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Combined Bupe/Citalopram Detox

With prescriptions, it is not wise to tell someone to be abstinent. There is a reason doctors have given a script!

prescriptions are not the same as RC's!!!! We all know this!

I was referring to her RC usage, not her prescription which she definitely needs to taper down with or will be in for a world of trouble, Thought that was pretty obvious from my post but I guess not
 
I loved 3fpn. It wasn't that person's right to intervene tho. If they think they have solved the issues because I'm off the drugs they're completely. I just feel the way I felt after xodeine - like my comtrol was taken away from me Giving up codeine should have been my choice. I didn't go on suboxone for the right reasons; to recover, not if I'm truly honest with
Myself - I did it to replace the codeine because I was no where near to being ready to give it. 3fpm gave me back my control. 3f was rebellous me, me wanting n needing to feeling in comtrol. Now this stalker has fucking taking it away.

Can anyone see where im coming from? Imagine if someome shopped any of you to, say, tge police for your own benefit? They came, raided n everyome was able to do stuff yet kept saying "well never mind you're better off it." Even Raasy tried talking comtrol from me by writing to admin / site owners to get me banned, wont show me the E-mail only sg response :(

Back to square one :(

Evey
 
Sorry darlin', it wasn't that clear! <3

you included subs which I do believe are prescribed with anyone who is on them....
 
If people are hassling you through multiple channels online and getting to you IRL - it really must serve as a lesson to everyone that uses this site (and similar) that internet privacy and security are vitally important, especially if you are disclosing information under an online persona that you want to be kept seperate from other parts of your life.

Don't get me wrong - nobody deserves to be harassed or stalked online, but the world is not always a kind, forgiving place - and it doesn't help matters if you share large amounts of private information on forums such as bluelight that cover all manner of sensitive material such as drug use.

Trusting strangers to keep your personal information private is altogether too trusting.

I am very careful about what i divulge on bluelight.
While I've hung out with and become friends with plenty of other members off the forum - and one or two of my friends know my BL pseudonym - that's it.
I see it as private and keep things as discreet as possible.

Evey, i'm not having a go at your or saying you deserve any of this. But it is pretty risky to be really open about your life online, especially when you are revealing the kind of vulnerabilities and private information as many bluelighters do.

I don't know the full story besides what you have eluded to, but i daresay that jumping off both suboxone and antidepressants at the same time will probably increase - for a while at least - your sense of being in crisis.
Not sure if you have detoxed completely from opiates before, but it can take weeks, and really messes with your sleep, your moods, your digestion - amongst other things - if you do it too quickly.

I've never taken the antidepressant you are on, but know that the withdrawal symptoms from abrupt cessation of many of that class of drugs can be quite uncomfortable as well.

Put simply, coming off your meds will not give you any sense of short-term stability. It is a good thing to aim for and work towards, but there are many good reasons it is not recommended.

Good luck.
 
Well someone has call social services n told my family who Are not mow speakimg to Me n me I feel a worst piece of scum tham ever n seriously not sure if i can cope going through that mental torture again would personally rather be dead than go through that again :( i cant go through that again. All the anxietu, stress, worry, more stress, obsessive thoughts over stuff. I'd rather mot be here than go through that again :(

Evey
 
Evey, I have to say that this is incredibly ill-advised.

Firstly, never mind what EnglandGZ74 did. You are not him, and what worked for him might not work for you. His personal circumstances were very different from yours.

Secondly, you are on prescribed medication for a reason, and that reason is not likely to go away of its own accord any time soon. (The opiate addiction will clear itself up, eventually; but the depression -- which you were trying to self-medicate with codeine in the first place -- won't, and is likely to make the opiate withdrawal worse.) You need to take that medication properly, so it can do the job it was meant to do. But you haven't even been doing that.

Nobody ever says "I think I ought to start wearing my glasses a bit less", or "I ought to try to wean myself out of my wheelchair", but that is how big a deal prescribed medication really is, and don't let anyone tell you different. And I say this, speaking as someone who needs to take prescribed medication daily just in order to be able to breathe.

Throwing away your medication at this stage will not accomplish anything sensible. You will feel terrible for about 5 days, then cave in and hate yourself. If you genuinely want off the subs (as opposed to, say, wanting something that you can bitch and moan about and say it is too hard and feel sorry for yourself) then do what I have been telling you to do -- not for fun, but because it will actually work if you do it -- ever since we first spoke on the subject.
 
I appreciate thr advice honestly it means the world to me but ive made up
My mi d n flushed all meds.
Blame the stalker who thought telling my family about my 3fpm use for this - they had my 3 taken away n my control. And also my family don't want owt to do with me now. How could anyone be so incredibly mean? What did I ever do to anyone on this dite to dezerve THIS? :( yeah I've my faults. I'm annoying. I'm argumentative n aee stuff in black n whilte. But tl contact my family when they're anti-drugs n to try destroying me by turming my family against me.
I've no onr now as even Raasy wants nothinv to do with me.
Better off on my own anyway as people just backstab you in the end.
Agter this five-hour tattoo im getting a snake to represemt the fucking endless people whove betrayed me n backstabbers with the letters D T A Austin316 maybe a wrestlier n fiction but never a truer word spoken. Giving up 3 should have been my choice.

Real tired thank you very much everyone really lovely to have your advice as i said I truly love this community n being apart of this place but i'm tired night xxxxx

Evey
 
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If people are hassling you through multiple channels online and getting to you IRL - it really must serve as a lesson to everyone that uses this site (and similar) that internet privacy and security are vitally important, especially if you are disclosing information under an online persona that you want to be kept seperate from other parts of your life.

