Covid-19 The New Covid Megathread v.Oh-my-cron!

[w01fg4ng]

Is it less traumatic to be raped by a man if you're a male bisexual?

I would think so. I don't know. It's probably also more traumatic in the long term in some ways if you're gay and you get raped.

You're reading more into my comment than I intended.

I don't have a rape fantasy. It was just banter.

Did you know that a significant number of rape victims have orgasms during the rape?

 

[birdup]

My spidey sense tells me to back away slowly.

 

[w01fg4ng]

I don't think you were prepared for this topic

 

[birdup]

Ok

 

[w01fg4ng]

I love my Cry Baby mask the best. It's so cute.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Still, hard to accurately do the maths without knowing the demographic breakdown. You could do it very roughly with general mortality risk but that's potentially not fair in either direction.

You did half a calculation just now.

How many people out of 100k are likely to die in a 6 (or 12) month period?

Deaths per 100,000 in Australia are somewhere between 500 and 1000.

Increase the mortality risk of the number of infected people by 5%... and does that account for the 4,000? I don't think so.

haha yes that's why i stopped there, because i have no idea how you extrapolate from a couple of % increase in likelihood of death (when i don't even know the original %). but yeah it probably doesn't account for all of the 4000. assuming a 1% death rate (so 1000 per 100k) normally and a 2-3x increase would give 2-3k more deaths.

This is another point (I've thought of like half a dozen now) that I didn't add to the initial list of potential deaths from lockdowns. I, personally, neglected my medical and dental visits because of COVID. I have a couple of relatively serious conditions. I also know numerous people who were disallowed surgeries because priority was given to COVID patients, who - at least after 2020 - were largely unvaccinated.

i get what you're saying but i don't think you can blame you neglecting your health entirely on lockdowns, like there is a definite impact on mental health and thus ability to care for physical health, but assuming your follow ups were available to you, it isn't the lockdown per se that caused that.

i've had the opposite. in general i try to ignore my health because its fucked and there's nothing i can do apart from try to lead a healthier lifestyle now. but the NHS has not allowed me to, had some cancer screening stuff and all these lung investigations.

the impact on surgeries is a nightmare and i feel awful for the people stuck in the backlog. but again, that's not really lockdowns, that's the finite amount of resources, people, operating theatres etc.

In this African country, children aren't allowed to leave the house because of COVID. My brothers kids are being home-schooled by him. This has been going on longer than any adult lockdown in the world. It's madness.

that s fucking horrendous. like there is no scientific justification for not allowing children to leave their own house. i agree that is madness. the impact on children even over here where we've been relatively lax is awful and its one of the myriad reasons why i would not support any further lockdowns in the UK. there needs to be some pragmatism.

Beyond the impact the lockdowns have had globally on the death rate (and perhaps you're right, maybe it is marginal) they have had an extraordinary effect on generations of children. My daughter hardly interacted with anyone except for her parents for months at a time. I have mental health problems. My wife has mental health problems. We needed help from our family and it wasn't available.

I see severely disabled people that I work with (the very people we were supposed to vaccinate ourselves to protect) suffering from the lockdowns and the mandates.

My grandmother has lead a hard life. She was alive during both world wars (EDIT: no, that's not possible - I am very high right now). She is almost a hundred. She is vaccinated. My father is up there, right now. He booked a ticket as soon as they changed the rules. He's been watching like a hawk, waiting for a chance to see his mother.

He sent me a message to say that she can't understand what he's saying because he has to wear a mask and a shield. She's confused by the whole situation. They tell her it's for her own good, but it's not at this point. She doesn't have many years left. She deserves to die on her terms.

that is really sad. can't believe i'm saying this but actually makes me kinda glad my granny (i basically only had 1 gradnparent) isn't around, she'd have been way over 100, had serious mobility problems since before i was born, this would have been awful for her.

Sometimes I imagine people perceiving me as hostile. We're all good. The support you provide on this website is essential. You're a good soul.

Likewise, I'm sorry if I've rubbed you the wrong way.

