can someone provide a link or quick rundown of the precautions/risks relevant using disassociatives like mxpr? like if someone who had only encountered k a few times in passing with someone else choosing their dose were to come across mxpr, they’d have near no idea what it is. because almost all info about it is framed for and from people with k/mxe experience.
what should a novice know?
thanks!
Dosage for dissos tends to last for quite a while, sometimes a year +, so don't abuse and build a huge tolerance.
There's various cognitive issues associated with heavy dissociative use, so don't be as liberal with usage as is possible with psychedelics. Psychosis and mania are possible as are general cognitive deficits. Where the line is seems to be different for different people. For example, I didn't experience any huge problems dosing MXE and 3-MEO-PCP 2-3x a week, sometimes 4x a week, for 6-9 months. But I imagine that's only because I was very conservative with dosing and using the minimum necessary. And, I could also be exaggerating my use. It certainly seemed like I was using that often. The possible mania is not to be exaggerated. Go look at the old MXE threads and 3-MEO-PCP threads during their peaks and you'll see tons of messiah complexes, universal insight/key to life moments, exclamatory statements about how much good and healing everyday disso use is facilitating for posters, etc.
Theoretically most dissos will cause bladder damage, but you'd likely have to be using tons for that to occur. The more potent the compound the less of a risk, as it seems to be associated with actual mass intake.
Dissos mix super well with psychedelics, but not all dissos with all psychedelics (for instance, O-PCE and LSD was terrible, waaay too much stimulation), so play around with it. Dissos are a great way to make psychs more approachable and easy - and also potentiate them. Be easy on dosage, the potentiation can be huge.
It's usually the case that oral ROA is the most full experience with dissos, plugging second, nasal last. People have different preferences, though. And of course, Ketamine doesn't play by this rule.
Lots of dissos take time to "get". For instance, I liked MXE a lot the first few times I used it, but I didn't really get it for like 6 months. And then something clicked and bam, a whole new level of amazingness. 3-MEO-PCP was the same for me.
Food usually tastes weird on them, not amazing like it does on psychs, try to plan your meals for while you're not high.
Things can get really "weird" on dissos. You may not have hyper self-consciousness around people with them like on psychs, but good luck trying to interact with anyone that isn't understanding. Words can be super hard as can just being in communication at all. The weirdness applies to the experience, too. That was an oft repeated phrase on MXE, "so weird". I can't really explain it more than that.
Usually dissos are best with low or no lights, light to no movement, and bassy downtempo/ambient music.
Light doses can be much different than what I've explained above, rather loosening you up a bit, making you more social, etc. but you have to play with it and see how you react to low doses. Don't take my word and low dose before a concert without knowing how it affects you.
I think that's what I have for now. Anyone have more that I haven't named?
