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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy Eticyclidone / 2‘-Oxo-PCE Thread

Acetylated said:
Following the tail end of a hexen binge, with some ethanol (vodka) ingested throughout, all totaling no more than maybe 3 shots, unmeasured doses of O-PCE caused a series of full body seizures. Will link to more detailed post shortly. Careful!

I have NO history of seizures except on high doses of dissoc

edit: http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...lly-O-PCE-Diphenidine?p=14225402#post14225402
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Very interesting, I didn't even know dissociative induced seizures are a thing.

It's even more surprising that it would happen while you are on a GABAergic drug like ethanol. Then again... Ethanol, too, is an NMDA antagonist.

If I was you and if this had been my first seizure I would clearly blame Hexen for the event. It's what stimulants do. Few cocaine or meth users whoo IV or inhale their drug of choice have never had or at least witnessed a full-blown tonic clonic seizure.
 
I agree. It was most likely the sleep deprived state with the ingestion of seizure reducer that caused the seizure. Ethanol isn't like benzos because of its dirty pharmacology plus I don't believe it activates gaba receptors like bzds do. Not to mention its quick elimination from the body...
 
Help?!?! said:
I agree. It was most likely the sleep deprived state with the ingestion of seizure reducer that caused the seizure. Ethanol isn't like benzos because of its dirty pharmacology plus I don't believe it activates gaba receptors like bzds do. Not to mention its quick elimination from the body...
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Not like benzodiazepines, but it has been shown to increase seizure threshold in mice, especially when combined with seizure inducing drugs, relative to their administration without ethanol.
 
I fucked up.

This last week, I binged on O pce and 3hoPCP, no more than 30mg Opce in one intake and 10mg of 3hoPCP. It was a very long time I didn't took a disso before that. I experienced some sort of bad trip (no dissociation but feeling very bad physically) at the end with tolerance.

Since sunday, I'm all fucked up, with increased tinnitus, feeling slowed down, some sort of depersonalization, headache, on/off strange sensation over the mouth, and more alarmingly sort of tingly feeling in low side of my body. Aside this kind of dp/dr, Ive nothing if I take diazepam. Since it's the first time Ive these symptom, I'm scared that they will not go away and that's my new state of being.

Am I fucked forever ?

Ill not take disso anymore, too dangerous, Ill stick to 5ht2a psyche.

note : 3hoPCP is a fucking good drug, even better than 0pce imo. This have been confirmed by a friend who tested these stuff with myself and is absolutely not versed into RC.
 
No you're not fucked up forever, you just overdid it. Dissociatives are known for causing tinnitus. It's only been a few days it sounds like, just give yourself time to recover. No drugs, etc. Including no weed.
 
strange sensation over the mouth and tingling scare the shit out of myself, I'm fearing excitotoxic damage. Tingling stay in my comprehension a proof of neurological insult.

The trip was really bad, I was feeling like there was a periodic wowowowowowo inside my body. Seriously I feel fucked. Ive no emotion anymore. Currently fearing for the rest of my life.

This never hapenned previously with disso, I was thinking in fact it was a quite benign substance while you don't overdo it (I don't think Ive that overdone it, I took it 4 day on 1 week, never exceding 20 or 30 mg a day)

omg

Obviously Ill no take any drugs aside my treatment wich is subutex.


What make me a bit bad is that dissociative hangover never took more than 1 day to clear for myself...
 
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Obsessive fear can cause all sorts of issues... when you believe you're permanently damaged, you can end up feeling permanently damaged. The mind is a powerful thing. Please do your best to try to chill out and let things come as they will. Chronic anxiety actually causes health problems but it's a state of mind that you can decide to not participate in.
 
