☮ Social ☮ PD Social Distancing Tripping Thread: Viruses Can't Penetrate Hyperspace

[perpetualdawn]

That was really crazy btw that you left finger indentations in the wood.

 

[Xorkoth]

Yeah I couldn't believe it the next morning. My ex was like, dude, I've never seen anything like that, it scared the shit out of me.

 

[Xorkoth]

Just got 15 x 1.4mg DOB blotters from the nice postman. I've always wanted to give DOB an honest try, I tried it once at like 1.5mg or something (I had one blotter), but I had so much tolerance then it was barely threshold. I love DOC very much, and DOB has, from the reports, always seemed like its more psychedelic, more edgy cousin. Pretty pumped, maybe I'll give it a try next time I would take DOC.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

Just got 15 x 1.4mg DOB blotters from the nice postman. I've always wanted to give DOB an honest try, I tried it once at like 1.5mg or something (I had one blotter), but I had so much tolerance then it was barely threshold. I love DOC very much, and DOB has, from the reports, always seemed like its more psychedelic, more edgy cousin. Pretty pumped, maybe I'll give it a try next time I would take DOC.

Woah, that's pretty neat.

 

[vortech]

I'm planning on a Fryence Psyday today, because its Fryday, naturally, and we are gonna rock some majickal psy-ences.

 

[Solipsis]

I rejected an offer for some free DOB in a trade of seeds and stuff recently, tried it twice in my life both on the same local holiday and that was enough... I do like DOC but I don't even think I would be interested in trying DOI - am interested to try DOM but I read a pretty discouraging report from someone who really regretted it and got problems from it.... if I try it I will probably start quite quite low. And ideally I would want to recalibrate my good lab scale to make it absolutely reliable. Would use volumetric measurement anyway which can soften the problem but still..

Instead Xorky has a real appetite for DOX i wish i had that sort of. Have fun man!

Yeah adrenaline and other fight-or-flight mode aspects can really boost your strength and enable you to do extraordinary things, and there is also what I call retard strength (sorry) which I am sure has to do with some lack of inhibitions to indeed cross your limits. But yes I also agree that going over those limits makes it rather likely that you will injure yourself. At times I have been able to muster it and can sometimes be stronger than I'm supposed to be. But I do in general fear that I will have a terrible old age because I often behave neglectful to comfortable positions or poses for my body and would say that the way I move can be strange...

If I were to trip again this week it would probably be something casual like some combo of halogenated 2C-X, tomorrow so that I have a day after before having responsibilities again - moved this up because I am filling my weekly schedule to reintegrate towards a traineeship... meanwhile i might do Arduino-y things at the art academy to expand the possibilities for artists and do volunteering work for a non-profit organization for community activities growing Oyster mushrooms... :D

Also I just think I should have less free time, it's not healthy for me - then I drink more and smoke weed..

My indoor garden has proven to be difficult, got various problems from too little ventilation on one level, not that easy to get conditions right in such a unit. And I really want to have my plants healthy when I start trying to grow E. Novo's (better adaptable and more potent brother of coca) from berries soon, which can be a challenge... don't want to infect those young seedlings from problems other plants have... although I will keep them isolated in a separate room with no other plants...

 

[psy997]

Yeah I violate Newton's laws all the time, to me they're more like guidelines.

Two acid trips back, well actually ALD-52 I think, I turned on the sink in my bathroom and watched absolutely flabbergasted as the water paused for a split second about 1-1.5" below the faucet before continuing down normally. I couldn't contain myself for the rest of the trip. As crazy as it sounds, I know it wasn't just a hallucination, this reality can get real funky sometimes.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

1A-LSD is either very potent or advertised acid dosages are low as fuck. I've had some of the strongest of visual experiences with 1A. Hell, the first time I tried it, I took 250ug and watched a bunch of rednecks chasing birds up and down the beach in their trucks with all these crazy LED colorful lights all over them. They'd light up the bridge and horizon in crazy ways when they crossed it too. Never have I seen so much color.

 

[psy997]

I think it's the latter. I got some confirmed 100ug blotters of LSD recently and they were muuuuch stronger than expected or any "100ug" or "125ug" blotter I've had before.

 

[vortech]

Two acid trips back, well actually ALD-52 I think, I turned on the sink in my bathroom and watched absolutely flabbergasted as the water paused for a split second about 1-1.5" below the faucet before continuing down normally. I couldn't contain myself for the rest of the trip. As crazy as it sounds, I know it wasn't just a hallucination, this reality can get real funky sometimes.

