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Mental Health Coming Off Vraylar (cariprazine), Rexulti (brexpiprazole), or Abilify (aripiprazole)

Hey guys, so today after a dry fast, i felt pretty good. I had little mood swings and overall i had the feeling of improved consistency towards it.
I slept like shit yesterday, because i broke my 24h dry fast at 2am and my body was scared and stressed, because it was my first dry fast.
My body was constantly signalizing me to drink. I broke my 7 Day fast with Bone broth. Then i waited 2h, and ate eggs with hot dog.
Then i ate a home made chicken sandwich, it was delicious, mostly good quality food. Then i ate a lavash pizza. Then i ate a mozzarella roll.
Pretty much trying to push my calories up so my metabolism gets a boost.
Tomorrow i am going to eat something else, maybe fries wit a cheeseburger, of course home made.
I felt like my old self a little bit more. I am not much craving sex, but i think that is because of the fasting. My neighbor is a little cunt which does not lower the fucking volume of the TV garbage that he is watching at nighttime.
Anyway i'm very lean at the moment, but not shredded yet, which surprised me at my current weight. Shows me more how little muscle mass i have compared to other guys my heigh, like professional football players (soccer).
Did not take St. John's Wort for 2 Days.
Basically it is exactly the same scenario as it was with Invega (please Invega guy do not post your video again at this point!! Thanks).
That means my body will only feel completely normal when i feel normal. And that means my body wants to recover at least 95% before all side effects subside.
Who knows how long that will take. 2 weeks? 3 weeks? Every day i feel, i have a different estimation time. I think the key reference is consistency. Towards not feeling blank for example.
 
So I'm finally in the clear. Unlike some of my jealous comrades. If ever any of you get confused by things that you can't seem to figure out on your own. Try using Google

I hate to break it to you, but this is one hundred percent accurate: This medication isn't going to leave your body within a matter of months and anyone who thinks so is probably just a deluded fool. 1 week of this drug is equivalent to 14 shots of Invega. 30 days is the equivalent of about three times that. Anyone who wants to check my math. Try a better argument next time.
 
iridescentblack said:
So I'm finally in the clear. Unlike some of my jealous comrades. If ever any of you get confused by things that you can't seem to figure out on your own. Try using Google

I hate to break it to you, but this is one hundred percent accurate: This medication isn't going to leave your body within a matter of months and anyone who thinks so is probably just a deluded fool. 1 week of this drug is equivalent to 14 shots of Invega. 30 days is the equivalent of about three times that. Anyone who wants to check my math. Try a better argument next time.
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This is simply not true. Each of those drugs have their own Half Life span. And those Half Life spans do vary from each other.
If you take Vraylar for example, the half life is 3 weeks. The average Time to clear a drug out of the system is 5 Half Life's.

:hear4t:Let's do the Math :


Cariprazine (Vraylar) :
21 Days * 5 = 105 Days.

Paliperidone Injection (Invega Sustena) :
50 Days * 5 = 250 Days (My recovery was about 240 days i think):hear4t:
 
Yesterday was like a breakthrough, For the first time i felt psychotic again. But just for a few moments randomly while being stressed.
Today i was forcing myself to go outside again and i was in the groceries mostly. I was pretty stressed, but i just raised my sea salt intake and felt pretty good.
I also supplement with magnesium and Vitamin D and Zinc.
The thing is, for me it was crystal clear from the very beginning that i will not heal overnight. The rewiring of the brain takes time.
Weeks, maybe even months. I used to be a loner for most of my life.
But i am feeling pretty good at the moment. Specially the day after the dry fast, was unreal.
I was craving salt badly, during my 7 day fast. I didn't even notice.
The belly cramps are mostly gone by now. Brain pressure is mostly gone. Maybe it comes back, but i don't know.
 
Today i woke up for the very first time since 80+ days and felt that i have been actually sleeping the whole night. Before that everything seemed very shallow.
Now i can explain it in a better way. Everything feels shallow on Vraylar. Shallow orgasm , shallow laughing, shallow motivation, nothing real.
Today i got my ass up and did a work out for the very first time since, cause i had the urge to do. And i developed the balls. I know working out heavy causes a little extra stress on the body, so what!
And Today the day was like different from the other days. I was messaging with a girl from a different country via a dating app and i also spoke to my friend. So i wasn't feeling isolated that much. I stayed home. It remembered what i did the first 40 days since i changed the city, which is playing computer games, and fasting, experimenting with food, trying to get to see new places.
I have casually small phases of depression, but then i remind myself that i have not really felt better in years since now, even now, there is plenty room for improvement.
Every day, for me, when i do not do physical progress, is a wasted day for me. Mentally i am learning a lot, but to be honest, i can not get enough of trying to look good. Damn i am 32 and lost 1 year of my fucking life because of Invega. I want to get to know a girl finally. Fuck! Have a normal social cycle. Drive a car. Travel. Have kids in the new feature. Go to work without worrying about my past, with new people in a new environment. Fuck the people from the past, they only know your old version of yourself. They maybe not might want to see you growing! FUCK! :D
 
