Miscellaneous (In my subjective opinion) Mushrooms are waaaay better than LSD

[crazyhairman]

Who cares about colors when you are literally flying into the cosmos with the hopes and fears of all of humanity caressingly inside of you.

 

[crazyhairman]

Thousands of trips of shrooms is one good LSD tab.

I can certainly appreciate both at different stages in my life. For me personally it's acid. LSD is like coming home a holding the ones you love. There's nothing else like it.

Mushrooms are a fun night out with the boys. It's goofy sometimes scary, always gassy too. Sometimes, depending on dose , strain or environment you might have 20 different trips.

I understand not everyone has access to a large consistent amount of LSD. 800ug and up absolutely changed my entire outlook on everything. You will have the same inner peace everyday the rest of your life.

I can't even imagine what my life would be if I didn't have the history I do with psychedelics. The ability to feel, think, and breath. How lucky are we, really

 

[unodelacosa]

Who cares about colors when you are literally flying into the cosmos with the hopes and fears of all of humanity caressingly inside of you.

The aesthete, that's who, lol.

Also, "literally" and "caressingly"? Come on now. You can write better than this.

You will have the same inner peace everyday the rest of your life.

To whom do you refer? Make no mistake: LSD is not for everyone.

Interesting that you say mushrooms are a fun night out with the boys. I think the opposite. Shrooms are too goddamn serious for my tastes most times. But of course that's just how I personally respond. There are no wrong answers here.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

Mushrooms are amazing, LSD is amazing.

Anyone who thinks LSD isn't amazing, try a genuine 250ug in a great set/setting and come back to me

Anyone who thinks shrooms aren't amazing, try 6 or 7g in a great set/setting and come back to me

 

[unodelacosa]

Hi everyone! I would like to offer my personal view on this topic since I am a huge fan of psychedelics for both therapeutic and recreational purposes. Most people here seem to prefer LSD, and I believe the reason is because they are comparing it against p. Cubensis. There are many species of mushrooms and cubensis is arguably the very worst of them (and yes penis envy is still a cubensis). Cubensis is blurry, sometimes sinister, confusing and overall very prone to mindfucks. That is not to say you can't have a fun and spiritual trip full of love on cubensis. But overall, LSD tends to be more light and sharp.

Could not agree more.

If you start growing your own mushrooms you will find some species are significantly better than LSD by a long, fat margin. Most notably, p. Subtropicalis (aka semperviva). Compared to LSD, semperviva goes way deeper, has that "journey/adventure" feeling like no other substance, is the most interactive mushroom I have ever tried (as in you feel the mushroom presence and it communicates loud and clear with you) and even though it has taken me further than anything else I have ever taken, it feels like it always takes you by the hand so you never feel scared. There are many other interesting species. Overall, I feel LSD trips are fun and enlightening but it lacks that journey like feeling as well as this "presence" of mushrooms.
If I were to rank my psychedelic experiences based on personal growth/ clarity/ spirituality/ recreational value it would be Semperviva > p.natalensis = changa > pan. Cyanescens > p. Tampanensis (fruit) > LSD > p. cubensis

That's fascinating actually.

Now you might think "thats all great but how do I get a hold of these exotic mushrooms?". Both Semperviva and p. Natalensis can be just as easy to grow as p. Cubensis. It will be an amazing journey for yourself and it will be an incredibly rewarding experience to immerse yourself in your own grown fruits.

Yeah, but good luck growing those Panaeolus cyanescens and similarly good luck growing the potent Psilocybe azurescens…

 

[unodelacosa]

I'll make whatever comparison I feel like, got it shit dick?

Ruh-roh! Badass over here!

You got that butt-hurt about my comments? Wow.

And btw, I'll make whatever comments I want on your comparisons including trashing them for being poorly thought out. Don't like it? Don't read it. Simple. Free speech is a motherfucker, isn't it? Name-calling, though? Poor form. I was only saying your point made no sense. How can you criticize the effects of LSD when you say that most people aren't actually taking LSD but rather RC imposters?… If this were true, you would be criticizing a different drug and invalidating your opinion about LSD in the process. Think about it.