After those kinds of things happen...especially repeatedly, I feel as if my greater purpose in life is to somehow explain the phenomenology beyond pseudo-newage-Deepok-Chopra-style-quantum-consciousness woo that gets dismissed by mainstream science. These days for me...Timing.Is.Everything. Studying the timing of events, alignments of events, is a way to crack open deeper levels outside of our normal awareness. I'm working on a multi-pronged series of 'inquiries' for my synchronicity book. Giving myself a due date of the end of 2018....there's a lot of work to do, but hopefully by the end I'll have a somewhat decent explanation for the shit we experience when we are tripping, in addition to all the crazy shit that happens when we ain't even tripping.

 

[Xorkoth]

I rejected an offer for some free DOB in a trade of seeds and stuff recently, tried it twice in my life both on the same local holiday and that was enough... I do like DOC but I don't even think I would be interested in trying DOI - am interested to try DOM but I read a pretty discouraging report from someone who really regretted it and got problems from it.... if I try it I will probably start quite quite low. And ideally I would want to recalibrate my good lab scale to make it absolutely reliable. Would use volumetric measurement anyway which can soften the problem but still..

Instead Xorky has a real appetite for DOX i wish i had that sort of. Have fun man!

Yeah I didn't like DOI, it was very stimulating first of all, studding chest style, and it has the same sort of semi-psychedelic semi-psychotic headspace that @C-I has... like 2C-I is really fun and feels good, but I have pusahed the dose and I basically feel like I'm temporarily insane, which is a fun feeling because I know it will wear off, but it's not really a useful state and can get hectic. DOI has the same thing for me, except it lasts a long time and the body feeling is quite neutral. Not a drug with very redeeming qualities IMO.

DOC is indeed an incredible drug, it has it all, for me. Mentally psychedelic in a grounded way, focus, ease of movement and communication, quite visual, and euphoric, at times very euphoric. DOM sounds really neat, I have never really gotten the full development of effects on it yet but I hope to try it again soon and since I don't have tolerance anymore, it should be a different story. DOB sounds great too but maybe kinda edgy compared to DOC, but from reports I have read, my impression is that DOB is more strongly psychedelic than DOC which interests me. Some of the DOB reports on Erowid are among my favorite trip reports I've ever read. DOET was a let-down, a very strange experience (I have a TR on it in the TR forum and on Erowid), definitely active, definitely a trip, but I can't even explain why it was a trip, it was kinda off-putting and strange. DOPr my one trial so far felt really top-notch, super chill, comfortable, not stimulating, with a euphoric body feeling like a warm pillow. My single DOiP trial so far was relatively stimulating but quite euphoric and there was some definitely content, mostly emotional opening/intensity. And DOF is probably only a simple stimulant, I've taken it at 1, 2, and 4mg, and no effects at all. Some literature I read recently said subjects were given 40mg and experienced some simple stimulation. Oh yeah, and DOT I tried once too, found it rather weird

So... yeah that's all my DOX experience. :D I am fascinating by them, I find their general effects profile quite desirable although the durations are a little long.

Yeah adrenaline and other fight-or-flight mode aspects can really boost your strength and enable you to do extraordinary things, and there is also what I call retard strength (sorry) which I am sure has to do with some lack of inhibitions to indeed cross your limits. But yes I also agree that going over those limits makes it rather likely that you will injure yourself. At times I have been able to muster it and can sometimes be stronger than I'm supposed to be. But I do in general fear that I will have a terrible old age because I often behave neglectful to comfortable positions or poses for my body and would say that the way I move can be strange...

Yeah I think we are unable to consciously override the "normal" maximums for our muscle strength... I was reading about it years ago and I remember reading that it only happens in full-on life or death adrenaline situations (or perceived life or death anyway).

Haha, the way you move is strange? I'd like to see it. I've been told the way I move is strange, I do a lot of full-body posing and I also run around like a child sometimes. I really like to try to touch everything and explore it not just with my eyes but with my sense of touch. I also frequently jump around and also balance on things. When I'm hanging out talking to people I might for example jump on a log and roll it back and forth and try to maintain total centeredness in my balance. When I talk on the phone, I have to pace in circles, and I try to put my feet in the same places each circle and I strongly prefer the total number of steps to be an even number.

I've got a strange brain but I wouldn't have it any other way. You might be a strange guy, but aren't we all in this little community? All the best people are strange. Being a unique individual is great, some people look at you weird, but who cares, their loss. I you just go through life unapologetically being you, and make decisions that are not hurting others, you'll get wherever you need to go.

