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Am I Gay?

Atelier3 said:
We're all a little bit gay. Sexuality is actually a spectrum.
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Is it?- how do you know sexuality is a spectrum? You state that with great authority?

I've had gay friends who would rather eat shit than be sexual with the opposite sex. Same (obviously opposite way round) with straight friends who were most definitely without machismo issues and who were well in touch with their feminine side.

Some people are totes gay, others totes straight, plenty are at all points inbetween. It's just nonsense to think that the whole of the first two groups stated are in denial
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
Is it?- how do you know sexuality is a spectrum? You state that with great authority?

I've had gay friends who would rather eat shit than be sexual with the opposite sex. Same (obviously opposite way round) with straight friends who were most definitely without machismo issues and who were well in touch with their feminine side.

Some people are totes gay, others totes straight, plenty are at all points inbetween. It's just nonsense to think that the whole of the first two groups stated are in denial
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Everything on the spectrum of human experience is a spectrum, there are no real black and whites in real life. Actually let me rephrase that - everything in the spectrum of human psychology is shades of grey. There are obviously black and whites like someone having arms - OR NOT - or having a Y chromosome, OR NOT.

Sexuality however is not nearly so concrete, and I'm curious why anyone would try to insist that it is. The obvious challenge to this claim is that it's quite possible for a man to look convincingly enough like a woman that they are attractive to otherwise straight men, and vice versa.

There is no-one who is so "totes straight" that they couldn't be "fooled" into being attracted to someone other than their preferred gender, and anyone who claims otherwise, is, IMO, somewhat in denial, perhaps about their own sexual preferences. 😉
 
Vastness said:
Everything on the spectrum of human experience is a spectrum, there are no real black and whites in real life. Actually let me rephrase that - everything in the spectrum of human psychology is shades of grey. There are obviously black and whites like someone having arms - OR NOT - or having a Y chromosome, OR NOT.

Sexuality however is not nearly so concrete, and I'm curious why anyone would try to insist that it is. The obvious challenge to this claim is that it's quite possible for a man to look convincingly enough like a woman that they are attractive to otherwise straight men, and vice versa.

There is no-one who is so "totes straight" that they couldn't be "fooled" into being attracted to someone other than their preferred gender, and anyone who claims otherwise, is, IMO, somewhat in denial, perhaps about their own sexual preferences. 😉
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was waiting for that very obvious reply and bingo

got nowt against gay, not in denial, gay mates/family - had a minor fool around with a guy even (at age 15) just to see (NAh THAT MEANS YOU GAY BRO, lol) which left me in no doubt whatsoever of my (oh so boring) straightness (when it comes to sex anyway)

also have some extremely liberal gay friends say exact same...some... not all

some are in denial mate, not 'all'...tis a spectrum after all :)
 
LOL, I confess, I was just curious if that would be inflammatory or not. 😁 However even though I don't really think you are in denial, I do think you're mistaken. For example, I would say that for a guy to fool around with a guy in most people's book would make one at least slightly gayer than someone who hadn't - although equally, to fantasise about the same having never actually done it would have some difference in sexual degree than someone who had fooled around once but never once thought about it again (not saying exactly how many degrees up or down, just that it makes a difference somewhere). Otherwise, how is it that you're quantifying gayness or straightness that makes it possible to be 100% of either?
 
^^ am sorry man, I haven't got the time or energy to engage with devil's advocators looking for reactions right now :cautious:

edit and my final post on this thread - have had the same discussion many times and genuinely bored with it as always ends up in semantics ...no offense anyone

I actually had the same-sex experience as a conscious exploration of the 'spectrum' theory, and my conclusion was that I am not at all gay, not even a sausage :) Cheers <3
 
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Everybody is a little bit gay. Some more than others. Im not about to judge, nor should it be judged at all if someone likes dick or vag, regardless of their downstairs mixup.

Im a middle aged straight man. But i dig watching trannies bang chicks. Fuck what anybody says, do what you like.

We aint nothin but mammals.
 
MidniteMedicineMan13 said:
Everybody is a little bit gay. Some more than others. Im not about to judge, nor should it be judged at all if someone likes dick or vag, regardless of their downstairs mixup.

Im a middle aged straight man. But i dig watching trannies bang chicks. Fuck what anybody says, do what you like.

We aint nothin but mammals.
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There we go again. Such certainty and authority! Are you everybody? No? So how the fuck do you know???? lol. So what if you like to watch trannies banging chicks? Does that make you gay? No.

I know I'm not a woman. I know I'm not paralised. I know I'm not a good swimmer. I know I'm not black. I know I'm not gay (although I think it would have been much easier to be, but that's another story)

And now I really am outta thread
 
schizopath said:
Only dumb fucks and closet gays judge an homosexual relation with men.
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aagh cannot seem to get outta here

Very good, very true schizopath

Just genuinely wondering why you posted that here though as cannot see any posts in this thread where anyone is judging homosexuality?
 
I ate bacon for breakfast this morning. And I liked it. Does that make me gay?

Answers, quickly, please.

Just kidding. Thread closed.

P.S. this is ridiculous and not thread-worthy IMO. Labels are just that; labels.
 
This is a convo I've had before here on BL , as to the question of a spectrum and all...

i Agree there is of course a spectrum, but in my mind that acknowledges there are two points on either end. If I denied the existence of absolute heterosexuality or absolute homosexuality, thats the same as saying bisexuals dont exist.

we are all different and should be accepted as is. If someone likes one thing, two things, all things, no things, one thing on Monday, another thing on Thursday, I think that's swell .
 
TY Captain.Heroin, I'll admit to feeling slightly butthurt at not being able to post my rebuttal. =D

@CFC - I'd say that asexuality would probably lie on a different axis of the spectrum to the homosexuality/heterosexuality axis, so, for example, 0 on the Y or sexuality axis would be asexual, and 100% would be, 100% sexual, whatever that is, and 0 on the X/heterosexuality axis would be the probably asymptotic 100% homosexual, and 100% would be the 100% heterosexual. ;)


ageingpartyfiend said:
^^ am sorry man, I haven't got the time or energy to engage with devil's advocators looking for reactions right now :cautious:

edit and my final post on this thread - have had the same discussion many times and genuinely bored with it as always ends up in semantics ...no offense anyone
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No worries, of course, although I wouldn't characterise my own contributions as that exactly, anymore than your own admission that you were waiting for a very obvious reply such as my own. ;)

I would say though that we are already discussing semantics - that seems self evident, since what's up for debate is the definition of what it is to be gay or straight.

If you're not interested in defining exactly what you mean by using these terms, then your position is as unchallengeable as it is meaningless. To clarify further - if you're not able to define what exactly "gay" means in this context ("I know I'm not gay"), or any other, then it's hard to see by what criteria you are evaluating this claim. It's also hard for me to understand why you take such issue with any challenge to this position (not a challenge to your own sexual identity, mind - just a challenge to the idea that it's possible for anyone to be 100% of any given sexual orientation), while being happy to keep repeating it without clarifying your reasoning in any way.
 
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