Happens to me often, and I wake up energized and motivated. Like after having had an exciting experience.
 
I used to have a lot of lucid dreams. They mostly went away when I started smoking weed every day. I used to get deep sleep paralysis a lot too. They both come back whenever I take a tolerance break. Something to do with REM sleep I think.
 
I used to have a lot of lucid dreams. They mostly went away when I started smoking weed every day. I used to get deep sleep paralysis a lot too. They both come back whenever I take a tolerance break. Something to do with REM sleep I think.
Cannabis definitely interferes with REM, and also I think as a result the emotional processing of the days events - I think caffeine has the same effect as well, I'm sure I saw a study that connected caffeine to less emotional intelligence.
Lucid dreaming is so cool.
Happens to me often, and I wake up energized and motivated. Like after having had an exciting experience.
I honestly don't think I'd still be alive if I hadn't had some of the lucid dreams, astral projections etc when I was younger. It gave me something to look forward to, because I always felt like I was growing a neglected part of myself in those experiences in a way that modern life does not cater for at all. They are as important to me as my NN-DMT experiences, and I'm always amazed when people tell me they don't dream.. if you haven't had any, you've missed out on a massive, free, part of human existence in my opinion.
 
We become one with the universe that we are already one with.

Nothing changes. There's nowhere to go.

That said... having been present for multiple deaths, it does seem like the person who died "leaves." There's a strong energetic feeling of bliss followed by departure. So I don't have all the answers.
 
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We become one with the universe (that we are already one with).
so, nothing changes? I remember reading quite a clever piece from some kinda physicist years ago that argued that assertion pretty damn well

All I really know on the topic is, that when we die, we piss and shit ourselves
 
so, nothing changes? I remember reading quite a clever piece from some kinda physicist years ago that argued that assertion pretty damn well

All I really know on the topic is, that when we die, we piss and shit ourselves

It's mind that creates the multitudes. Personality, ego, qualities, constructs.

If there's no mind there's no separation.

Change only exists in the realm of experience, and experience is mind. Core reality, core consciousness, is unchanged from apparent birth to apparent death.

Falling asleep at night and then waking up the next day gives you a sample of this.

There's nobody "in here" doing anything. Just the appearance of a person. An ephemeral appearance that comes and goes even while the body is alive.
 
Cannabis definitely interferes with REM, and also I think as a result the emotional processing of the days events - I think caffeine has the same effect as well, I'm sure I saw a study that connected caffeine to less emotional intelligence.

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Thank you that is an interesting observation. Emotional intelligence presence mixed in with a NPD is a difficult one to distinguish which is the cause ?

One could be working with the other. Possibly together.

I do know a lot of Mormons who do not do mind altering substances or hard core mind altering substances at all including Sugar. With exceptions of making sweets for

Christmas and using them as gifts.

However, I don't see how they do it. But they do. And they drink herbal tea and serve energizing food like lemon water and lot's of homegrown veggies and fish.

Yes a lot of my neighbors have fish ponds and tanks and raise their own fish. I know so many Mormons and my neighbors that are also.

No substance abuse at all and they are highly functional. They don't seem to be narcissistic either or psychopathic.

Just productive and love for the Father of the Heaven above.

Weird. But I'm still looking. They won't even drink a soda most of the time .... unless they are tricked. Like here have some lunch with a drink then they drink it sometimes but

they mostly like to stick to water. Bless their souls.


So I am focused on the caffeine concept now as well. 🙂

Thank you.

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I am not too familiar with d death but I do keep saying YOLO
because that is how I feel.


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Amen if I get to go to a nice place, right. :rolleyes:🙏🕊️
 
So I figured this was a pretty unique question and I doubt anyone has ever talked about it but... what do you think happens when we die?

This is your best guess, none of us "know" for sure.

If I forgot anything, please let me know and feel free to discuss in the comments down below!
Define what you mean by "We become one with the universe." please
 
Please understand as truth, that you are not an individual, a 'person'. The person, that one thinks one is, is only a product of imagination and the self is the victim of this illusion. 'Person' cannot exist in its own right. It is the self, consciousness, that mistakenly believes that there is a person and is conscious of being it. Change your viewpoint. Don't look at the world as something outside of yourself. See the person you imagine yourself to be as a part of the world—really a dream world— which you perceive as an appearance in your consciousness, and look at the whole show from the outside. Remember, you are not the mind, which is nothing but the content of consciousness. As long as you identify yourself with the body you are vulnerable to sorrow and suffering. Outside the mind, there is just being, not being a father or son, this or that. You are beyond time and space, in contact with them only at the point of now and here, but otherwise timeless, spaceless and invulnerable to any experience. Understand this and grieve no more. Once you realize that there is nothing in this world that you can or need to call your own, you will look at it from the outside, as you look at a play on the stage or a movie on the screen, admiring and enjoying, perhaps suffering, but deep down, quite unmoved.

Everyone has to die; so die as your true nature. Why die as a body? Never forget your true nature. It may not be acceptable to many, but it is a fact... this body has nothing to do with you. If you must have an ambition have the highest, so that at least while dying, you will be the Absolute. Decide that now firmly, with certainty and conviction. Giving up the body is a great festival. Death is generally considered to be a traumatic experience, but understand what happens. That which has been born, the knowledge 'I am' which is the same everywhere, but which has gotten itself limited by the body, again becomes unlimited. A speck of consciousness is given up. Why the fear? How has this fear of death crept in? That which cannot die somehow became convinced that it was going to die. It is based on the concept that one is an individual who is born... all the fear arises from mere words told to you by someone. This is the bondage. It is like someone gives you a drink and then tells you, "I have put poison in that drink, and in six months you will die.? Immediately you become very frightened because you think that you will die. But then you meet a friend and he tells you not to worry. He says, "Here, drink this and there will be no death for you. First there is one concept which fills you full of fright, and then there is another concept which negates the first concept. Like this you get involved with the flow of maya and there are concepts, ideas, creations... pain alternates with pleasure... but all of it is just ignorance and misery. It is only when you search for your Self that you become aware that it is all a fraud. Be still in your beingness. Then even it will disappear and you will merge in Truth. All that needs to be done is to find out your real source and take up headquarters there. From the Absolute standpoint, your beingness is only ignorance. Nothing comes and nothing goes; it is a mirage. All there is is the Absolute, all there is is the Truth. The witness of the consciousness never comes into the realm of the consciousness. When you pursue this spiritual path of understanding the Self, all your desires just drop off... even the primary desire... to be. When you stay put in the beingness for some time, that drops off. Then you are in the Absolute... there is no movement for you. You are minding the show. Consciousness extinguishes itself, knowingness disappears, and you, the Absolute remains. That is the moment of death.

Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj.
 
Voted "other", but...

Where do I begin?
I am eager to read what you think goes on, feel free to post up what you think happens.
I will read it I promise you that much, people think my ideas I learned from the Navnath tradition of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj are odd, I feel I may be in good company here.
 
am eager to read what you think goes on, feel free to post up what you think happens.
I will read it I promise you that much, people think my ideas I learned from the Navnath tradition of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj are odd, I feel I may be in good company here.
I will give it a try, promised.
If only to figure it out a little better for myself.
 
I wish I could lucid dream. Maybe I just need to try some new techniques.
If you tell yourself you can't, you won't. Conversely holding on to the desire for it and faith it will occur, it will occur - this intention and faith is best done without strain; not a pushing toward but a receptiveness to the potential.
 
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