Look, it doesn't matter. These are just opinions. Your opinions are that shrooms are better than NBOMe and LSD, I guess, and people who say otherwise are half-wits. Mine are that you are impulsive, read into something the wrong way and awkwardly lashed out in mistaken response. I also think that LSD is a better drug than shrooms, personally, ah! but you got me there – I suppose I am a half-wit after all. See? So we agree on something. Res ipsa loquitur. Can we let bygones be bygones here?

 

[gwgw]

It's weird to see people arguing that much about it. If I were to post this like 2 years ago, I would definitely be on the shrooms side in such an argument as I was in a point in my life where mushrooms turned out to be very helpful to me, it was a hard period in my life and a lot of it was due to me being myself at that time and I really had some things to correct. Shrooms were a hard kick and reset and I am very thankful for that, if it were for L, it just doesn't have that depth for me and it would take much more time (probably won't work in the end). But shrooms are also unforgiving and sometimes very nasty. Some trips were all about "you are stupid and dumb, you are a big failure". Others were about me dying. I actually experienced myself dying at least several times on shrooms. Wasn't scary or awful, but wasn't also funny. I really respect shrooms for what they are able to do. But they are not recreational, more like therapeutic. I guess that's because it has high affinity towards 2HT-A and very low towards dopamine receptors, but I might be wrong about that. It has its uses for me and I don't regret any of my trips, even the unpleasant ones that made me cry and hate myself for being what I am. LSD on the other hand is a super fun experience. It is much much more hedonistic and just about having fun, no serious stuff. I've had some tough experiences on L, yes, but they were more about "it's overwhelming, I want to go home and lay on my bed", rather than "I am a fucking failure" or "this is how I die".

That said, even though I've had a lot of shrooms experiences (I really kind of abused it at some point), they were all cubensis ones. Different cubes yes, but still cubensis. Never tried others. My first psychedelic experience was 2C-I years ago, then my first classic psychedelic experience was with LSD, not with shrooms. I find shrooms and L very very different, they serve different purposes. I don't think they are similar at all.

 

[ions]

Shrooms-develop your shadow
LSD-develops logic.

 

[MuertaMan]

Ruh-roh! Badass over here!

You got that butt-hurt about my comments? Wow.

And btw, I'll make whatever comments I want on your comparisons including trashing them for being poorly thought out. Don't like it? Don't read it. Simple. Free speech is a motherfucker, isn't it? Name-calling, though? Poor form. I was only saying your point made no sense. How can you criticize the effects of LSD when you say that most people aren't actually taking LSD but rather RC imposters?… If this were true, you would be criticizing a different drug and invalidating your opinion about LSD in the process. Think about it.

Look, it doesn't matter. These are just opinions. Your opinions are that shrooms are better than NBOMe and LSD, I guess, and people who say otherwise are half-wits. Mine are that you are impulsive, read into something the wrong way and awkwardly lashed out in mistaken response. I also think that LSD is a better drug than shrooms, personally, ah! but you got me there – I suppose I am a half-wit after all. See? So we agree on something. Res ipsa loquitur. Can we let bygones be bygones here?

not butthurt youre just an idiot to act like Im trying to "personify" mushrooms and who are you to tell me what to post? Shrooms are better Im not even gonna say its an opinion they just are, Im guessing the main reason people like acid more is because all they give a shit about is visuals "woaaaaaah bro like shits melting colors maaaaaaaaaan" instead of actually trying to get something out of the experience. Oh and I bet its highly likely all your shit is bitter spitters made by some loser laying DOx or similar compounds to blotter. But you probably get the best shit though right, you're "that guy". "Its straight up sandoz bro". THere is literally no downside to mushrooms except you might get spooked for a bit but you feel amazing when they wear off and for days afterwards. Acid makes you feel like a braindead retard when you comedown and wishing you didn't have endure the shit feeling youre gonna be stuck with for 24 hours or more. Take whatever drugs you like I don't give a shit but you come in here like youre the arbiter of what someone of course Im gonna say something back retard

 

[unodelacosa]

not butthurt

Yes you are… little sensitivo over here. Watch how butt-hurt you sound… ready?

youre just an idiot

See? Back to childish name-calling. Such poor emotional control. Get a grip, nephew, before you burst the blood vessels in your eyes & shit. Just calm your ass the fuck down.

to act like Im trying to "personify" mushrooms

No, pay attention – you've been wrong as a motherfucker about so much that I can't keep doing this unless you're gonna start reading. You were personifying acid, not mushrooms. Get it right.

and who are you to tell me what to post?

