Meth ⫸Methamphetamine Megathread⫷

[Bumblebear]

ive gotta stop. arms trashed

Mine too and possibly missed a small shot ... Thank good ness wasn't a full one cause now I have a Fairly large bump

 

[immapatsy]

!!in need of advice!!
So I made a ROOKIE mistake that I've never done in my 11 years of being on the rig. But last night I couldn't hit at all and got frustrated and my hands were shaking from the shots of ice I've been doing and staying up. So In my twacked out state I found one on my forearm and I hit BUT I SHOT UP GOING TOWARDS MY WRIST instead of towards my heart. The way the blood runs. And the shot was THICK. And I didn't miss. But now I have a huge lump raised up about 3 inches across and significantly raised. It doesn't hurt but I've never in my career of use ever done something like this so idk what to do or what might happen.... Please advice.

 

[wudbutcher]

Heating pad on high ibuprofen

 

[immapatsy]

Heating pad on high ibuprofen

I Also have some antibiotics I got from when I had staph. Is that a good idea to take those?

 

[Jabberwocky]

!!in need of advice!!
So I made a ROOKIE mistake that I've never done in my 11 years of being on the rig. But last night I couldn't hit at all and got frustrated and my hands were shaking from the shots of ice I've been doing and staying up. So In my twacked out state I found one on my forearm and I hit BUT I SHOT UP GOING TOWARDS MY WRIST instead of towards my heart. The way the blood runs. And the shot was THICK. And I didn't miss. But now I have a huge lump raised up about 3 inches across and significantly raised. It doesn't hurt but I've never in my career of use ever done something like this so idk what to do or what might happen.... Please advice.

I replied with some more comprehensive advice on your other thread about this. Basically you likely have superficial thrombosis from damaging a valve in your vein. You need to see a doctor but I've describe some first aid in the other post.

 

[immapatsy]

I replied with some more comprehensive advice on your other thread about this. Basically you likely have superficial thrombosis from damaging a valve in your vein. You need to see a doctor but I've describe some first aid in the other post.

Thank you! Yeah I honestly don't hide the fact I'm an opiate/meth IV user even though it gets me treated rather badly most of the times at hospitals.

The lump is hard and pretty big. Only hurts when I touch it. Could me injecting the wrong direction have had some part in it? I have strong antibiotics left over for when I had staph should I take them? Sorry for all the questions.

So in your opinion I shouldn't wait for worse symptoms to occur before going to the ER?

 

[Jabberwocky]

Thank you! Yeah I honestly don't hide the fact I'm an opiate/meth IV user even though it gets me treated rather badly most of the times at hospitals.

The lump is hard and pretty big. Only hurts when I touch it. Could me injecting the wrong direction have had some part in it? I have strong antibiotics left over for when I had staph should I take them? Sorry for all the questions.

So in your opinion I shouldn't wait for worse symptoms to occur before going to the ER?

Here's what I wrote in your other thread. If it was me I wouldn't wait to go to the ER and I'd just ignore any judgementalism and ensure I was safe. The symptoms at the site wil probably only get worse if you get an infection but the clot dislodging and moving through your body will be less immediately noticeable rightup until the point it lodges somewhere else deeper inside you.

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From what you describe it is likely that you injected towards a valve. A corrosive shot like meth will quickly damage a venous valve and possibly result in superficial thrombosis (clotting) and blockage. The risk of the clot dislodging and flowing through your vein to somewhere it can cause real damage is significant (complications include deep-vein thrombosis, stroke, or cardiac damage). You need to see a doctor for a scan and possibly take anti-clotting agents for it to heal. You are at risk both from the clot and potential infection.

If for whatever reason you decline to see a doctor, a continual warm compress, an NSAID like aspirin or ibuoprofen and keeping the limb elevated is the best thing to do (and no further injections in that area and preferably no further meth because the resulting vasoconstriction could make things worse). If it hasn't killed you or gotten worse in 2 weeks you are probably ok.

 

[wudbutcher]

I Also have some antibiotics I got from when I had staph. Is that a good idea to take those?

