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if you have taken ecstasy back in the 90s you will know what I am talking about.

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Now adays what is being called ecstasy is NOTHING like ecstasy from the 90s. Is there anything out there that is even close? I have heard that GHB was a lot like it? Most recently some said to be MDMA was around and it was sorta close but not really... really. It was the breathing like it and feel good but not like the "rolling" effects. If there is something else that yall know of PLEASE let me know.
 
I have recently came across some GHB and a few weeks ago I was delivered some "mdma" although not anything like my "childhood memories" (I sound like an old person reminiscing about the "good ol days" lol.) although far from it I can honestly say that it was the "closest" (again NO where near as close) I felt almost sick to my stomach for a little while and then it was like "I could feel it was gonna kick in any second... but it never did although I did just sit in the shower for HOURS with the shower just pouring HOT water down on me. For sure was not ROLLING but the shower did seem like the wisest place for me to be... Anyways.... back on topic again. Is it safe to take MDMA and GHB together?
 
Hiya Morning Star. Yep I remember the 90s well. But MDMA doesnt change. Its still MDMA. And even back then, there were problems getting what you thopught you were getting. Its why sites such as this and Pill Reports were born. It might be worth investing in a test kit so that you can at least know that what you are buying is actually mdma and not something that just mimics some of the effects.
 
Now adays what is being called ecstasy is NOTHING like ecstasy from the 90s. Is there anything out there that is even close? I have heard that GHB was a lot like it? Most recently some said to be MDMA was around and it was sorta close but not really... really. It was the breathing like it and feel good but not like the "rolling" effects. If there is something else that yall know of PLEASE let me know.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, 6-apb is far better than 99% of the so called MDMA I've had for 15 years...
 
Hiya Morning Star. Yep I remember the 90s well. But MDMA doesnt change. Its still MDMA. And even back then, there were problems getting what you thopught you were getting. Its why sites such as this and Pill Reports were born. It might be worth investing in a test kit so that you can at least know that what you are buying is actually mdma and not something that just mimics some of the effects.
I was in the Seattle area then and I concur, sometimes (maybe often) we got pills that were probably some percentage MDMA, cut with what was sometimes a cheaper analogue, a cheaper and different drug altogether, but usually cut with amphetamine salts. I had to leave a party (for awhile only out of touch kids still called them raves) once to take my girlfriend to the hospital because she had taken a single Superman and went into hyperthermia in about 10 minutes. I took a pill once that I know was just speed and an unknown psychedelic hallucinogen. Most parties had a Dance Safe kiosk that would test your shit for free, and after that I always took them up to make sure I was taking genuine rolls.

I bought four pills that came back negative and confronted the dealer in my chill charming way. We were still at the party. He actually thanked me, gave me a refund, and we became good friends. He stopped selling that night, and we all danced until dawn. PLUR was real and it was going on.
 
But MDMA doesnt change.
MDMA itself may not change, but synthesis methods have changed, and street MDMA is a mix of MDMA and various synthesis byproducts/impurities. Those byproducts have changed due to the changes in synthesis, and that may be a factor in what people are experiencing today re: diminished effects.
 
I was too young in the 90s, but I have had 100% pure MDMA (big purple rocks, delicious) before multiple times from a top secret source and let me tell you: NOTHING found commonly comes even close. Cleanest high ever, minimal come down effects etc etc. I wish I could still get this!
 
I took my first pill in early 1990 and raved pretty hard for the next 15 or so years. I'm convinced that the best pills back then contained a combination of MDMA and MDA.

Last year I went to Ibiza and ate a trip and a silver bar as I walked into Pacha. The buzz and the night were as good as any I can remember. Up there with the best nights ever. 30 years later. The drugs still work.
 
Try upping your dose? I think the roll is all the same no matter the time. It just depends on what you actually got, especially back then lol. Tolerance makes things even murkier, and I bet the first few rolls were the best.
 
I think its mostly nostalgia really. Most people who rolled in the 90s are probably in their forties or fifties now and tend to look back in their youth and see things a little better than they actually were.
The other thing is that back in the 90's we were getting "ecstasy " which usually was mdma mixed with something else but nowadays what you buy is usually just mdma by itself. So obviously you will get a different effect.
 
There's no evidence of MDMA being "worse" today, it's probably just due to the neurotoxicity induced by it.
 
This would be a fair comment if older users never got product that they thought was good. I've had excellent product twice this century. But at least I know it still exists.

Your argument just doesn't stand up...
Indeed. I was firmly in the camp of "MDMA doesn't change, I've changed" for years, until I ran into a specific batch of completely unknown pills a few years ago and the effects of when I first started taking MDMA were back exactly as I remembered them. All other parameters were the same, nothing was different in set, setting, dose, diet or any other factor and I haven't experienced it again since that night, still with all parameters the same. What further strengthened my suspicion something was up was when I rang up my dealer the next day and offered to buy his entire supply at once. He refused, said that these pills took him back to when he started using MDMA and that he wouldn't let them go for all the money in the world, he had been looking for years for that old-school effect. I can't talk about prices but let's just say I offered him more and more up to 10x (!!) the going rate for a pill even and he still refused. I couldn't believe it, he is a businessman first and foremost and could have made a killing selling these to me, and still he refused because he felt exactly the same about these pills as I did. I was gravely disappointed but understood completely, I would have done the same. He didn't sell a single one of them after he took them himself. I would have drained my bank account to be able to buy them all. That was the moment I realized something was up and the feeling I had been longing for and thought was lost to me was in fact lost due to something with the drugs themselves

I even made a report about these pills, here, you can clearly see echoed what has been said about the effects of "magic MDMA" in my recounting of them there, including the difference in physical effects compared to the 'mainstream' MDMA quality. Now reading that report again I still get goosebumps when I think back on that night. Pure bliss, *sigh*
 
This would be a fair comment if older users never got product that they thought was good. I've had excellent product twice this century. But at least I know it still exists.

Your argument just doesn't stand up...
Just because it's still possible to walk after a gunfight doesn't mean that gunfights don't have a massive chance of leaving you dead.
 
Just that.
If you can still occasionally enjoy MDMA, doesn't mean that you haven't been impacted by it's neurotoxicity, and thus have a reason to think that modern MDMA is worse.
 
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