Tu tio Junot. Again: post whatever you want. Just know: if it's as dumb as this conversation is getting, I'm going to shit all over it until I'm bored and then I'm going to move on until more garbage comes vomiting out of you on here and I'll split that shit's wig, too and on & on, ad nauseum, ad infinitum, QED, &c., &c.

Shrooms are better Im not even gonna say its an opinion they just are, Im guessing the main reason people like acid more is because all they give a shit about is visuals "woaaaaaah bro like shits melting colors maaaaaaaaaan" instead of actually trying to get something out of the experience.

Amazing. That is some powerful cringe. I'm almost impressed. Almost. Actually, no, it's disappointing. You sound so much smarter in some of your other posts. I tried to make peace, but you're hellbent in being shitty to me. So…

Oh and I bet its highly likely all your shit is bitter spitters made by some loser laying DOx or similar compounds to blotter.

Hahaha! "Your shit is bitter spitters" ☜ that's hilarious. I'm not even kidding: how old are you? It's interesting to read what you consider to be put downs, and the particular topics you think will insult me based on this ridiculous stereotype you've applied to me.

When I read lines like "woaaah bro" I hear them in Dave Chapelle's "stereotypical white guy voice" in my head, lol.

Keep going, Champ Champ, you got me all figured out…

But you probably get the best shit though right, you're "that guy". "Its straight up sandoz bro".

What era are you in? Do people actually still claim they have Sandoz Laboratories acid?

THere is literally no downside to mushrooms except I might get spooked for a bit but I feel amazing when they wear off and for days afterwards. Acid makes me feel like a braindead retard when I comedown and wishing I didn't have endure the shit feeling I'm gonna be stuck with for 24 hours or more.

I fixed that for you. Learn to speak for yourself. Also, it sounds like you've never had real acid at all. That's a shame.

Take whatever drugs you like I don't give a shit

Thanks, nephew! I didn't need your permission but glad to know you're onboard.

but you come in here like youre the arbiter of what someone

I think you accidentally a word. I also think you have some kind of weird chip on your shoulder, or maybe it's a giant purple dick in your ass. You should remove the dick from your ass so shit can stop overflowing out of your mouth when you speak on here. Ok? Thanks, pal. This has been fun. Peace out.

Here, you should have the last word:

of course Im gonna say something back retard

 

[Cheshire_Kat]

Let's all get back to discussing the subject and stop name calling @MuertaMan

Psychedelic Drugs is a core sub forum at Bluelight and that kind of post is not what we do here. You can make your point without resorting to that kind of post.


ON TOPIC:

I'm one of those who prefer LSD over mushrooms. It's a personal choice, there is no correct answer.

 

[ions]

Just enough LSD to get through the day and be able to sleep at night.
Almost lost the cut up tab. That would be a waste.

 

[Cheshire_Kat]

Just enough LSD to get through the day and be able to sleep at night.
Almost lost the cut up tab. That would be a waste.

Once I dropped about twenty window pane hits on the "pebbled" sidewalk outside a Mc Donalds. I think I found maybe 5 of them despite me getting down on my hands and knees and squinting as closely as I possibly could.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

I find acid much more stimulating & recreational.
I actually can get horny some times on acid & love it.
But I've never gotten excited like that on shrooms before.

I get more visuals from acid than I do shrooms for some reason too.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

I honestly love both shrooms and lsd - it's quite hard for me to comprehend that anyone who had experienced a strong a and legit dose of either in the correct environment could say anything else! (Well, anyone into tripping anyway...)

Of course there are different flavours to the experiences. Lsd being more 'upbeat' for me maybe, shrooms being a tab more challenging shall we say. However i've also had genuinely challenging acid trips too (or, more accurately maybe, parts of acid trips) and have had plenty mushroom trips which were the epitome of communal mirthful abandon.

