I've only used meth once before, I only insufflated a very small amount. I have always been cautious and saved it until such a time I have such great drug experience and knowledge I trust myself enough to do it.
So I have just gotten 2G of M and, well. What should I know before I do it?
Advice such as, don't do it. Won't be heeded.
Advice such as, maybe try not having a whole 2G around or doing more than XXX amount in XXX time. Things that will make my short experimentation with this chemical safer and more comfortable an experience would be appreciated.
I have smoked a bunch of really good crack before and I am not addicted to that. I have a great ability to be able to try different substances (even H/etc) and take my experience from it then leave it alone and seek more things to experiment with. The one thing I always return to and polarise myself with is psychedelics and LSD. Saying that, if someone did offer me a pipe filled with some nice C it'd be hard to say no. But I won't go out actively looking for it or paying for it. If you know what I mean?
So, knowing my personality and the fact I have 2G to mess around with, what's the best way to proceed? I am thinking to vape/plug BTW!
Thanks
Well, as a regular meth user who has broken his addiction twice for several years but always come back to it and as someone who has tried the whole panoply of drugs you mention as well as quite a few others, I feel it is my harm reduction responsibility to first caution you against messing with meth. The euphoria when first using it is 10 X what crack cocaine is. Combine that with longevity of the ride and the extreme pro sexual effects, it can very easily get a grip on you before you know what’s happened. For an absolute novice, 2g is more than enough to earn you an ongoing habit.
But that said, let’s move on to how to use it safely if you insist on proceeding. Firstly, as an absolute novice and provided you are not any any neuroleptic medication, a dose of just 50-100mg should get you high for a good 18-24 hours. The first 8-12 hours will be extreme whole body euphoria. You’ll be quivering with excitement and if your mind turns in that direction you’ll get as horny as hell. One of the features of the meth high is stereotypy or punding where you get obsessed with one action or activity endlessly to the exclusion of all else. Often this takes the form of masturbation and once you get started it can be extremely difficult to stop for 8 hours or longer. It’s good to have a concrete plan to go somewhere or do something BEFORE you get high - otherwise you’ll be stuck in your bedroom doing something pointless but that seems all engaging. The second 12 hours of your high will be less euhporic and you’ll be wide-awake, energetic but not overly so, and feel you have great mental acuity, focus and concentration. Towards the end of the period you’ll start to feel more irritable and sketched out depending on how long you’ve gone without sleep.
Start with 50 mg. Meth is cumulative and you can re-dose at any time (unlike say LSD) to both increase the high and the duration. The time until re-dose depends on your ROA because you need to wait until your first dose is metabolised to see how high you actually are. 100 mg straight up could easily overamp you, and that ain’t fun.
Insufflating: time to high 15-20 minutes. Hurts like hell because meth so caustic. Irrigate your nose with saline water afterwards (once meth absorbed)
Smoking: time to high 5-10 minutes. Requires specialised implements, takes forever, the act itself us addictive and you can easily pund on smoking.
IV: time to high 2-5 minutes. Highly dangerous. Highly addictive, Very destructive on body. Don’t start.
Plugging: time to high 10-15 minutes, depending on where you hit in your rectum. Bit hit and miss but gives nice smooth rush if done correctly. Easily botched.
Oral: time to high 30-40 minutes. Put meth in a gelcap or twist of toilet paper to swallow.
With 2 g at your disposal you will be highly tempted to keep re-dosing. You should not have to do more tha. 100 mg in 24 hours. You also don’t want to stay high longer than 48 hours due the effect on your body and mind and the increased intensity of the crash. If it takes 100 mg to get through the first 24 hours it will probably take 150 mg to get through the second 24. But only redose every 6 hours or so with 50 mg. You can easily push yourself into overamping or psychosis in that second 24 hours.
At the end of the trip you are going to have real trouble sleeping and if you don’t the comedown may be one of the most psychologically traumatic experiences of your life depending on what kind of tendency towards anxiety or depression y0u have. Benzos or an anti-psychotic like seroquel are a must. You don’t need a big dose of either and if you still can’t sleep at least go to bed and try and relax breathing deeply and listening to chill music.
So for 48 hours you are going to need a MAX of 250g, probably less if you want to stay out of trouble. If you leave your house DO NOT TAKE THE 2g BAG WITH YOU, or next thing you know it will be 4 days later and you’re in some kind of institution, penal or medical depending on luck mainly. Measure out your 50 g doses WITH SCALES into gelcaps to take with you. It is very difficult to eyeball meth weight. A 0.05 g shard and a 0.2 g shard often aren’t that different really depending on density. 50 grams the wrong way and you could be overamping since you have zero tolerance.
Make sure you eat a high protein meal (with lots of leafy greens) before you take off, try and remember to snack a little through your high, and stay hydrated with electrolyte drinks. You need to drink a lot. Do a search here to find the symptoms of overamping and meth overdose. It could safe your life. There is a recent great thread on meth overdoses you should read just in case. Beware of overheating - that’s when meth becomes particularly neurotoxic
Finally meth has diminishing returns. Enjoy this first experience because IT WILL NEVER FEEL LIKE THAT AGAIN no matter how much you take. The first thing to go with continued meth use is euphoria. If you went through that 2g bag in say 2 weeks you’d notice that you need 100-150 mg at the end to equal anything like what that first 50 mg did. It’s all downhill from there. A seasoned user will go through 1 g in 24 hours, feel next to no euphoria, and sleep at the end of it.
Any specific questions hit me up.