After effects if you ask me. These PCP analogues can linger around for some time. What Xorkoth said^ - Try to keep your cool.
 
got some dck from a (fairly) reputable and well known source, and this stuff was not dck (at least not alone)

the effects are very close, aside from dck having a deeper couch lock, and this batch being active at 5mg. 20mg is a complete hole dose, and i would not be able to tell the difference between the hole states of each. 25mg prolongs the hole, but REALLY prolongs the comedown (to the point of drawn out discomfort and a lack of satisfactory cognitive ability)

i perfer deschloroketamine, while my partner prefers this batch (doesnt make her throw up from dizziness like dck does... i like the dizzies i get from it)

im wondering if there is anything this could be besides o-pce... my first guess was that it is a mix of opce and opcm, but theres a lot of online chatter about what presumably is this same batch of ultra-potency dck, and the general consensus seems to be mislabeled opce.

any input? i am willing to move on from dck (cause this stuff stacks so well with other dissos anyway, i dont think id miss it) for my partner's health, but i want to be sure i can get this stuff again.

thanks for any help
 
A lot of the DCK going around right now is o-pce. There was a batch tested by Hamilton recently which proved this. It?s talked about a lot on reddit, I?ll see if I can find relevant links when I?m on my computer.
The o-pce batch looks different then DCK I?ve had. The o-pce is is smaller clear white crystals while DCK seems to be large chunks of tan crystal, similar to ?moonrock? MDMA.
 
ive had the big chunky rocky tan dck, and ive had plain white powder dck,

reading through this, everyone was talking about snorting o-pce, and i realized that ive never tried snorting this mystery batch (i rarely, if ever, snort my dissociatives).

came up in half the time, and although it was nothing like 'psychedelic cocaine', i will say that there was some (possibly psychosomatic) numbing of the gumming, and i was quite talkative.

insufflation lasts just as long (overall, including the dumbed down taildrag of a comedown, which i hate), except the peak was over in barely any time, solidifying my impression of snorting ACHs as being pointless ('cept good ol' k, of course)
 
Hey, quick question. I've tried searching the web, but was unable to get any info.
I searched through BL threads as well.

Can anyone tell me the boiling point of O-PCE Hcl?
Is O-PCE soluble in Propylene Glycol?

Please excuse my brevity, and any crappy formatting, I'm using my phone at the moment.

Kind regards,
Mude
 
no_id said:
I fucked up.

This last week, I binged on O pce and 3hoPCP, no more than 30mg Opce in one intake and 10mg of 3hoPCP. It was a very long time I didn't took a disso before that. I experienced some sort of bad trip (no dissociation but feeling very bad physically) at the end with tolerance.

Since sunday, I'm all fucked up, with increased tinnitus, feeling slowed down, some sort of depersonalization, headache, on/off strange sensation over the mouth, and more alarmingly sort of tingly feeling in low side of my body. Aside this kind of dp/dr, Ive nothing if I take diazepam. Since it's the first time Ive these symptom, I'm scared that they will not go away and that's my new state of being.

Am I fucked forever ?

Ill not take disso anymore, too dangerous, Ill stick to 5ht2a psyche.

note : 3hoPCP is a fucking good drug, even better than 0pce imo. This have been confirmed by a friend who tested these stuff with myself and is absolutely not versed into RC.
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no_id said:
strange sensation over the mouth and tingling scare the shit out of myself, I'm fearing excitotoxic damage. Tingling stay in my comprehension a proof of neurological insult.

The trip was really bad, I was feeling like there was a periodic wowowowowowo inside my body. Seriously I feel fucked. Ive no emotion anymore. Currently fearing for the rest of my life.

This never hapenned previously with disso, I was thinking in fact it was a quite benign substance while you don't overdo it (I don't think Ive that overdone it, I took it 4 day on 1 week, never exceding 20 or 30 mg a day)

omg

Obviously Ill no take any drugs aside my treatment wich is subutex.


What make me a bit bad is that dissociative hangover never took more than 1 day to clear for myself...
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End of this story & more detail about it :

"End of the story : I stopped using drugs aside subutex (4mg a day) after 2 week after this post (I binged a stim on these 2 week). I'm back to normal, aside the lack of emotion due to subutex (wich fade when I reduce my dose or when I'm not high anymore hours after the intake).
I think the lack of emotion was due to too much subutex, I was taking 8->16mg at these time. Since I reduced things got way better. I don't know what is attributable to Subutex (as I know it do bad things for me, Ive even needed to stop working for tapering) and to O-pce. I know that when I was firstly at 4mg months ago, if I tested 8mg at these time, I felt like junk, detached, strange. But tingling was due to O-pce, I'm 100% sure. It got better then finally stopped."

