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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy Eticyclidone / 2‘-Oxo-PCE Thread

MSK said:
I myself didn't enjoyed snorted route really. This one is a beast I'll keep tamed, and will only let it go wild with my mind orally those days I want to chase the paralel universes or when I feel I need to search the meaning of life.

3-MeO-PCP as refresher of the soul, orally, once a week. 2-oxo-PCE once monthly for knowing myself better, and digg into the core of the whole existence. I love 2016. Rest in peace, 3-MeO-2-oxo-PCE, I won't forget you... But I've got two girlfriends now, and they are better than you for my life
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I don't think there's any way MXE won't make a return. There's too much demand and it's not illegal everywhere. I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet honestly.
 
It's not a street drug (unlike mephedrone in the UK for example, which is why it's still available there) and banned in pretty much all countries. It won't return on a larger scale.

Have you tried 2'-Oxo-PCE yourself? It's MXE without the 3-methoxy group. Maybe you'll like it just as much. And in every case it's better than mourning over disappeared RCs lol.
 
I felt more burning sensations when sublingualing this one, than when snorting it. Anyone else?
I also see addiction-potential with it.
 
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Massive addiction potential. If I wasn't happy with my life I'd order 50 grams and waste away like I did years ago on MDPV (whatta bitch of a drug).

I say that for the nasal route. I feel the oral is more.... fulfilling.

I actually don't feel much burn at all. Just, like a tingling.
 
StMorningGlory said:
I saw someone else call it "psychedelic cocaine". I think that's an apt comparison for the nasal dosing. It reminds me more of pepper than a burn. Just a sneeze reaction that's hard to catch.

I am enjoying these few new RC's to hit the market. I wasn't into others as first but this, ALD-52, 1P and 3-meo-pce seem to be winners.
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Hahaha I call it psychedelic Cocaine a lot lol. I wonder how common a pseudonym that is.
 
psynce of sound said:
Hahaha I call it psychedelic Cocaine a lot lol. I wonder how common a pseudonym that is.
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I think it describes the nasal ROA in specific doses very well, but "psychedelic" and "cocaine" put together seems somewhat paradox. But it will make sense after making friends with 2'oxo
 
Hm, it is stimulating, but i don't feel much of a dopaminergic rush. A little bit maybe. For me it is more some kind of "dissociative ecstasy". But I think, this could also be just for me that case, the serotonergic component ist strong here, because i'm taking St. John's Wort. Instant Robo-Flip. Hopefully it is not neurotoxic like DXM + Ecstasy, but I see there are some parallels in effects and feeling...
 
Synthetic, it's super interesting you say that. I medically went off my Mirtazapine under a doctors care. I actually feel I've lost some of the Ecstasy feeling and am getting more a cold push (again akin to coke but less.... just less). Maybe you are onto something about the serotonin changes?
 
Synthetic_Night said:
Hm, it is stimulating, but i don't feel much of a dopaminergic rush. A little bit maybe. For me it is more some kind of "dissociative ecstasy". But I think, this could also be just for me that case, the serotonergic component ist strong here, because i'm taking St. John's Wort. Instant Robo-Flip. Hopefully it is not neurotoxic like DXM + Ecstasy, but I see there are some parallels in effects and feeling...
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The tests I made did not show o-pce to be very serotonergic. I think it may have reuptake inhibiting properties but I did not notice any kind of euphoric rush or something. It was more of a balanced plateau.. But this is just subjective.
 
Underachiever said:
I think it describes the nasal ROA in specific doses very well, but "psychedelic" and "cocaine" put together seems somewhat paradox. But it will make sense after making friends with 2'oxo
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I hear you on that man. Tbf it's the only way I can describe it to the people I know. As paradoxical as that description is.

I'm going to try this and it's cousin orally next time. I find the nasal ROA to be way too morish and thus I end up binging. With this beast that is a bad idea unless you enjoy days of uncomfortable dissociation. Not at all pleasant in the slightest.
 
psynce of sound said:
I hear you on that man. Tbf it's the only way I can describe it to the people I know. As paradoxical as that description is.

I'm going to try this and it's cousin orally next time. I find the nasal ROA to be way too morish and thus I end up binging. With this beast that is a bad idea unless you enjoy days of uncomfortable dissociation. Not at all pleasant in the slightest.
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You're right, this stuff will sooner or later lead to binges if used as "psychedelic cocaine". It also is hard to estimate how the effects will add up after redosing. I one snorted 5mg and waited for around 5 hours and then snorted another 5mg which made the high way more than the sum of ist products.
 
