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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy ETH-LAD Thread

So I first tried a single 100 mcg blotter and was very underwhelmed. The day before yesterday I took 200 mcg, then when it hadn't hit an hour later I took 200 mics more for a total of 400.

Wow. I did not expect such a powerful and visual trip! I knew it was a high dose and I had a great time, but I wouldn't recommend dosing that high essentially the first time experiencing this chemical.

I will write a trip report eventually. I was surprised that I didn't lose my shit. It's been several years since I had LSD, this was a more manageable headspace and was extremely visual with lots of neon blues, pinks, and heavy tracers.

I have yet to try al-lad or 1p-LSD but I'm looking forward to it! It is cool to see how different this was from LSD and LSA.

I had dosed 35 mg of Insufflated 4-Aco-DMT some time before and it is such a contrast in character from this lysergamide.

9.5 out of 10

What's the highest dose of this that you all have tried, heard of?

P.S. I ate fried chicken in the middle of the trip. It was a transcendental experience.
 
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The only time I've tried this so far, I took 300ug all at once. I was also really surprised by how powerful it is. I found it significantly more visual than LSD, but the headspace, like you said, was much clearer and easier to navigate. I found the headspace similar to mescaline in some ways, I felt warm and open and quite serene, not a lot of mental chaos at all. Because of this I still prefer LSD for its ability to just be overwhelmingly mentally psychedelic, but ETH-LAD is a wonderful gem of its own.
 
Hoping to do some research soon looking forward to it! This chemical has been getting very positive reviews
 
Seen a few posts in multiple places indicated some bodyload, how would you guys say it was? Compared to other lysergimides was it particularly worse?
 
I did vomit. Heavy buzzing sensation, electric.... this is in comparison to 4-aco-DMT. I wasn't ready for that high of a dosage but handled it fine. It's not that bad actually.
 
mescaphysicality94 said:
Seen a few posts in multiple places indicated some bodyload, how would you guys say it was? Compared to other lysergimides was it particularly worse?
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One of the strongest body highs out of any drug I've tried. And it feels very artificial. Terrible compound.
 
I disagree. It's a lot like acid, which does feel artificial for me. But it's not as bad as LSA which has a nasty body load but is all natural. Different strokes.
 
alexvolume2 said:
I did vomit. Heavy buzzing sensation, electric.... this is in comparison to 4-aco-DMT. I wasn't ready for that high of a dosage but handled it fine. It's not that bad actually.
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I was not a fan of 4-aco-dmt personally, I quite prefered other 4-subs, as well as mushrooms really. It made me feek very lethagic and the tryptamine buzz was a lot stronger and dmt like than other 4-subs. I quite enjoy the tryptamine vibrations from 4-ho-met however which are almost just as strong just very different in nature. I don't mind an 'artifical' feel by any means I am just worried more about nausea or muscle aches(specifically jaw tension as me and my SO suffer from TMJ issues).
 
red22 said:
One of the strongest body highs out of any drug I've tried. And it feels very artificial. Terrible compound.
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Do you dislike a strong body high in general or was it just the wrong kind of strong bodyhigh?

I have a sample of this laying around, but it will probably take some time before I'll try it. Overall the reports sound very interesting.
 
red22 said:
One of the strongest body highs out of any drug I've tried. And it feels very artificial. Terrible compound.
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I disagree about the nature of the body high. I do find it to be pretty present in the body, but for me that was a wonderful thing as it felt very dep, and serene, and glowing, similar to mescaline but not as beautifully connected. Still, it felt old, wise, benevolent, and utterly comfortable in my body. I do prefer LSD to ETH-LAD, so far anyway since I've only tried ETH-LAD once, but both are wonderful compounds. It seems LSD has the potential to go deeper, and also high-dose LSD has that dopamine manic edge that makes it really unique, and I did not see any hints of this in ETH-LAD. I felt far more in control of myself at all times, composed really. I could have handled whatever (and in fact for the trip (300ug) I was climbing up boulders and waterfalls in a mountain river, quite demanding and reasonably dangerous activity).