I've also had huge and longlasting antidepresant effects from both.

Have to say though...whenever I have a decent mushroom dose (it's been too damn long but I have 6g liberty caps and 3g penis envy in my stash so it could be on the cards soon)...I always without exception at some point in the trip think "This is my favourite drug in the world"

 

[pupnik]

having two kids, it is important to avoid favorites being a thing.

super memories of every aspect of all of them

 

[odissey]

i have just as much experience with p. ovoideocystidiata as i do with cubies (prolly more), and then i've also had panaeolus cinctulus and panaeolopsis sp., as well as gymnopilus junonius (also amanita spp., but as pointed out that's a different topic entirely).

i find that mushrooms in general are more mindfuckey, serious (not all serious all the time, just mostly), insanity inducing, and ultimately forcefully therapeutic (hold my face to the flames of my personal issues kinda shit); each different species/ genus do have their subtle differences, but i find the differences to be less than the differences that come about from different set + settings. the same drug can sometimes be WILDLY different at different points of my life.

i find acid to be more recreational (although it does have some of all of the above, just more dilute), and more euphoric but also i can handle my shit better on acid than shroomies. i never feel out of control, even if i'm so high that i don't know how a house key works. the therapy is gentler, less THRUST into it like shrooms, more invited.

shroomies can make my mind feel like chaos... sometimes very deeply scary, like on a cosmic level.

general trends i've noticed:

cubies tend to be more on the 'imposter syndrome'- inducing, fearsome side;

ovoids tend to be more along the trickster mindfuckery side of things;

panaeolus cinctulus/ panaeolopsis (not so sure of these, only had them each once or twice, and i mixed them together at least once) seem more jovial, happy-go-lucky, calm.

gyms i've had once, nothing to write home about... it wasn't enough for a +++, and it felt empty, pointless. i wasn't unhappy when it ended (watching fear and loathing actually sucked that night... the movie seemed so superficial/ hollywood- shallow). i'd probably visit them again, but the taste of the red ass tea i made was not pleasant, to say the least (i'd love to find some gymnopilus luteofolius, they're just so beautiful).

and then there are the other lysergamides, i'm not even gonna get into it.

Thanks for your comparison. I have not tried the mushrooms you mentioned, but I can assure you the difference between cubensis and semperviva is not subtle at all. To me they don't even seem like the same substance except for some very general traits. Semperviva is better in every single way except for being much slower and sometimes more tricky to grow.

Just head over to the official semperviva thread on shroomery. So far, I have read dozens and dozens of reports and every single one of them claims this is their new favorite substance. All my grower friends and their groups of testing friends claim the same.

Semperviva is THE magic mushroom.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

I experienced a bit of nausea eating chocolates recently with mushroom powder cooked in was not expecting it since they were prepared!

have you guys tried making tea? i got zero nausea from tea....i don't think i'll consume mushrooms any other way again


now i really wanna try out these semperviva's - thanks for the heads up @odissey

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Semperviva is THE magic mushroom - Trip Reports - Shroomery Message Board

I have posted this on the official semperviva thread but I will post it here as well for easy reference. Hey everyone! It has been a while, but I finally got my life in order so I decided to trip

www.shroomery.org

 

[odissey]

Could not agree more.


That's fascinating actually.


Yeah, but good luck growing those Panaeolus cyanescens and similarly good luck growing the potent Psilocybe azurescens…

Growing pan cyans is not that difficult. And semperviva which are much better than pan cyans (for me, and most people so far it seems) can be just as easy as growing cubensis. You can grow it using coco coir in a shoebox, just like cubensis. You just need to be a bit luckier with your culture selection as some are more picky than others. I have had cultures that grow more aggressively than cubensis, and the trip... Oh boy the trip... Nothing comes close.

Edit: by the way, pan cyans are definitely worth trying for different reasons than semperviva. They are great, fun mushrooms that actually feel closer to LSD and the visuals are extremely sharp. But you need to be very careful with the dose because it scales out of control pretty fast and they will bite you in the ass big time if you are not prepared, while semperviva seems like it is always there for you even if you fuck up and accidentally take too much