When COVID started, I was a new parent buying their first house and going back into the workforce after a long hiatus. Life was super hard already, without this virus. I can't help but draw the line somewhere.

you haven't, don't worry. i think we're broadly in agreement that around here is where the line is.

i don't know if it makes you feel better, but you can get to the end of this knowing you did the right thing, and you did it from a place of love for those around you. whether it turned out eventually to make much of a difference (and i think you probably did, its just hard to see that someone you never met didn't die because you didn't pass covid forward) or not doesn't matter, your intentions were good and you took the course of action least likely to harm others around you based on the information you had.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

The numbers are completely manufactured. I posted an Excel snapshot I made from the UK Office for National Statistics data-set recently, which clearly shows that in 2020 the only months where something looks out of the ordinary was March and April. It has been obvious since summer 2020 this entire thing is a statistical and medical fraud, and now that the situation has cooled off (and money made, people injected) bits of information are coming out that verify what I've long stated. But the damage has been done and the people so hopelessly brainwashed they won't take any notice of it.

If you want to know how it is done, again I highly recommend reading "Virus Mania" by T. Engelbrecht. The same formula has been used multiple times right back to and including the HIV/AIDs "epidemic". It is collusion between the pharmaceutical industry and its funded virological science, and people within the MSM, governments, and key institutions.

There is still an HIV/AIDS pandemic, it has been going on since the early 1970s and the deaths were theorised to be a rare cancer caused by sniffing Amyl/Butyl-Nitrate or poppers or some rare strain of pneumonia, but it was not until the early 1980s when entire multiple generations of gay and bisexual men were dying in massive numbers that people started paying attention. Even today in 2022 people are still being infected with HIV, and dying from ARC, or from the side effects of the drugs which are powerful at keeping CD4 count high but wreck havoc on the body, but they must be taken daily.

HIV takes 8-10 years in a person's body from infection to kill them if they are not on meds or all of the meds stop working, so the date of a death from AIDS can work back to the year of infection.

It is not all that rare for HIV positive people in the western world to die of HIV related conditions. These medications when taken chronically are associated with a high risk of heart disease, possibly diabetes, strokes, liver failure, etc. I’ve personally known two who died of medication related issues. In addition to that, simply being HIV positive carries an increased risk of lymphoma, leukemia, and other cancers including anal,oral.
Despite what multi-quintrillion drug companies and HIV orgs claim, this is not an illness where you can just take the meds and expect to necessarily live a normal life span, and being HIV+ is not like being diabetic or 'better than' being diabetic. Many people who are POZ have success with treatment, but some don’t.

Those advocating caution are correct. Refusing to have unsafe sex with someone is not hateful. It is wise, but everyone must choose for himself how to conduct his own life. As has been pointed out, it is not just HIV that people need to be concerned about. Syphilis, gonorrhea are still out there and are becoming increasingly resistant to antibiotics. HPV is a big one that is causing rapidly increasing rates of cancer in gay men.
It is wise to not have sex with strangers and to limit the number of sex partners.
This is an encouraging development, but I really hope it doesn’t lead people to think they can just go back to behaving as guys did pre-HIV.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

^ You misspelled rape.

I don't wear my mask anymore unless told to by the feds. Most places here never required it anyway but I'd always get a few Karens to give me the evil eye when wearing one.

The cancel culture surrounding masks seems to have backfired because it's no longer a novelty to anyone. No one cares how much of a pussy you are for wearing a mask anymore.

I wear one indoors and in places it is required, and when socializing with older family members, and with people who have issues with the immune system.

 

[-=SS=-]

There is still an HIV/AIDS pandemic, it has been going on since the early 1970s and the deaths were theorised to be a rare cancer caused by sniffing Amyl/Butyl-Nitrate or poppers or some rare strain of pneumonia, but it was not until the early 1980s when entire multiple generations of gay and bisexual men were dying in massive numbers that people started paying attention. Even today in 2022 people are still being infected with HIV, and dying from ARC, or from the side effects of the drugs which are powerful at keeping CD4 count high but wreck havoc on the body, but they must be taken daily.

