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I think he is a racist judging by the things he has said about Mexicans. Sessions is certainly a racist. No doubt about it at all. When you appoint an Alabama old boy who is on record saying he thought the Klan was ok till he heard they smoked pot and actively campaigned against and legally harrassed black people involved in organising other black people to vote...then you are certainly complicit in his racism

Yeah I forgot about the Mexican thing. Im gonna have to admit I am a little racist about certain people but I know my views are horrible and dont share them here. Not mexicans, they seem cool . I dont think trump is actually racist against mexicans though but his way of speaking makes him seem like it. Maybe he is just being an oaf to resonate with the public who are actually racist?
 
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Yeah I forgot about the Mexican thing. Im gonba have to admit I am a little racist about certain people but I know my views are horrible and dont share them here. I dont think trump is avtually racist against mexicans though but his way of speaking makes him seem like it.
Mmmm. Pretty sure if you say things like he does it is a good indication of ones thinking. People that are not racist simply dont say shit like that or appoint someone like Sessions to AG
 
I saw this press conference where a jewish reporter bloke stated not a single jew he knew thought Trump was anti semitic and he looked pleased but then they fought over some shit about Israel and how Trump hadnt backed Israel. But Trump hadnt said anything just because he just hadnt and didnt want to be told what to say by anyone. He acted like an idiot defending himself.

He needs to work on his communication skills and theres something in that for a lot of us.

Ok im going now. Cheers!!
 
You have to remember trump isn't a politician. Politicians are good at bullshitting and hiding things, trump just blurts things out.
 
Can you be more specific?
Im not playing dumb either its just that (first) Mexicans are not a race. And second he said "some".

tramp says

'Rapists'
-- "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. ... They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people," Trump said in his announcement speech. June 2015.

-- "I am personally offended by the mainstream media's attempt to distort my comments regarding Mexico and its great people," Trump said in the days after his announcement speech. "I have many successful business relationships with Mexican companies and employ and am close friends with many Mexican people. I also have tremendous respect for the leaders of Mexico, who, frankly, are much smarter and tougher than our politicians here in the United States." June 2015.

-- "Some are good and some are rapists and some are killers. We don't even know what we're getting," Trump said in an interview, further clarifying his initial remarks. June 2015.

Crass? Yes. Racist? Ehhh, no.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/31/politics/donald-trump-mexico-statements/

And I know others you can reference.... Saying there are some 'bad hombres" etc but does any of it imply the racial inferiority of the "race" of Mexicans? Im not reading that personally.

I think he is a racist judging by the things he has said about Mexicans. Sessions is certainly a racist. No doubt about it at all. When you appoint an Alabama old boy who is on record saying he thought the Klan was ok till he heard they smoked pot and actively campaigned against and legally harrassed black people involved in organising other black people to vote...then you are certainly complicit in his racism

Sessions record on the kkk is more complicated. I have little to no interest in dealing with sessions but....

http://www.weeklystandard.com/alaba...the-death-penalty-for-the-kkk/article/2006214

Article deals with session's prosecution of the kkk in which he sent a kkk member to death.
Also includes multiple links to articles that are unflattering to sessions and deals with that.

Nearly all of the allegations that Sessions is a racist stem from one man, Thomas Figures, who worked under him when Sessions was a U.S. Attorney in Alabama. On Monday, the Daily Beast rather sensationally revives accusations from Figures that Sessions initially tried to impede the U.S. Attorney's office from getting involved in the prosecution of Henry Hays, a member of the Ku Klux Klan who abducted and lynched a young black man, Michael Donald, in 1981. (Sessions has long disputed Figures's claims about the case.) This Atlantic piece on the Sessions controversy is chock full good reporting about the Donald lynching and even includes multiple paragraphs from sources who were involved crediting Sessions for helping the Hays prosecution to varying degrees. Nonetheless, the overall story is clearly contextualized to be unflattering to Sessions.
 
Uuuh...hello? I get called "rightey" all the time. ?. Or does one have to be a racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic basket of deplorable in order for *some* to see diversity from the strongly leaning far-left that....well...most of my friends here are. <3. Just saying...I took the position in an attempt to balance out CEP.

I dont really think of myself as *right*, just a humble "small l" libertarian with a belief that a strong economy with plenty of opportunity breeds a better society than cradle to grave govt nanny state.
 
In an unrelated thread....

he's been in office for about 100 days and has absolutely no major legislative accomplishments. he heavily criticised his predecessor for using executive orders to take action yet he's signed 32 orders in his first 100 days - more than any president since ww2. trump told us all he was a bigly deal maker who wouldn't need to rely on this tool for the weak...

As you no doubt know...Trump is the executive branch. We both can endlessly agree on the failures of the house and senate.

If it is the policy of the democrats to oppose EVERYTHING Tramp does....how can he make a deal? I dont think one can blame the president directly for this...other than to blame him for existing.

Im going to concede right now I do not have enough information on the executive orders to make any comment...but promise to revisit this with comments when I read further when my recreational reading time comes later this evening.

Watching the conference on the new tax plan and it sounds VERY sexy.
 
In an unrelated thread....



As you no doubt know...Trump is the executive branch. We both can endlessly agree on the failures of the house and senate.

If it is the policy of the democrats to oppose EVERYTHING Tramp does....how can he make a deal? I dont think one can blame the president directly for this...other than to blame him for existing.

Im going to concede right now I do not have enough information on the executive orders to make any comment...but promise to revisit this with comments when I read further when my recreational reading time comes later this evening.

Watching the conference on the new tax plan and it sounds VERY sexy.
It was the policy of the Republican party to oppose everything Obama did the last 8 years.
 
That is true, the republicans maintained that it was improper for an outgoing president in their last year of office to select a nominee...for sure. So that's one; and a controversial move indeed. However, blocks everything for eight years it makes not.


l'll cite the following article as an informative read full of examples of all they blocked the seven years preceding your example.

Republicans, I’m told, were elected to Congress by the people, and yet they’ve done absolutely nothing. This indictment has now mutated into “Republicans gave President Obama everything he wanted,” i.e., the GOP and Obama were basically colluding against the American voter this whole time.

Republicans have been dreadful on plenty of fronts — the quality of their advocacy, the spine they show making arguments, and the lack of innovation and malleability in the focus of their policies, to name a very few — but resistance to Obama’s legislative agenda was definitely not one of them. If Republicans had capitulated in the way the average angry populist claims, Obama would not have needed to enact some of the most consequential abuses of executive power since World War II.

Some of this anger is propelled by false expectations and wishful thinking about how government works — which is to say, when voters don’t get what they want they assume the system has failed. On one hand, voters are under the impression that presidents should be able to craft law and policy and make everything great again; and on the other, they are angered about the ineffectiveness of the legislative branch. It all depends on which of these corresponds with their own political affiliation.

Read the examples @


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/434770/republican-congress-accomplished-more-you-think
 
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