https://www.reddit.com/r/NovelDissos/comments/7s8g8c/a_bit_fucked_by_opce/


Honestly Ive even forgotten completely about that last month, even thinking that it would be cool idea to order a dissociative (my mind don't registrate negative experience in a normal way as I'm bipolar III). I'm fully back to my previous self. Finding back these post made me hesitate.
 
no_id said:
Honestly Ive even forgotten completely about that last month, even thinking that it would be cool idea to order a dissociative (my mind don't registrate negative experience in a normal way as I'm bipolar III).
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I think remembering only the good parts of past drug use is a normal sign of addictive tendencies/addiction, it's why people relapse after they quit things.

In any case I'm glad to hear that you're doing well. :)
 
Mude said:
Hey, quick question. I've tried searching the web, but was unable to get any info.
I searched through BL threads as well.

Can anyone tell me the boiling point of O-PCE Hcl?
Is O-PCE soluble in Propylene Glycol?

Please excuse my brevity, and any crappy formatting, I'm using my phone at the moment.

Kind regards,
Mude
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Why do you want to know this? There may be better ways to approach whatever you're doing, if you care to elaborate.

O-PCE HCl is a solid at room temperature and will first have a melting point, which is already quite high. Like with ketamine and MXE it should be expected that thermal decomposition already occurs at that point, and toxic fumes are produced by this.

I assume you want to vape it... it should work just like it apparently does with K and DCK and use of PG appears to be a bit better, but you should expect some buildup of residu on your coil / wick considering decomposition and of course the toxic fumes are a problem. Neither of these things are likely to be immediately apparent if you were to try but you should definitely expect them.
 
Xorkoth said:
No you're not fucked up forever, you just overdid it. Dissociatives are known for causing tinnitus. It's only been a few days it sounds like, just give yourself time to recover. No drugs, etc. Including no weed.
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The way I think about it, is that I've always had tinnitus but never really noticed before intense dissociation. Brings you right back to the mother note - a single pitch. The highest and lowest pitch at once. I associate the sound with serenity and have learned to love it.
 
Dissos give me tinnitus too. 3-HO-PCP does it the most of any I've tried. But yeah, any time it's quiet I notice it, always have. If I concentrate I can even hear it faintly right now through the keyboard noises as I type.
 
I'm not a believer in clinical ADHD, but even low doses of this one morph myself into the most unfocused bundle of energy for at least 24h after intake. Hate that. May be coincidence, though.
 
Tried this substance for the first time. Did 20mg, followed by 10mg, followed by 20mg over 5 hours and went straight through a hole. To the people who say they don't hole on this, I can't imagine it because this is a hole drug. Maybe our definition of hole isn't solid, but my entire universe sort of flipped inside out as i titrated up to 50mg. I assume 30mg oral would be my hole dose with this. It's a short hole, and the after effects are long (12-24 hours). Probably not the best before bedtime. I will experiment with it more in terms of low dose stacking/A-D quality and see what happens after a few days. Definitely not going to stack this one through the vast expanses of spacetime to the origin of existence like i did with 3-meo-pcp, I think o-pce will sit one on his ass a lot faster than 3-meo-pcp will. This stuff is more like, strap in and hang on and don't forget me anytime soon!

It is refreshing to have more of a 'normal' dissociative around. 3-meo-pcp is in a league of its own and I probably got everything and more out of it than a person ever could. This o-pce is just what I needed for now, but it's warm disso rush has me dreaming of a good batch of DCK.

O-PCE me of a drug that lies between the heavy stoning of K and the white-washing of MXE, with none of the visceral face-melting wrath of 3-meo-pcp. Fun, intense stuff.

Side note: 10mg of this stuff politely escorts the entire contents of my bowels to the door. Not typical of dissociatives for me, but surely adds a welcomed bonus.
 
I have a batch of what might be this or might be O-PCM or might be a bit of both (probably the same batch as mentioned upthread). I haven't sampled it, and don't have any batches of known O-PCE or O-PCM to compare it to (nor am I going to go out and acquire any without knowing what I already have). Is there a reagent test that will neatly tell the difference between the two?
 
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