"Yet not a single HIV particle has ever been observed by electron microscopy in the blood of patients supposedly having a high viral load". - Etienne de Harven

HIV is bollocks. Doesn't exist. The pharmaceutical industry concocted it out of sheer cloth and very cleverly used the gay community to hide behind, because no one could legitimately question the possibility that it was in fact their lifestyle choices that were leading these men to getting ill. To do so would invite scorn. Poppers in particular, along with hard drug use and malnutrition, is the primary cause in that community. In Africa all they did was push various conditions under the umbrella of AIDS, for which we already know the causes of and likewise have nothing to do with a mythical HIV virus.

The pharmaceutical and medical industry in the USA is corrupt as fuck. Not only did they completely fabricate it but their solution, AZT, has killed so many people who would have otherwise been just fine. The diagnosis and the cure killed them, not HIV.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

"Yet not a single HIV particle has ever been observed by electron microscopy in the blood of patients supposedly having a high viral load". - Etienne de Harven

HIV is bollocks. Doesn't exist. The pharmaceutical industry concocted it out of sheer cloth and very cleverly used the gay community to hide behind, because no one could legitimately question the possibility that it was in fact their lifestyle choices that were leading these men to getting ill. To do so would invite scorn. Poppers in particular, along with hard drug use and malnutrition, is the primary cause in that community. In Africa all they did was push various conditions under the umbrella of AIDS, for which we already know the causes of and likewise have nothing to do with a mythical HIV virus.

The pharmaceutical and medical industry in the USA is corrupt as fuck. Not only did they completely fabricate it but their solution, AZT, has killed so many people who would have otherwise been just fine. The diagnosis and the cure killed them, not HIV.

HIV does exist. I suggest you actually meet people who actually are HIV+, who have had AIDS, talk to doctors or volunteer with HIV/AIDS orgs, and you will realise it is not a myth. You really need to get out of your coddled comfort zone and start living in reality, and educate yourself. Go watch a documentary about Ryan White, go view sections of the AIDS quilt, or go to an ACT-UP meeting. SILENCE = DEATH.

Particle? It is a virus and the structure of the virus can be seen, and it is detected in blood and now saliva.

Poppers or Amyl/Butyl, while it is not good for the body or heart do not cause HIV or AIDS.

AZT was originally in super high doses at the time, and many people broke their tablets in half, and AZT has been released under different names or brands and is used in combination with other drugs AKA the cocktail.

I remember when AZT was THE only option for medication for HIV+ people and people with AIDS. Were you even alive then? It was either take it daily, or die from HIV/AIDS. Thankfully bisexual and gay men and bisexual and lesbian women in ACT-UP got the ball rolling for funding and research into HIV meds and brought prices down.

There are many more heterosexual people in the world who are HIV+, living with AIDS, or who have died from HIV/AIDS. The virus was at first spread via heterosexual people, blood that was unknowingly infected, and misinformation.

No I am not poz or HIV+. I know people who are and who have had it from the beginning since the late 1970s or 1984.

I have heard your completely untrue and mythical bollocks arguments since the late 1980s, do you know anyone who is HIV+ or who has been living with HIV/AIDS for decades? I know people here on bluelight who are HIV+. I am not going to name them but if they want to reply to this thread they can do this.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Is it less traumatic to be raped by a man if you're a male bisexual?

I would think so. I don't know. It's probably also more traumatic in the long term in some ways if you're gay and you get raped.

You're reading more into my comment than I intended.

I don't have a rape fantasy. It was just banter.

It is rape, it is horrible no matter who is doing it to someone regardless of their sex/gender.

 

[Burnt Offerings]

HIV is bollocks. Doesn't exist. The pharmaceutical industry concocted it out of sheer cloth and very cleverly used the gay community to hide behind, because no one could legitimately question the possibility that it was in fact their lifestyle choices that were leading these men to getting ill. To do so would invite scorn.

Yeah because we all know how socially-acceptable homosexuality was in the 1970s and 1980s...

 

[-=SS=-]

HIV does exist. I suggest you actually meet people who actually are HIV+, who have had AIDS, talk to do.. blah blah

This is a circular argument. You are claiming it exists because people have symptoms that you ascribe to existence of HIV.

Which to bring us full circle is exactly what Covid is, a circular argument. If you actually examine the actual evidence, the virology that underpins the entire belief system, you'll find that as is the case with HIV that it is completely fraudulent.

