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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy DOC Thread - Third opinion

Bare_head said:
very interesting Xork! funnily i found 2C-B not that effective orally and found it a bit hit and miss unless i snorted it, yes it hurt like hell but the come up was instant and the euphoric push was more pronounced.

i do not reccomend snorting any 2C-x's but 2C-B has a fairly good safety profile . the burning does hurt but i kind of liked it because of the mental effects =D

2C-C is definitely on my list to try before i die now =D
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I'm the same way with 2C-B. Most people find it to be empty eye candy when used intranasally, emotionally rich and therapeutic when taken orally. That's not me. I get a lot more out of it intranasally.
 
Bare_head said:
very interesting Xork! funnily i found 2C-B not that effective orally and found it a bit hit and miss unless i snorted it, yes it hurt like hell but the come up was instant and the euphoric push was more pronounced.

i do not reccomend snorting any 2C-x's but 2C-B has a fairly good safety profile . the burning does hurt but i kind of liked it because of the mental effects =D

2C-C is definitely on my list to try before i die now =D
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Yeah the 2C-Xs are more intense snorted, but the same is true when they're plugged, it's similar but snorted is even more of an intense peak. But I prefer plugged by a large margin because it doesn't hurt and is just overall superior and more comfortable, while being stronger than oral still.
 
How is DOC when snorted? I've snorted most of the 2c series. I think the only 2c I've tried orally is 2c-e.
 
I remember someone many years ago talking about DOC being really good snorted, at least twice as potent. But I recommend against it, it's so potent, you can't weigh a single dose accurately on a scale, especially if you're cutting it in half from a normal oral dose. You could make a nasal spray with a spray bottle that releases a known volume per spray and dose it that way. But I'd be really careful, DOC causes vasoconstriction and there have been deaths from it (granted, huge doses). Still, I would be worried that snorting it would increase the side effects due to more rapid onset and blood serum concentration. If you must try, start very small and make sure you know what you're doing and use a nasal spray with an accurate spray bottle and be damn sure of your dose.
 
Xorkoth said:
I remember someone many years ago talking about DOC being really good snorted, at least twice as potent. But I recommend against it, it's so potent, you can't weigh a single dose accurately on a scale, especially if you're cutting it in half from a normal oral dose. You could make a nasal spray with a spray bottle that releases a known volume per spray and dose it that way. But I'd be really careful, DOC causes vasoconstriction and there have been deaths from it (granted, huge doses). Still, I would be worried that snorting it would increase the side effects due to more rapid onset and blood serum concentration. If you must try, start very small and make sure you know what you're doing and use a nasal spray with an accurate spray bottle and be damn sure of your dose.
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Do you think it would be ok to trust the dosing of 3.5mg pills going around? Others have said the green ones are supposed to be dosed properly...
 
Hmm, well I'm not sure. I'd think if anything I'd expect them to be underdosed if not accurate. But it depends on how professional the operation is. A sloppy operation could have a lot of variability in doses, and uneven distribution in the pills. Or they could be trustworthy. It's hard to say.
 
Xorkoth said:
Yeah the 2C-Xs are more intense snorted, but the same is true when they're plugged, it's similar but snorted is even more of an intense peak. But I prefer plugged by a large margin because it doesn't hurt and is just overall superior and more comfortable, while being stronger than oral still.
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Hehhh...well, I got nosebleeds from it sometimes when I insufflated it, so let me tell you plugging it was not something that I felt great about before or after 😅
 
I tried vaping 2ce a few times. That was interesting. It still made me really sick and negative body load (vomiting, sweating, fast heart rate, face turn red, high BP). At least it didn't have the burn of intranasal. Can't wait to get a job soon so i can order some DOC.
 
What about mindfuck on DOC? Will I handle simple tasks on 2 mg? Like not getting lost on a walk around my neighbourhood like I do on lysergamides.
 
aag said:
What about mindfuck on DOC? Will I handle simple tasks on 2 mg? Like not getting lost on a walk around my neighbourhood like I do on lysergamides.
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It depends...
While the mindfuck itself is quite manageable, the duration of the trip can be tough to handle.

So you will probably be fine hours 1-12, but after being high for +20h you might feel quite weird.
So its really individual.
 
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I have not really experienced mindfuck on DOC, it is a very enabling sort of experience, especially at 2mg. I feel sharp and inquisitive, my mind explodes with thought but in a directed way.
 
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I've acquired some 2mg tabs. A friend and I are planning on splitting one and going hiking. What kind of experience can I expect from 1mg?
 
1mg is a light trip for me, probably not visual at all, but definitely a trip. 2mg is a better dose than 1mg, but 1mg should be enjoyable.
 
Xorkoth said:
1mg is a light trip for me, probably not visual at all, but definitely a trip. 2mg is a better dose than 1mg, but 1mg should be enjoyable.
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Would you recommend 2mg? Just worried about body load but I handle the body load from 2C-B pretty well.
 
I hate to underdose on a psychedelic. It's happened with 5-meo-amt, amt, possibly mushrooms, HBWR, and maybe I'd even say BOD (much more recently). I feel kinda dreamy and dissociated rather than the clear cut effects of the psychedelic experience when that happens. So dreamy but nothing like a trip.

It almost makes me skeptical of microdosing.

Everyday I think about tripping and so far I've managed not to for some days now. Maybe even more than a week now. Got plenty of 4-aco-dmt left and some 25b-NBOH blotters. Usually I don't think twice before tripping and am likely to trip at the drop of a hat. Maybe because my last trip was pretty difficult, but maybe I was overdue for that. I'd been doing so much tripping and rolling and flipping lately.

I still kinda want to try 6mg for my first DOC trip, but lately I'm a hardhead with psychedelics. I need at least 3g of excellent mushrooms lately to even get mild visuals, and even that is unlikely without the addition of MDMA..
 
simstim said:
I still kinda want to try 6mg for my first DOC trip, but lately I'm a hardhead with psychedelics. I need at least 3g of excellent mushrooms lately to even get mild visuals, and even that is unlikely without the addition of MDMA..
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6mg sounds quite high but if you can handle 25B-NBOH you should be fine.
 
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