Heat. With a meth miss, unlike heroin or coke, your body immediately encapsulates the foreign material. hence the hard lump. Heat asap allows the solution to permeate the walls of the white blood cell barrier. Heating pad. Sleep with it. And massage the lump as much as you can stand to. Hold up on antibiotics. Hydrate. Heat.

 

[wudbutcher]

I Also have some antibiotics I got from when I had staph. Is that a good idea to take those?

Heat

 

[SteeleyJ]

Jesus....is it normal to have your vision shake..... heat and even had tracers for a minute from a shot of ice? I had all the normal mamp type things like breathing heart rate and BP ultra focus. It was a large shot. .3 eyeballed.... ice looking and it melted like mamp and everything.

Super fun but This high feels toxic to me and I've been getting confused at work too easy when crashing from morning doses. Now that it's gone its. 2G lasted me 5 days. Time to chill for awhile. Might be the beginnings of amphetamine psychosis with that since I have done it everyday the last 5 days....I've slept.... prolly 4 hours a night and wake up everyday wide awake. I force food and eat protein shakes. Also drink water non stop but there is only so much you can do against this.

 

[Thequietone866]

This is obviously the problem here. In large enough doses seroquel absolutely kills the meth high (btw risperidone does the same thing).

I haven't taken mine in a while, just got my script filled and took a 100 milligram last night. Will that dose affect my high tonight and tomorrow?

 

[dragonix]

I'm tweaking looking for a tip on meth's adopted second cousin lmao

For a *meth* comedown is chelated magnesium helpful why not oxidized?

 

[Quasimodo_]

So my question is how long do y'all last before craving? How much do you smoke? How can you tell good meth from bad without running a test or an alcohol bath. Just on the spot by the look or smell smell. Also how can you tell apart speed from crystal? again by the looks and stuff.

I live in a country where meth is very rare and hard to find. Which results in prices being ridiculously high (Literally double the price of cocaine). To add to that it is absolutely shit quality, or so I suspect. Not sure tho as i have never tried anything better.
I've been smoking meth once or twice a week for about a year. Until about two months ago and now it has increased to about everyday with a break on the 3rd day if I haven't slept. Well so naturally my tolerance has increased and with it my consumption. Tolerance increase is also the reason given by my source. So i went to another guy. Turns out they both get their stuff from the same source!

 

[JTemperance]

You could try snorting your meth, as it's less wasteful than smoking and lasts longer (though it's not as intense).

 

[woyzeck]

funny you say 30 minutes, we used to have a default disclaimer that after the first initial round of hits
for 37 minutes you'll get as high as you're gonna get all night,
but fuck me - you'll spend all night chasing it.

If you're smart you;ll put it away after a couple of hits but who can resist ?

 

[tweakerguy]

funny you say 30 minutes, we used to have a default disclaimer that after the first initial round of hits
for 37 minutes you'll get as high as you're gonna get all night,
but fuck me - you'll spend all night chasing it.

If you're smart you;ll put it away after a couple of hits but who can resist ?

When it's smoked, yeah. Terribly impractical way of using the stuff and straight up pointless after the first 3-4 hits. If you're a new user this should have you blasted for around 6 hours though.

The urge to keep taking hit after hit is much stronger.

 

[Crackle pop]

Im by no means encouraging hard drug use but why not buy the coke half the price. Better quality?? Whip it in to crack in mins an smoke that insted cheaper purer n sounds as if its lasting as long.
I can go hours inbetween smoking pipes if i want or need too.
I always assumed meth would be so intense an last for days lol. Its one drug ive not heard of any ever being sold local. I know theres a small market for it here. But its all coke/Mdma here when it comes to stims amphetamine also but its not as popular as in the 90s

 

[Engine_Of_Chaos]

I've got a question about meth. I was researching how to test your meth for purity or cut. I do not have access to the reagent testing kits that I've read about or any methods like that. I am more in the area of home-made testing theories. I've ran across several ways including dropping meth in bleach and watching the reaction, something about adding a type of alcohol and doing something etc. But the one I was most comfortable that I would do properly was putting a small amount of your meth into a spoon with a small amount of water then boiling off the water while leaving a miniscule amount of it to evaporate/dry itself. I read that if you have good/decent product it will leave a geometric sheen on the spoon. Well I did this test and there was a said sheen on the spoon but in the center of it it seemed the meth left a hard mound in the center. I scratched at this and it crumbled very easily and seemed to be turned back powder like?! I occasionally inject my meth and this scared me beyond belief!! I know injecting any substance is risky but is this normal? What can this mean? I would think the meth 'dissolves' in the water so how did it solidify and have a powdery texture??