The symptoms do not belong to HIV (or SARS-Cov2). Fraudulent virology and fraudulent testing regimes have given the illusion of something that is not actually real. The symptoms and illness are physically real, just not the definition of its cause/s, and for which there can multiple causes too e.g. pneumonia, lung inflammation, has loads of causes.

It's all about definitions.

I say the pharmaceutical industry, which controls and funds the virology, is completely full of shit and creating a market for itself using everyone's fear of illness/death. The corruption and financial activity that goes on is proof of that, and that is absolutely indisputable.

 

[Las Veghost grower]

This is a circular argument. You are claiming it exists because people have symptoms that you ascribe to existence of HIV.

Which to bring us full circle is exactly what Covid is, a circular argument. If you actually examine the actual evidence, the virology that underpins the entire belief system, you'll find that as is the case with HIV that it is completely fraudulent.

The symptoms do not belong to HIV (or SARS-Cov2). Fraudulent virology and fraudulent testing regimes have given the illusion of something that is not actually real. The symptoms and illness are physically real, just not the definition of its cause/s, and for which there can multiple causes too e.g. pneumonia, lung inflammation, has loads of causes.

It's all about definitions.

I say the pharmaceutical industry, which controls and funds the virology, is completely full of shit and creating a market for itself using everyone's fear of illness/death. The corruption and financial activity that goes on is proof of that, and that is absolutely indisputable.

Are you saying the virus or disease dosent actually exist? It’s just a group of symptoms that we then give a name ? Obviously the is something causing these symptoms in people

 

[Las Veghost grower]

What percent of cops do you think are corrupt?

Well I guess it depends on how we’re defining corrupt, are we just talking about cops that kill unarmed people and get away with it ? Or are we talking about cops that lie about overtime or help their buddies out of tickets n what not ? I’d say it’s prolly higher then you think…

 

[tubgirl.jpg]

Remember in the second half of 2021 when they started pumping out a bunch of heart attack and stroke articles?

Here's a few:

What's a "winter vagina"? Anyone?

 

[thujone]

This is what the government wants you to believe is a fringe minority, and of course the newsmedia joins in with this ridiculous "white supremacist" slander.

Maajid أبو عمّار (@MaajidNawaz)

the revolution will not be televised Ottawa, Canada 🇨🇦 RISES against Covid MANDATES (sound on) #RESIST

nitter.net

Who is really the enemy of the people?

 

[-=SS=-]

Are you saying the virus or disease dosent actually exist? It’s just a group of symptoms that we then give a name ? Obviously the is something causing these symptoms in people

I'm saying the viruses, HIV and SARSNCov2, don't exist. The diseases that they supposedly cause, AIDS and Covid, are umbrella terms that are taking credit away from various known causes of illness. There is no distinct symptom for either of these diseases, they are a collection of symptoms that have tremendous overlap with already known conditions. All that has happened is that have set up a belief system that connects a viral particle to this umbrella definition of a cluster of symptoms, the main link being of course some sort of 'test' for the presence of the virus.

It's a racket. That's literally what it is. The pharmaceutical industry and medical establishment, controlled by the ruling class, are selling products off the back of fear and ignorance. People are getting sick and dying, as they always have, and of course as human beings we always have to have an explanation for it. They've cornered the market completely and are basically telling you why you're getting ill, without you yourself being able to prove/disprove it. You get symptoms and you can't argue with that reality, so naturally you reach for the most dominant explanation which they happily provide.

Everyone believes in viruses, yet 99.99% of people have never even seen one with their own eyes and are unable to prove they actually exist. It's a belief system that nobody bothers to question. Fear of illness and death are powerful, and that takes priority. If the explanation seems like a good fit that's good enough, which is fair enough but it isn't a guarantee it's the truth.

 

[Fire&Water]

he's not an evil man as some will claim, he's just a good doctor and has no agenda, he's simply a doctor doing his job and is not involved in politics

May be the best laugh ive had all w/end!

 

[Jabberwocky]

May be the best laugh ive had all w/end!

Kinda weird but ok

You don't like him because you've been told not to, you can't even tell me anything about him without using propaganda flash cards

humorous, I suppose