When i have depressed phases, those depressions are miles deep of the deep ocean. I mean i get reminded of those depressions from the past. Like even giving up talking. It happens. On days i do not talk much i get depressed. The problem is, that i am not always want to talk to poeple. Or i want to talk to people but find excuses to not to do. Almost as if feel ashamed for that basic need of a human being to communicate. They say when you are psychotic you have a feel of guilt. I have that. Inside of me. Had it for fucking few years. I feel very down at the moment. It is as there is no fucking future and everything stays the same, it seems. I have to go to the grocery store tomorrow, and to be honest that gives me anxiety. Not now, but tomorrow for sure. Right before i walk out of my apartment.
 
How was your energy physically on vraylar? have been switched too from invega to vraylar and I feel tired, but better than with invega. In any case, I don't know if I will recover little by little when Invega leaves my body or if it is more or leds the same with Vraylar.

Pd: I have 32 too, bad time to deal with these to be honest. Splits you in half your plans for life but well, now i am focus in recover. I totally feel like you Máster Green.
 
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So right now, i think, i have reached the point of no return. Like, i am mostly feeling myself, without feeling the effect of Vraylar.
It has been like this since yesterday evening i think. I experience all sorts of emotions and have all sorts of thoughts. I am analyzing things more and more, almost unable to come out of my head.

See, dry fasting heals. And i strongly believe it will cure my mental issues.
I had plenty of random thoughts today. People passing by, and i have been ghosted a few times, which triggers anger in me.
So i just try to focus on the development of the last few months as a person and try to stay positive.

Here in Germany, many people ostracize you by default. Specially when you are an immigrant .
It is part of their culture. They are indeed very antisocial in many regards. That is why it is so difficult to make friends over here.
Even the immigrants that grew up in Germany were like this.
However, that is a discussion for a another time.

I feel so overwhelmed at the moment, even now. It is almost as if i am panicking. So i decided to do a dry fast while i was outside.
So, I went outside to go to for a walk and chill in the sun.
While i was outside sitting in the sun, which was lovely, and i enjoyed it, i was still inside my head most of the time. Lots of triggers, lots of ramdon thoughts from the past start to appear. Things that i had forgotten while on Vraylar start to appear in my brain at such a fast pace.
Today in the morning, i felt the urge to want a girlfriend or to want a hug and intimacy. This urges is on the same level as before Vraylar.

Well what else is different...my aggression is higher than it was on Vraylar. I started to develop the ability to have anger at a higher intensity as on Vraylar, like 95% normal.
But this is the least thing i want to be of feel. I don't want to be angry, or depressed or frustraded. All i want is peace at the moment. No negativity, no stress just peace.
It is the first time since many years that i feel peace within me, and that i am happy and laughing and smiling.
It is a crazy transitioning, right now.
I am lying in my bed, sleeping, trying to relax and let nature do it's healing. Yes i am scared to be honest, because i know how those holes feel, like when you get psychotic/mental and you start to behave and feel the same before getting drugged with that poison.
Because to be honest, it feels like the last 3 months have been shallow as fuck and now i get thrown in the cold water again. Anyway i take it for what it is and try to be real with it.
 
kicki said:
How was your energy physically on vraylar? have been switched too from invega to vraylar and I feel tired, but better than with invega. In any case, I don't know if I will recover little by little when Invega leaves my body or if it is more or leds the same with Vraylar.

Pd: I have 32 too, bad time to deal with these to be honest. Splits you in half your plans for life but well, now i am focus in recover. I totally feel like you Máster Green.
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Don't worry, you will recover friend. But it takes time. That's just how it works.
Thank you for your feedback. Very appreciated :)
 
Today i was very angry for the first time today, like 100%, but not constantly, like more for a few moments.
Today the day felt long. And video games, i start to feel nothing but boredom when i play them. I can not get myself excited to play them.
My dopamine receptors are mostly recovered i would say, like 95%. Serotonin levels are back to normal as well i think. I am just in this weird transitioning period.
Like i have been in a shallow state of mind for so long and finally i can get angry again.
I think i should listen more to my body than of my bad habits.
Every game is boring to the bone. Video games kill all motivation. The problem is, what to do with all that time.
Now, time feel very real and as a loner i always kept myself busy with video games and stuff. But after playing 3 months video games straight every day, and the waking up process it is like "ok, what now?" Am i going to start to read books when i am at home? I like reading don't get me wrong, but i am just so fucking used to heavy brain stimulation to escape my daily like routine.
I naturally wake up early and want to go to sleep around 11 or midnight.
Everything starts to feel more intense now. After every electronic session my brain needs to calm itself down, like it is about to recover.
They say, dopamine addiction causes "psychosis".
 