1A-LSD is either very potent or advertised acid dosages are low as fuck. I've had some of the strongest of visual experiences with 1A. Hell, the first time I tried it, I took 250ug and watched a bunch of rednecks chasing birds up and down the beach in their trucks with all these crazy LED colorful lights all over them. They'd light up the bridge and horizon in crazy ways when they crossed it too. Never have I seen so much color.

I think it is very potent, for me it seems fully as potent as LSD. But yeah I also think that the doses advertised for LSD are hardly ever accurate. I got confirmed 115ug hits once, because I got them from my good friend who is good friends with the chemist and he got one of his analyzed and it was accurate. I remember a good while back some poster in here went through the trouble (which is awesome of him/her ) to send in a large variety of dark net blotters to be analyzed. They were being advertised as anywhere from 150ug to 250ug hits (he got samples from a variety of sources). The results were quite telling. Most were coming in at 40-80ug, some were above 100, there was one that was advertised as 150ug that actually was but every other one was well underdosed from advertised. I think street acid is the same way but probably even worse (maybe). Lots of typical street hits contain 40-60ug.

LSD is the easiest drug to rip people off on or pass as something else, unfortunately. You can give someone a piece of blotter that never even got LSD laid on it. No color, no taste, no smell, so how do you know without testing, but most casual users, especially outside of communities like this, are going to do that, or even know you CAN do that. Plus any substance potent enough to get an active dose on blotters can be passed off, and lots of people don't really know anything about drugs except for colloquial myths, so they wouldn't know that "if it's bitter, it's a spitter".

It's a damn shame because LSD is a wonderful drug. But it is really easy to pass either nothing or a different substance off as it, or at least to underdose it as a general practice. I see people posting on here all the time about their 600ug trips and shit, and in most cases I think it's actually way lower, because most people just accept what whoever sold it to them told them for the dose, and then say they're sure. And hence the idera is propagated.

 

[Solipsis]

Yeah I don't really mind the strangeness at all, mostly it just seems like it comes with all kinds of perks that are freeing... but as for isolating, I guess it is not the strangeness per se that puts distance to other people at all... but as soon as more than 2 people total are involved in a social situation for me, I get hyper-self-aware despite not *really* caring about what other people think... and I process the situation incredibly slowly, well in relative terms but that lag is enough to make every response I have to anything that is said or happening so delayed that it's practically useless to interject.

Causes me to feel like I live on an island where there is much ado and probably ways of feeling like I already have to do with much less than the average person's petty hang-ups (no offense to anyone but this feels obvious), some sorts of developments for me apparently went beyond those of plenty of retiring acquaintances, according to others... but on other fronts I should be happy if I can get past the childish phase and not in any free spiritual creative cute way but just the responsible hard-world shit. Utterly confusing.
My best hope is usually to get 'picked up' by currents that provide enough context for me to just 'do my thing'... other than that to capitalize on routines and some happy coincidences.

I thought I had come to terms with stuff but I think I am still not really accepting all the implications of where I'm at... all analogies I can come up with are basically about good things (giftedness) being rendered for a major part pointless if you miss the crucial element to bind together in a life. Like excellent analytic skills but the world feeling distressing / menacing because you can't really integrate chaos... that is just all a lot like being fortune's fool more than being average.

Lately I've been thinking a lot about simulation theory... like the idea that ours might be one of countless iterations for purposes as silly as recreation. Obviously first I contemplate the ethics of the suffering of countless [who the f can even answer whether on a massive and timeless scale this suffering could be worth it, development aside or for the sake of some later developments... then I think: in what kind of context would living my life be mostly interesting and hardly distressing for someone to simulate? If anything almost all of us would have to be extra's in such a simulation scenario in order for t simulators to understand global events so that an apocalypse can be averted.

@lsd: i realize how spoiled i am here, no defense... I mean: it's not available right now (first time in quite a while) but I am thankful I don't really have to be bothered with fake acid type shit really... I was pretty early to willingly ingest NBOMe's but I think I would otherwise have bought enough ID kits to make sure that I don't accidentally take them.
DOX might take longer, but I feel like I can sort of oversee what's going on with them if they are in fake acid. NBOMe's i am not sure and don't trust.

 

[Xorkoth]

The DOXs, especially DOC which was the main thing to sell as fake LSD back in the day if you recall, are really quite nice drugs. Of course you can't take too much, but they seem quite safe at regular recreational doses, and DOC for me is something I would choose over LSD sometimes (of course I also want to know what I'm taking, I wouldn't be pleased with being sold DOC as LSD), so at least there's a good drug in there. The NBOMes are fucked up because they kill some people and are generally quite dangerous, full agonists so they fuck with your tolerance a lot more, etc. I also thought it was fucked up when they used to put 5-MeO-AMT on blotters.