Update: I found this on the web.
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Water test:

This is the most simple and basic of tests. Any IV user will know this but people who don’t shoot up might not. Mix about equal parts water as meth. Warm water works better. The crystals should dissolve pretty fast. Depending on the size will depend on the speed though. It should also dissolve clear with no other impurities in it. Also will turn out oily. Depending on how much water you added will make the thickness of the oil vary.

This test you can see reuse the meth. Just leave it out to dry and the water will evaporate leaving it to recrystallize again. <End>

So the mass that's left over is the meth? I also read about the differences in the 2 isomers in methamphetamine. Levo and devo. It said devo meth triggers the dopamine release which causes the euphoria and mental stimulation whereas levo meth will make you 'feel a rush', become hot and sweaty with no stimulation yet your wide awake. I can say I've had some that was excellent and gave you all the good qualities of a meth high and then some like wat I have now do all of the latter. I have only used twice in the last 2 weeks. Is there any truth to what I've read?

 

[purplehaze147]

Meth is generally a fairly high potency compared to other street drugs. Like 90% is pretty normal. It's a little more potent then dextroamphetamine, so I don't know why many are recommending 100mg+ shots. 20mg is enough to get extreme euphoria; if you start off with 100mg it may feel nicer at first but then 20mg won't be enough anymore. People mess up their tolerance like that with most drugs.

Dextromethamphetamine will be about 130% more potent than racemic methamphetamine. Also the type of salt form changes its potency too. HCl will be more potent than sulfate, and the amino acid salts in Adderall are even less potent. That's why Dexedrine is about 1.75x more potent then Adderall even though Adderall is 75% dextroamphetamine, it's only dextroamphetamine sulfate. Adderall has a much heavier mix of salts.

 

[purplehaze147]

The pull of drugs can grab anyone. Once your brain is accustomed to that level of neurotransmitters, any sudden drop is going to be hell. I personally believe it becomes an "illness" at that point and I'm completely astounded at the fact that there's no "maintenance" for stimulant users, kind like there is with opioids. Some kind of maintenance stimulant could probably help somebody who's really ready to be done but just physically needs something to get out of bed in the morning.

Recovery can take a very long time, but there's stuff you can do and take to help speed it up a bit and make it a tad easier. Loving yourself more is definitely a great first step.
I think it's really unfair that our society doesn't address these things differently. If they now accept that addiction is a "disease", then why are people still punished for it? And why the lack of medication assisted treatment options? They could make it so much easier and safer for people if there wasn't so much stigma and regulations.

I have messaged you though man. You are not alone and are welcomed to vent to me any time. I don't even know you but from what I hear, you are a hell of a lot stronger than I am & I believe that you can do whatever you choose to put your mind to. Plus I'm aware of the fact that this is a medical problem and that kicking cold turkey anything is not really the best or easiest way to do something. The brain is going to be crying out in agony with nothing to stimulate your receptors. So if you need anyone to bullshit with or keep your mind off things, just holler at me!!

I think because there's not an excruciating physical addiction, it's the comedown you're feeling the most. It is extremely psychologically addictive, don't get me wrong.

Opioid, barbituate, and benzodiazepine withdrawal makes you so sick you feel like you're dieing if you were on a heavy dose.

Opioid withdrawal is by far the worst feeling, that's why substitution therapy with methadone and buprenorphine is a lifetime thing for many addicts. It's hellish restlessness that you can feel going down the nerves of your arms and legs, with flu like symptoms, temperature disregulation, sweating, unable to eat or sleep. It doesn't fully go away for a year or more. You can go to work without meth after chronic daily use, but for opioid withdrawal you wouldn't be able to do anything productive and hiding because you look obviously sick.