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That article basically says the Republicans stopped Obama from implementing his agenda which is what i was saying. And isnt it the Presidents prerogative to appoint a Supreme Court Judge? When this occurs in his term should be irrelevant. Who decides when its not up to the sitting President?

Like it or not the Republicans were incredibly obstructionist and for them to cry the democrats are not being compliant is absolutely hilarious.
 
Not only a supreme court judge but hundreds of lower court positions too. Let's not forget the government shut down. What fucking balls to say the Republicans never stopped Obama from doing anything while the Democrats barely pretend to block anything and then get "this is the worst thing in the universe" thrown at them.
 
I posted the article because from the republican perspective...they hardly stopped anything from Obama's 8 years. The point of the article is to demonstrate that the rethuglicins refused to play ball on *some* issues...but not many. Moreover, the thuglicins had a WAY smaller portion of the house and senate than the dems have now so they were powerless to stop anything until osamas last 2 years.

So...to suggest the republicans did to obama what is now happening to trump is simply factually inaccurate. To suggest the republicans blocked EVERYTHING for 8 years is just....not supported by the facts.
 
We are. That happens, all presidents dont get all they want. More often than not, Obama got what he wanted. If you can show me where republicans blocked everything of Obama's...then to be sure some obnoxious conservative judges keep blocking his executive orders...like what is happening to Trump, Ill revisit this topic. Otherwise, my points and valid and stand.
 
You are comparing two things that aren't the same. The congress refused to even meet about anything Obama wanted which is why he had to use executive orders. Trump is just issuing executive orders because he wants to do things as fast as possible he has a majority in congress and hasn't even bothered working with them. The fact that judges keep striking down his executive orders isn't somebody stopping him from doing things it shows what an incredible imbecile he is, his orders are all unconstitutional unlike Obama who would work with a team of lawyers for months crafting his.
 
I posted the article because from the republican perspective...they hardly stopped anything from Obama's 8 years. The point of the article is to demonstrate that the rethuglicins refused to play ball on *some* issues...but not many. Moreover, the thuglicins had a WAY smaller portion of the house and senate than the dems have now so they were powerless to stop anything until osamas last 2 years.

So...to suggest the republicans did to obama what is now happening to trump is simply factually inaccurate. To suggest the republicans blocked EVERYTHING for 8 years is just....not supported by the facts.
Ok. I should not have used the word EVERYTHING earlier. But they were obstructionist in the extreme and to say they were not is being disingenuous.
Perhaps show us what they cooperated on.
 
They wouldn't even meet to vote on most of the things Obama wanted so you can't go by official numbers. The things they did pass where all neoliberal authoritarian stuff to enrich corporations stuff the Republican party loves (and the Democrats too but they at least try to hide it)
 
Does Trump even know what NAFTA is?

Sanger asked some very clear questions about how Trump would change or amend NAFTA, and as you can see from the rambling answers, Trump doesn’t have anything specific to offer in response. That may be because, in order to respond, he would need to have some idea of what’s in NAFTA, and it’s not at all clear that he does.
 
Wouldnt it be great if tax dollars that pay politicians was actually used to get shit done? They waste a lot of time arguing about how to spend tax money on shit but the amount of resources spent just stuffing around is ridiculous.

Why is it so hard for a government to just get on with it?

Theres no point starting a plan like medicare if its just going to be torn apart again.

Maybe it would be better to have a longer term like 6 years and what the party elected wants done gets done . If they fuck up and dont fulfill their promises in that time they are out and the other party gets in. If they do actually do what they say they would then they get another chance to have another term .

Same for the president. If hes doing alright let him have a third term ffs. If Obama had that option snd ran against Trump he could have won but maybe not.
 

i read that article. here's trump's response to the question "Would you pull out of Nafta?":

donald trump said:
If I don’t get a change, I would pull out of Nafta in a split second. Nafta is signed by Bill Clinton, perhaps the worst trade deal ever signed in the history of this country. It’s the worst trade deal ever signed in the history of this country and one of the worst trade deals ever signed anywhere in the world. Nafta is a disaster. You have to understand, I just campaigned, as you probably read, and I won all these states, and one of the reasons was because of Nafta. Because Nafta has drained manufacturing out of New York State, out of Pennsylvania, out of Ohio, out of so many different places. It’s drained. And these companies have gone to Mexico, and they’ve gone, they’ve left with the jobs. David, I have statisticians, and I know, like if I went to Pennsylvania, I say, “Give me the statistics on what is going on with respect to manufacturing.” Numbers — 45, 55, 65, I have states that are so bad. New England. Look at New England, what happened. Nafta has been a disaster for this country. And a disaster for the worker and Nafta is one of the reasons that, you know, there are people that haven’t had a wage increase 18 years in real wages. Actually, they’re lower, some are working two jobs, working much harder, then making less and they’re older. It’s supposed to work the opposite. You’re making more, you’re making more I hope.

look at this absolute peach: "...like if I went to Pennsylvania, I say, “Give me the statistics on what is going on with respect to manufacturing.” Numbers — 45, 55, 65, I have states that are so bad."

he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

this is the president who just said "This is more work than in my previous life. I thought it would be easier."

this is the guy we're not supposed to criticise? what a disaster.

alasdair
 
But, hey - don't worry - he's only talking about nuclear war as a distraction, hoping maybe for a little nip'n'tuck in his terminally saggy polls.

It's like a bad B-movie from the 50s, where some celebrity culture freakshow takes over the government, starts a new Arms Race, then eats us all.
 
They would have eyes all over North Korea and the capability to intercept it with a more advanced anti missile missile.
 
Its telling that Ryan points the finger at Russia but never at Nazi Germany. I saw in another thread he defended Goebbels and Goering. Pretty obvious he he is nazi fanboy
Bolsheviks were arguably worse than Nazi Germany. Just the amount of people they starved to death is more than the holocaust. Oh and I never defended Goebbels, I posted a quote of his regarding propaganda.

Weren't they fighting against Nazism?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/histor...deral-reserve-and-the-bank-of-england/5530318

Swillow what happened to not just banning people for their opinions.
I called Milo a gay jew. He literally is gay and jewish :\
 
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I called Milo a gay jew. He literally is gay and jewish :\

Lol.

I saw what you got reported for and anyone who would post what you did in that post would have got an infraction.


You obviously dont understand what you did wrong so I suggest you have a chat with whoever infracted you and keep asking until something sinks in.
 
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