Visually, it reminded me a lot of LSD but far more small-scale morphing (patterns in rocks fractallizing into infinity, making it difficult to tell where the rock actually begins physically, basically visual fractal soup when looking at details), and less of the wide-scale full perceptive shifts/reality hallucinations of LSD. I would say it is more powerfully visual than LSD, but in a similar yet different way.
 
yeah, this drug is insane. In a good way. But I mean seriously, my 130ug trip was amazing, but slightly wanting, so this week I took 170ug. And holy FUCK was it a LOT stronger! This was just on the cusp of what I could somewhat comfortably handle. there were doubts. I learned in a very personal way not to mix cocaine with psychedelics today, near the end. But, it sure made me feel more humble than I have for awhile tripping.
 
May have to try this again, dunno had one or 2 sub par trips off 150ugs, nothing special. Every other time the stuff woould make me hurl within less than a hour after ingestion. And that pretty much ruined the trip.
Anyone else notice extreme nausea vomiting with this. I can't even get it in my system before I throw it up.
Never had this problem with lsd, AL lad, 1p-lsd, lsz or my favorite ald-52.
And would taking 4 aco DMT a few days before deminish the trip? Don't know about the cross tolerances. Thanks guys Peace,
Nugz
 
Bigazznugz said:
May have to try this again, dunno had one or 2 sub par trips off 150ugs, nothing special. Every other time the stuff woould make me hurl within less than a hour after ingestion. And that pretty much ruined the trip.
Anyone else notice extreme nausea vomiting with this. I can't even get it in my system before I throw it up.
Never had this problem with lsd, AL lad, 1p-lsd, lsz or my favorite ald-52.
And would taking 4 aco DMT a few days before deminish the trip? Don't know about the cross tolerances. Thanks guys Peace,
Nugz
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Very strange. I am HIGHLY susceptible to nausea from almost all phenethylamine and tryptamine psychedelics. I have never thrown up from ETH-LAD, 1P-LSD or LSD. Lysergamides just don't wreck my gut thankfully. :)
 
Yeah I have never thrown up off any psychedelic drugs ever. Not even mushrooms. I am pretty good at holding shit down. I dunno I did store then improperly in a fridge,I know that fucked up the potency because the first trip was OK but I also had some of those brown post "fare thee well tour" geltabs on top of that 150 ug tab no nausea. Left it in the fridge in foil in a mylar bag. Pretty sure moisture got to it and fucked it up. Mabey some of the inactive compounds caused so much nausea?
I hear that it's not uncommon for eth top have more nausea than lsd. I have seen quite a few people say this makes them vomit. But why so damn fast?
Lsd would leave my stomach in knots sometimes.... Bitt that didn't occur till at least after the peak. I have been just using ald-52 now as it's cheaper and hella better feeling no stomach tightness or gas etc.
 
LlewellynDrury said:
How wold you compair 1p-LSD to ETH-LAD Xorkoth? And do you feel that LSD and 1p-LSD are pretty much similar regarding psychological effects?
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ETH-LAD comp-ares to 1p-LSD the same way it does to LSD, that is, more visual (a lot more visual than 1p which I don't find to be nearly as visual as LSD), less intense headspace. 1p-LSD and LSD are very similar but I find 1p-LSD to be less intense, less quick, less visual.
 
Interesting... I haven’t used LSD-25 since a long time. When I had 100 mic of 1p-LSD, for the first time last week, I came to the conclusion I couldn’t possibly discriminate between the two substances in a double blind trial. The respective effects overlap is quite extensive for me. Moreover, the uniqueness of each trip is so great, depending of set, setting and the metabolic variability, it makes discrimination very difficult for similar substances like these.

It seems I will never make the difference unless I go for an intensive use of both substances and I still have doubts. (It would be damn interesting to compare respective: brain activity using fMRI, receptor affinity profile, pharmacokinetics etc.) Being much more interested by 2Cs’ it’s unlikely I will ever do it. Let’s say 1p is a perfect LSD-25 substitute for me when I want a trip with some dopaminergic ass kicking, which is not very often.

I will order some ETH-LAD and AL-LAD soon and see for myself.
 
I'm not sure I could distinguish between LSD and 1p-LSD in a double blind either, and perhaps the differences I note are due to me knowing what I'm taking and subjectivity. However, AL-LAD and ETH-LAD are distinguishable for sure. Wonderful, unique drugs that are LSD-like but distinctly different.
 
So, xorkoth, would you say that an equal dose of LSD is potentially indistinguishable from 1p-LSD? Or would it be more like you would need x% more 1p-LSD to get to the same place a certain amount of LSD would get you?
 
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