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Dissociatives The Big and Dandy 3-MeO-2-oxo-PCPr (MXPr) Thread

Asante said:
Christopher Michael Langan (IQ 190-210) has a theory of Everything, where the universe consists of consciousness, that consciousness is a fundamental property of energy and that the universe basically is self-writing code. Look up his CTMU (Cognitive Theoretic Model of the Universe), its compelling.
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I have it bookmarked. I didnt sleep last night as I plugged 100mg of meth yesterday afternoon. So I'm pretty tired and brain dead today. Looking forward to bedtime! I'll check it out tomorrow though :) Thanks!
 
I don't like comparing it to MXE, because MXPr is it's own thing, but there is a striking resemblance between the two. There's definitely a resonant frequency with the body-high of MXPr compared to MXE.

I think MXPr has a bit less peripheral side-effects, compared to the elevated body temperature and diaphoresis that was often present with MXE for me. Overall, there's less body temperature fluctuation, but MXPr is still a warm disso. The body feels weightless and dexterous on it, this one would be great for hiking.

Potency-wise it doesn't seem much less than MXE. But I haven't used any dissociatives in 2 months (discounting my perennial tolerance).

I was able to hole on it and it was a rather introspective hole, contemplating things like the emergence of spacetime. The analytical mind remains sharp with this one, just like with MXE and ketamine.

Music appreciation is accounted for with this one. Visually it's beautiful as well, the pastels that are present with MXE and DCK but which ketamine lacks.

Took a dose this morning and social interaction with the barista this morning was effortless. I can't remember the last time I felt so suave. This could be a real winner for social situations.

I really haven't enjoyed a dissociative this much since the first time MXE clicked with me.
 
I'm just waiting for it to show up on the darkweb markets since all the clearnet chem suppliers I've found don't ship to the USA. Hopefully, the price will come down soon and it won't get banned for at least a year. I really wish I had secured more MXE while it was cheap and plentiful, but it was a chaotic time in my life.
 
my mxpr is totaly inactive...i scammed by 3 another vendor in this month...i realy sad.:cry:
 
ecstacylover said:
I don't like comparing it to MXE, because MXPr is it's own thing, but there is a striking resemblance between the two. There's definitely a resonant frequency with the body-high of MXPr compared to MXE.

I think MXPr has a bit less peripheral side-effects, compared to the elevated body temperature and diaphoresis that was often present with MXE for me. Overall, there's less body temperature fluctuation, but MXPr is still a warm disso. The body feels weightless and dexterous on it, this one would be great for hiking.

Potency-wise it doesn't seem much less than MXE. But I haven't used any dissociatives in 2 months (discounting my perennial tolerance).

I was able to hole on it and it was a rather introspective hole, contemplating things like the emergence of spacetime. The analytical mind remains sharp with this one, just like with MXE and ketamine.

Music appreciation is accounted for with this one. Visually it's beautiful as well, the pastels that are present with MXE and DCK but which ketamine lacks.

Took a dose this morning and social interaction with the barista this morning was effortless. I can't remember the last time I felt so suave. This could be a real winner for social situations.

I really haven't enjoyed a dissociative this much since the first time MXE clicked with me.
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How much did you do when you holed? And which ROA?
 
tesseracts said:
I'm just waiting for it to show up on the darkweb markets since all the clearnet chem suppliers I've found don't ship to the USA. Hopefully, the price will come down soon and it won't get banned for at least a year. I really wish I had secured more MXE while it was cheap and plentiful, but it was a chaotic time in my life.
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Pretty sure my vendor is shipping USA since USA is not among ''Currently not shipping'' part of the site.
 
I would theorize that MX-propyl, being bulkier than MX-ethyl, introduces more clutter at the business end of the molecule, making it less metabolically acessible. If you were boosting doses of MXPr I would expect the duration of the main effect to escalate more strongly. PCE is more potent than PCPr, which is around the potency of PCP, so potency of MXPr will likely be somewhat more diminished. Both molecules will have good water solubility but MXPr will be a bit more lipophilic. I'd expect it to come on slower but stick around a bit longer.

This is purely looking at the molecule, basic application of principles, but it also seems to match what we are seeing so far in the Bluelight reports of the people ingesting it. So far the molecule appears to adhere to what one with common sense would expect of this molecule contrasted with its ethyl analog.

A fart of speculation: Sometimes propyl beats ethyl. In 2C-T-2 (ethyl) vs 2C-T-7 (propyl) we see a longer duration in the propyl, but also an attenuation of the side effects. of the Ethyl analog, and a subjectively more pleasant and "deep" experience owing to this swap of an ethyl for a propyl. MXPr is definitely its own thing, but what I'm saying: don't forget the possibility that MXPr might surpass the legendary MXE in positive traits. That Pug rather unfortunately had an MRI of the sphincter of his anus handed to him at just one 50mg plug more was a horrific experience for him but might point to that, when you start boosting MXPr, it might soon surpass the effects and usual intensity of MXE.

