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Mental Health Coming off Invega (paliperidone) injections, v 5.0

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Gdvffh said:
Yeah guys so there saying muscarinic receptor agonist are going to be the future of antipsychotics. So this type of suffering may not be continuing forever.
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That’s still going to come with it’s far share of side effects! If you read what the muscarinic receptors are for…blocking them is going to cause side effects. Big time
 
Gdvffh said:
Yeah guys so there saying muscarinic receptor agonist are going to be the future of antipsychotics. So this type of suffering may not be continuing forever.
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Indirectly related to what you said. I'm gonna just say some stuff I think that should be said. Solving mental issue on phyiscal level is similar to fixing something by unnecessary amputation when it could just be resolved with normal talk. This is why AP(antipsyhotic drugs) will never be good for consumer. Wrong idea of something can cause fears and fear can make people a bit more stupid and develop wrong understandings. Idea is very powerful thing and can make people look crazy but they just got through some experience which made them believe in some idea. It is possible to be immune to that by not being "open minded" but rather be based and not just guess stuff and assume it's true. Lot of horrific stuff happened in past because of religions exactly out of that reason. From some statistics I found 90% of so called halucinations are just imagination and pdocs mess that up with real ones. Actual halucinations are not mental issue but rather phyiscal issue or maybe spiritual issue and are very rare and can be learned to cope with - there was a man who did that without any meds. Diet in most cases can fix such problems. From what I heard what people say is learning to cope with that is easier than handling severe side-effects from AP. Pseudo-science is not developed enough to be able to treat such actual halucinations without chemical lobotomy and probably it will never be developed enough if it doesn't become actual science which will probably happen in next 500+ years because brain is too complex to study. It is impossible with current technology and knowledge.

Humans should not be guinea pigs because of some pseudoscience which is just guessing and based on guessing + does more harm then good.
 
HelpMeInvega said:
That’s still going to come with it’s far share of side effects! If you read what the muscarinic receptors are for…blocking them is going to cause side effects. Big time
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An agonist doesn't block the receptors, it does the opposite.
 
I think there might be something to how we get all new cells in our body like every 7 years, that would mean we would get new receptors right, unless the brain damage done by the antipsychotics prevents that, and in that case it really would be damage.
 
HelpMeInvega said:
If that’s your biggest worry then I think you’re doing fine lol
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My biggest worry is to get thrown into the psychiatric system again with forced injections in my new country. When weed starts working again then I know I have recovered
 
OLDTIDEN said:
My biggest worry is to get thrown into the psychiatric system again with forced injections in my new country. When weed starts working again then I know I have recovered
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Mind if I ask why you feel the desire to smoke weed? It may feel good at first but it's pretty well-known to send even healthy people into psychosis if they use too much. That could be as little as a hit. There are probably much safer substances to use.
 
AlphaMethylPhenyl said:
Mind if I ask why you feel the desire to smoke weed? It may feel good at first but it's pretty well-known to send even healthy people into psychosis if they use too much. That could be as little as a hit. There are probably much safer substances to use.
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I used to be a daily pot smoker and I enjoyed the high from it. Now after Xeplion injections pot no longer has any effects on me. I have not tried edibles yet but I dont think I can lay my hands on any around here. I will recover though.

I hope the future will be brighter and better for us
 
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OLDTIDEN said:
I used to be a daily pot smoker and I enjoyed the high from it. Now after Xeplion injections pot no longer has any effects on me. I have not tried edibles yet but I dont think I can lay my hands on any around here. I will recover though.

I hope the future will be brighter and better for us
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If you love smoking weed ..yea smoke it then but ..it cause too much harm to brain also the frequency of the body...can cause anxiety ,social phobia,psyhosis,paranoia etc...just a reminder.
 
Risingson8 said:
If you love smoking weed ..yea smoke it then but ..it cause too much harm to brain also the frequency of the body...can cause anxiety ,social phobia,psyhosis,paranoia etc...just a reminder.
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I am saying it is not working now. Need to recover first.
 