So, in the last 2 days i was thinking a lot. But it was not like excessive thinking about solving problems, but more like relaxed thinking. Being very calm and reflect on many things of my past.
I can have long deep thoughts now, without interruptions of the drug.
Today and yesterday i got stomach pain again. I sometimes have that feeling of helplessness again, but then i am on a fast or dry fast and can make my brain and and body calm down.
I have this friend that i have rejected, because i am not attracted to her. Now it is a different situation. I mean, i enjoy the talks on the phone with her, because she is very intelligent and can give practical advice very quick, but i am not attractive to her physically and her insecurity prevails and that is very unattractive overall.
She gives me confidence, and i do give her confidence, but it is that she wants more than friendship, so i told her that we can be friends but not more than that.
I am already going through a lot of stress and there are a lot of people to get to know. I can not and i do not want to handle the stress so much, that she has a negative impact in my life. But we will see what happens.
 
Every day the effects of the drug get less and less. I am experiencing anger at like 98% when i get angry.
All my anger basically is exponentially high when i do fasting without enough salt, or when i have excessive amounts of stress.
But i still manage to get to sleep after i get stressed and having that much of sleep is helping me to overcome the stress and recover from it.
I am sleeping a lot. Like in the past week i slept additionally 2 hours every evening. Before that, i did not have the urge to do it.
I don't know why i sleep so much. Perhaps, that i am out of fight or flight mode, that i have been in years, it is like this. And of course the extra stress of the medication (dirty drug).
Overall i feel pretty good. But i am also sad, because what happened to the relationship between me and the girl.
The talks between me and her were just so relaxing.
She was no judging me, whatever i had to say. Even about psychosis and schizophrenia. She was very open minded. A good friend, with some issues though obviously, but i am not judging her either. She was really exaggerating with all that insecurities coming up the surface and she was fighting for her worth and so on, don't know starting talking about ego and blabla... and i was thinking "are you mad bro?". If she has issues with, like with self worth and shit, it is just not attractive. And i am not attracted to her physically either. So... Whatever happens, happens. I am good at the moment without the drama.
 
I've been on vraylar for 2 years. starting to get twitching in my fingers.

doc said german scientist found vraylar increases cognitive ability, lol. idk.

anyway, it seems to be doing me fine as a mania suppressor and antipsychotic.

hope the come off isn't horrible, if I need to
 
Master Green said:
That sounds very sad man.
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I don't think it's sad. If someone was diabetic, would you call it sad that they had to take insulin the rest of their life?

Sometimes being on meds is a fact of life, regardless of if it is for physical or mental illness. Do you even know his condition?

Please do not judge people for their methods of self-care, it has no place in this subforum.
 
Jerry Atrick said:
I don't think it's sad. If someone was diabetic, would you call it sad that they had to take insulin the rest of their life?

Sometimes being on meds is a fact of life, regardless of if it is for physical or mental illness. Do you even know his condition?

Please do not judge people for their methods of self-care, it has no place in this subforum.
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Yes because, diabetes is reverseable.
It's a huge scam. The whole health industrie is a scam.
See, when you are Type 1 diabetic, your pancreas does not produce the amount of insulin it should, to bring down blood sugars. Because in the meantime, your liver is also disfunctional, because the liver is not insulin sensivity anymore, cause you had overload it with tons of sugar (if your bloodsugars got low).
So, by fasting you let your liver heal from insulin resistance.
However, when you start fasting on a regular basis, the liver and pancreas (in many cases) you can actually reverse even type 1 diabetes.
The body WILL NOT produce it's own hormones as well ,if you put hormones in it from injections for instance, because the body thinks, that it does not have to produce it's own, because there is hormones in the injection already.
Same with TRT.
Your own test production gets wrecked, and that's why most people have low test levels when they come off TRT.

Type 2 diabetes is even easier. Just don't elivate your bloodsugars all the day ( fasting) or do the ketogenic diet. And soon your body becomes insulin sensitive again. And then you don't need the insulin injection anymore.
 
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