It might possibly be "even better than the real thing" in that it might be more intensely entheogenic in cumulated doses. So watch out particularly when adding multiple boosters, while initially weaker it might stick around the receptor more intensely if you persevere in redosing.

A plan is forming to obtain half a gram and to attempt to march to ground zero over the course of a two-day excursion, in plugged doses between 30 and 60mg. Up until 4 months ago this was common fare with pure MXE and amounts up to a gram have been processed this way.
 
ecstacylover said:
The body feels weightless and dexterous on it, this one would be great for hiking.
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This is one of the things I love about MXE that is pretty unique... it's wonky, but in moderate dosages I feel graceful, I am able to accomplish physical feats. Your mini-report makes me smile, knowing I will get to try it quite soon. :)

If anyone wants to submit an actual trip report, it would be much appreciated, because few exist and we should have some at Bluelight. You can post a trip report in the Trip Reports forum.

@PUGinaRUG That was a harrowing tale, but very well-written and descriptive and enjoyable to read. I'm hoping you can just copy and paste that into an official trip report. :)
 
My final thoughts;

I've done few tries so far, mixing it with other dissos, doing it after weed, trying different ROAs, plugging, sublingual, insufflation.

Last night I decided to do by itself. My stomach was empty. Plugged 60mg at around 12:05am.

Here's my final thought, either this is the weirdest drug I've ever tried or because it's new they need to improve and present a purer product.

The comeup was like in 20-30 minutes. High was exactly like MXE and I was back to baseline at 01:00am. Like totally normal, no dissociation.
I thought to myself "well, I guess this is the cocaine (low quality coke 😁) of dissos". How can it last this short?

I'm pretty sure most people got the same batch.
Let's say I have tolerance, but that short duration?

I don't know guys, i feel like this chem, which is the closest feeling to MXE so far, is like a 30 seconds sneak peak to a movie, and the movie is mxe or a proper disso.
 
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Now the first hole I didnt get too much from. I dont really remember it now... perhaps it got overshadowed. But this final hole I found myself in was totally terrifying. The best I can describe it is a feeling of being trapped in an infinite loop of reality. There was only me. I was alone, I was scared, I was everything, the universe, consciousness, God etc. I was compelled to 'spin' and keep this loop going round. All existence was, was this folding over, looping, and a garbled gibberish voice, echoing, and then a response to that voice, which was the same voice/sound. The loop repeating, looping, spinning... forever. I felt compelled to spin and repeat this sequence. This was what reality/consciousness/me was. All that it was. This never ending cycle from which I couldn't deviate or escape. I played my part in the loop. Its alI I could do... Just go along with this flow. Cycle of time, infinity, whatever. But I was trapped, alone and scared. This was all there was or ever would be. Time lost all meaning. I eventually came out of the M hole. First i saw whiteness and heard beeping, this quickly faded to my bedroom, to reality and as I would quickly learn; to a shitstorm of my own making. The first thing I see/comprehend is two paramedics towering over me and my bed, saying my name and asking me questions. The beeping I heard was their medical equipment.
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I can relate to this 100%, I've have had my fair share of nightmares on dissos (3-HO-PCP, DCK, O-PCE, but also MXE) resulting in ER visits and thousands of dollars of product lost... Your description of a "bad" hole is spot on, I haven't heard someone describe it so close to my own experience before.. the sense of reality closing in and locking you into some kind of claustrophobic limbo or distorting your perception beyond repair. An afterlife in such a place would be terrifying. Glad you made it out and hope you can make changes for the better going forward.

That being said, MXPr still intrigues me, hence why I've sought out this thread. Is the duration very short? I too would prefer to try something close to MXE, which I've had the least problems with and most blissful revelations.
 
FerroFibre said:
I can relate to this 100%, I've have had my fair share of nightmares on dissos (3-HO-PCP, DCK, O-PCE, but also MXE) resulting in ER visits and thousands of dollars of product lost... Your description of a "bad" hole is spot on, I haven't heard someone describe it so close to my own experience before.. the sense of reality closing in and locking you into some kind of claustrophobic limbo or distorting your perception beyond repair. An afterlife in such a place would be terrifying. Glad you made it out and hope you can make changes for the better going forward.

That being said, MXPr still intrigues me, hence why I've sought out this thread. Is the duration very short? I too would prefer to try something close to MXE, which I've had the least problems with and most blissful revelations.
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It's literally 30-40 minutes for me. Too short for the price range.
 
I wonder if these bad disso holes that are being described as being trapped in a loop are tapping into a fundamental level of consciousness or a processing level that is normally subconscious and not connected to memory. I've thought that consciousness must rely on feedback loops that stitch together past and future and create models of reality that can be used to predict cause and effect relationships, hence their survival value. Or, the feeling of being trapped in a repetitive loop could be just a random effect of messing with brain chemistry, who knows.
 
Anyone remember Steven King's short story The Jaunt that appeared in the Skeleton Crew anthology? The whole being trapped without a body for an eternity thing made me think of it.

Maybe that's why God created the Universe, he got bored floating around in an empty space for eternity...
 
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