Let me just say, yes, yes it leads to binges. My one gf has now banned me from using it around her. (This was post the month test) Turns out testing can be addictive..... haha but I found it rather easy to walk away from with the use of psychedelics, unlike trying psychedelics after PCP, Ketamine or MXE for kicking.

Point is I find the binges aren't bad as long as you have mental cushion for the comeback.

Be safe.
 
In short, let's not water! Write the most worthy in your opinion dissociative after MXE.


IN my opinion its - DXE
 
I've contributed about 3 reports. 2 of them were rejected by the community for me putting subjective feeling in there, so I took them down. My one report is still up somewhere a few pages back. Like MSK and I were saying, it has that indescribable effect.

If I wasn't doing well in life, this could be the key to my failure. I won't credit my success to it. I found DXE (hate that name) to be a "fun drug"; not a novel compound like this.
 
I am today going to research how o-pce will interact with some codeine. I will stick to my maximum of 10mg throughout the day and will then consume about 150mg codeine later. ( I have low tolerance to both substances I guess, i had my last 150mg of codeine about 3 days ago, and my last o-pce 4 days ago and I did not use both long term and kept the doses at the same level). I have now consumed 5mg which brought the expected effects, maybe slightly weaker and I will see if I am going to consume further 5mg.
I will let yall know if youre interested.

Regards,

UA

As like with DXM, I will give it a while to be metabolized before I add the codeine
 
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No big synergy noted. Dissociation got stronger and I had a small panic once, where my heart rate went up. At all it was a cool night.
I am done with testing this chemical any further because I am afraid of side effects and addiction
 
Underachiever said:
No big synergy noted. Dissociation got stronger and I had a small panic once, where my heart rate went up. At all it was a cool night.
I am done with testing this chemical any further because I am afraid of side effects and addiction
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mh, I also thought it would not interact in a way, that other chemicals do. Stronger dissociation sounds nice, but overall it is nothing big I guess. I think Eticyclidone is not very addictive in comparison to MXE, I even think it healed me from my MXE craving. By now I tested it 4 times, ok, but at the moment I do really have no desire of do it again, especially when I think of the side effects. In 2 Weeks my St. Johns Wort reserve is empty, 2 weeks later I will test O-PCE again to see if it will have the serotonergic MDMA component I described earlier. I hope my blood pressure will stop to go up to valhalla with no AD's inside me. Normally I have pretty low blood pressures, but on O-PCE they are pretty high. Maybe also the damage on bladder and kidney comes from the high blood pressure I experienced. I also noticed, the damage on bladder is lesser pronounced as I took very low doses of Captopril (ACE-Inhibitor) on the trip of 20mg Eticyclidone. Maybe this is also important. These are just many many suggestions, but the substance has still indeed strong effects on mind and body.

Let's see where it will get us.
 
Synthetic_Night said:
mh, I also thought it would not interact in a way, that other chemicals do. Stronger dissociation sounds nice, but overall it is nothing big I guess. I think Eticyclidone is not very addictive in comparison to MXE, I even think it healed me from my MXE craving. By now I tested it 4 times, ok, but at the moment I do really have no desire of do it again, especially when I think of the side effects. In 2 Weeks my St. Johns Wort reserve is empty, 2 weeks later I will test O-PCE again to see if it will have the serotonergic MDMA component I described earlier. I hope my blood pressure will stop to go up to valhalla with no AD's inside me. Normally I have pretty low blood pressures, but on O-PCE they are pretty high. Maybe also the damage on bladder and kidney comes from the high blood pressure I experienced. I also noticed, the damage on bladder is lesser pronounced as I took very low doses of Captopril (ACE-Inhibitor) on the trip of 20mg Eticyclidone. Maybe this is also important. These are just many many suggestions, but the substance has still indeed strong effects on mind and body.

Let's see where it will get us.
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Keep us updated. Information on this one is rare.
 
I used this as a background for a group trip night.

The combos that were added were ald-52(taken right away, 250mcg), Methylone (60mg near the end to perk up), 5-meo-dmt (3 separate sessions of 10mg), bit of Diclazepam(a 2mg drink, I make sodas of them) for the end.

The only one that changed much was when the 5-meo-DMT was added. It seemed to bring me close to the oral main effects of the 40 mg O-PCE trip pervious. I feel like there is a distinct change in effect. Like being dropped into a controlled virtual reality, unlike 5-meo-DMT normally does to me when I have to just go with the flow.

My heart got up to 89 bpm, Oxygen levels never went below 97%. I was iffy about combos but this seems relatively safe in my body.
 
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