HelpMeInvega said:
That’s still going to come with it’s far share of side effects! If you read what the muscarinic receptors are for…blocking them is going to cause side effects. Big time
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It probably will cause side effects ut im hoping.they wont be bad side effects like the antipsychotics we have now. Like i do get psychosis and antipsychotics do get rid of it. But the problem is tbey cause all these other problems like cognitive problems, lack of emotion and zapping of your energy. If they can create a drug thst gets rid of psychosis and causes no side effects that would be a real game changer. Also, if these new muscarinic drugs are better. Then people will be forced to take these instead of invega so ppl will be suffering way less then we currently are.

So right now we got a drug called karxt which will be out in 2 years. They released a few weeks ago that there gonna apply for new drug application in 2023. So will get approved probably early 2024. Karxt agonizes the m1 to m5 receptors. But they also give another drug with it which antagonizes the m2 m3 and m4 receptors. Its not ideal. But at least its not a serontonim and dopamine antagonizing drug.
Also, there a drug in clinical trials roght now which only agonizes the m4 receptor. Thats the receptor they believe will help with psychosis. That drug wont come out for another 10 years.

The progress is slow, but its good to know we got newer mechanisms of drugs coming out for psychosis. The current meds are shit. And since were forced to take. We should be hoping fot better drugs with less sode effects so in the future ppl dont have to go through this hell were going through.
 
Hey so i was on reddit. And some ppl were praising this supplement called agmatine. They said it cured their anhedonia. Im thinking it might be good for us ppl who are suffering from these antipsychotics. I just ordered a 2 month supply from amazon for 28 bucks canadian. Not too expensive.
 
yoo only slept 4 hours last night

not sure if I've heard a voice for the very first time in my life or I just had a weird-ass dream but I couldn't fall asleep anymore after 3AM

all I know is that I feel like absolute dogshit today, practically the side effects of the injection at month 1 again

makes me believe that sleep quality is strictly linked to recovery speed somehow (at least more than binging on supplements and other drugs) because yesterday I was feeling relatively good (been playing card games, putting my mind into them and even starting to make sense out of complex plays all while having laughs and interesting convos with friends, listening music and feeling something very faint out of it). I hope I get to sleep well tonight because that was like the first thing I noticed that was improving steadily over the last few weeks


All in all I can totally see myself being recovered in the future but at the same time it still feels out of my control so who knows if maybe I'm wrong. I'll take whatever I get at this point
 
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EsseWasGreat said:
yoo only slept 4 hours last night

not sure if I've heard a voice for the very first time in my life or I just had a weird-ass dream but I couldn't fall asleep anymore after 3AM

all I know is that I feel like absolute dogshit today, practically the side effects of the injection at month 1 again

makes me believe that sleep quality is strictly linked to recovery speed somehow because yesterday I was feeling relatively good (been playing card games, putting my mind into them and even starting to make sense out of complex plays all while having laughs and interesting convos with friends, listening music and feeling something very faint out of it). I hope I get to sleep well tonight because that was like the first thing I noticed that was improving steadily over the last few weeks


All in all I can totally see myself being recovered in the future but at the same time it still feels out of my control so who knows if maybe I'm wrong. I'll take whatever I get at this point
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You will recover as long as you stay off the shots. Sleep for me is something I enjoy because I dream every time I sleep.
 
OLDTIDEN said:
Heaven has a greater plan for us than newer meds. We will be compensated for all the forced medications in the future. There are no mental disorders nor psychosis in New Earth
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Yeah idk what you talking about lol. Just hoping the future has better medications so this madness of ppl feeling dumbed down on med, lack of emotion, and no energy will finally go away.

Out of curiosity i right now am doing a job where i work 1 or 2 days a week. Iy goes by seniority and in like 3 years ill be fulltime. Im hoping new meds come around around same time i get fulltime so i can be recovered, living on my own and stuff

What sucks is ive been on and off meds since i was 23. So i feel like i lost a lot of good years being medicated where i should have spend that time hitting on girls ans finding a wife and what not i guess if better meds come out and they make me normal. I will only be 32 so im still young enough to date women. So i guess its not worse thing in the world.

I feel bad for those schizophrenics who had this illness in the 1950s and had these shitty meds. New mechanisms of meds arnt even being made until 70 years later and there still not out.
 
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