Much, much deeper. I've done a lot of dissociatives in excess and the only ones that get me deeper are the phenidines. It's not as easy to get it right wtih this one though though, not as easy as it is with ketamine. I'm entirely satisfied with one successful experience every now and then, easily makes up for all the lackluster ones.Think this on the goes deeper than MXE and 3-meo-pcp