I really like your ruminations. I think it's awesome you have so many things you do and are interested in. I have always had that too, and I enjoyed doing many things and tried to "be" a few different things (a writer and a a freelance computer programmer). Music ended up being the thing I rediscovered that did the most towards making me feel like I belong and like I am doing what I really, really want to be doing. It makes me more confident in myself and that carries forward in other areas of my life too such as being comfortable socially. I also took that earlier love, programming, and got a really sweet job setup which helps me a whole lot obviously because I don't have to be stressed about money all the time. Even though I didn't play music for 12 years because of exploring other things and just generally being overwhelmed, I found it again and I've changed a lot since then, in many ways because of my experience immersing into musical effort and turning into a musician, it's been deeply rewarding and amazing.

I realize I am not anywhere on the autism spectrum so I don't know what it's like to be you, I can imagine maybe it makes socializing more difficult or intense? Anyway just investigate things you really like and are good at and see if any of them really light your fire. I really feel like it adds so much to your life when you have a thing like that.

Just some high thoughts, I may have rambled all over the place, I can't tell.

 

[cj187]

Holy fuck! I just got back from the DPT universe. I've never experienced anything like what I just went through. I had a breakthrough trip on DPT once before, but my experience this time was even more complex and more visual. DPT is a truly special chemical.

 

[Xorkoth]

Nice, I have yet to try it, but I will... sometime.

It's my birfday today! I'm gonna treat myself to a psychedelic, either LSD or maybe DOC... then later on I'm going to the band house to both do some birthday jams, and also hopefully put down the rest of my overdubs for our first EP.

 

[perpetualdawn]

Happy birthday Xorkoth!

That's cool cj187 - what was the breakthrough DPT like? It's been ages since I touched mine.

 

[Xorkoth]

Thanks!

Well I decided on AMT, just took 85mg of the fumarate (which is equivalent to a little over 50mg of freebase), about 15 minutes ago. I love AMT, it's one of the most euphoric and peaceful drugs I know of. Takes a long time to come up to that full-on level though which is why I took it now, so it will peak around when I go to play music. Also it doesn't make socializing or doing anything any harder, so it doesn't matter that I have 4 hours of work still. %)

I just finally got my new recorder, the Zoom H4n Pro, and I'm experimenting with it. Damn those microphones are good... for some reason though, when I try to record in from the output of my electric piano, the sound is awful. But I think it's actually maybe a problem with the output jack on my piano. Which sucks. I wanted to be able to record that piano with a clean sound, which is a big part of the reason I even got it. I am going to experiment and see if my other electric keyboard at home sounds normal recorded with the line in, if so then I know I need to get my nice piano fixed. Recording through the mics sounds great, but the problem is, every tiny creak of my bench and shit like that is clearly audible too. It even picks up me breathing while I'm playing loudly. Crazy mics...

Geez, already feeling the AMT a bit.

 

[perpetualdawn]

I've got an H5n, really good recorder. I think it's basically the same as the H4n (not sure about Pro) but better battery usage or something. Yeah I like the mics too. Haven't used it yet for line recording, so can't comment on that being an issue, but assume it would be solid so yeah maybe a problem on your epiano's output.

 

[vortech]

Happy be day Xorko! A poem,for you

A triple-sentence releaser is the muse I see, and you-knit-E, as in ecstasy, and everything

Many seeds already sown, soaked by tiny trickles of chi, and the 34th drop begins today

Tall trees grow around your space, waving in winds of Asheville grace

Is the title of 'Audio Medicine Technician' a thing? If not, let me be the first to say you earned your 34th degree in this figurative masonry

 

[Xorkoth]

Haha, nice. I feel bestowed with youthful linguistic vigor.

I figured it out, well for now, I had to turn the line in recording volume down to 2% (for some reason, that seems insanely low, but even at 10% it was clipping like crazy and at 3-5% it still was occasionally) for it to not break up. May be an issue with the piano line out on my instrument, not sure, but I got a good quality sound finally. And then played for a bit while coming up hard on AMT, I put it up too, thought I'd share.

[I'll replace the link sometime, made a throwaway account not linked to my band/real life]

Sound quality isn't as good as I'm used to but I think I just need to tweak it more. The notes I played the loudest sound about to break up sometimes. Also at the studio we have some really, really nice hardware. But more easily sharing stuff is the main reason I got this so here's the test run.

That took fucking forever to upload... 728MB. We record in 96K, 24 bit at the studio but I'm probably gonna do a lot less in the future for random at home recording because damn. The entire afternoon. Soundcloud uploads are so slow even if you pay for unlimited.