Don't get me wrong - nobody deserves to be harassed or stalked online, but the world is not always a kind, forgiving place - and it doesn't help matters if you share large amounts of private information on forums such as bluelight that cover all manner of sensitive material such as drug use.

Trusting strangers to keep your personal information private is altogether too trusting.

I am very careful about what i divulge on bluelight.
While I've hung out with and become friends with plenty of other members off the forum - and one or two of my friends know my BL pseudonym - that's it.
I see it as private and keep things as discreet as possible.

Evey, i'm not having a go at your or saying you deserve any of this. But it is pretty risky to be really open about your life online, especially when you are revealing the kind of vulnerabilities and private information as many bluelighters do.

I don't know the full story besides what you have eluded to, but i daresay that jumping off both suboxone and antidepressants at the same time will probably increase - for a while at least - your sense of being in crisis.
Not sure if you have detoxed completely from opiates before, but it can take weeks, and really messes with your sleep, your moods, your digestion - amongst other things - if you do it too quickly.

I've never taken the antidepressant you are on, but know that the withdrawal symptoms from abrupt cessation of many of that class of drugs can be quite uncomfortable as well.

Put simply, coming off your meds will not give you any sense of short-term stability. It is a good thing to aim for and work towards, but there are many good reasons it is not recommended.

Good luck.

I would very much agree with all of that. Having said that, I also know that getting the mix of personal and arms's length stuff right talking with people online - particularly within a relatively small community (and a community of regular drug users at that) - isn't always gonna work out perfectly. I know this from personal experience as to a number of BLers I can think of. Your advice is spot on but significant fault always has to lie with the perpetrators of malicious acts. There are always better options than vigalantism.

I wouldn't want to come off anti-depressants at the same time as buprenorphine.
Each on its own would be challenging.
Doing both at once does not sound like a good idea, to me anyway.

I once spent a week detoxing from heroin and paroxetine and there really are no words for how horrid that got :|


(it got a lot more horrid when i decided to eat an entire packet of diphenhydramine in the hope of knocking myself out was, mind - that really was a mad detox 8o8(8o)

That aside though, I would say it's a horrible idea to try to quit such a script without medical supervision. I'm pretty sure Evey is aware of this due to it coming up repeatedly by now so I sadly doubt anybody will be persuading her one way or t'other - she is a big girl and can make her own decisions. This would be a horrible decision but unlikely to be lethal. It's either a few weeks of hell followed by having no script to cover any underlying issues which may or may not be present or thinking on it a little and realising that such things really should be done with properly managed tapers.
 
Good lord... Get your shit together OP. If not for yourself for your kid. From what I've seen your obsession over this site and what people on the internet think or say to you is far beyond unhealthy. You need to be addressing your issues head on with a professional and focus on what really matters. Not putting out negativity on an internet forum and then regress to playing the victim role over and over.
 
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Day 2. Not feeling bad at mo. Was slightly tired this morning n felt hot n cold a bit but I've had three crumpets with nutella, a coffee. Feel a shit coming on n bath in a bit me thinks. Had a good sleep last night well crashed out around 6-7ish. I better phone a certain organisation in a bit n find out what they want.

Good lord... Get your shit together OP. If not for yourself for your kid. From what I've seen your obsession over this site and what people on the internet think or say to you is far beyond unhealthy. You need to be addressing your issues head on with a professional and focus on what really matters. Not putting out negativity on an internet forum and then regress to playing the victim role over and over.

If you've nothing nice or constructive to say please don't address me. Your opinion is irrelevant to me as I dont know you nor you, me. This is my detox thread to get some support in a decision I've made. Thank you n hope you understand :)

Evey
 
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If you've nothing nice or constructive to say please don't address me. Your opinion is irrelevant to me as I dont know you nor you, me. This is my detox thread to get some support in a decision I've made. Thank you n hope you understand :)

Evey

I'd say that it was constructive. It certainly wasnt nasty.

May I ask Evey, what is the purpose of your thread? I thought it was for people to offer their advice and support. Just because you created the thread, it doesnt mean that you own it, and can pick and choose the replies that you receive.

You shouldn't be so dismissive and rude to people when they don't reply in the manner that you want them to. Some people are genuinely trying to help you. If you carry on speaking to people like that, one by one, even the most determined friend will have had enough and before you know it, you'll be alone. Thats not a nice thought, is it?
 
It was nasty. I found it nasty n I politely asked the person not to speak to me in that manner as I do not know them. I've mentioned several times I'm being stalked both off n online so if someone whom isn't a menber of EADD gives me a nasty post I'm going to politely ask for them not to.

The purpose of this thread is not get support n encouragement seems as detoxing isn't easy.

I'm not asking for people to agree with my decision or understand it but to respect that I've made it n give me a bit of support like they'd do any other member.

I'd have made this thread in the recoveriy forums but EADD is my home n where most of the members know me.

Is it ok to ask for some support n encouragement without having to receive abuse abuse from members whom do not normally reside in this community? I'd be infracted if I talked to a member like that.

Thanks for your response, Urbain.

Evey
 
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Absolutely ridiculous. I dont know why I even bothered to post.

Good luck all the same.
 
If you've nothing nice or constructive to say please don't address me. Your opinion is irrelevant to me as I dont know you nor you, me. This is my detox thread to get some support in a decision I've made. Thank you n hope you understand :)

Evey

I'm pretty sure you know who I am, but it's irrelevant anyways. Last time I checked this is a public forum and people are free to post where ever they want as long as they're not going against the forum guidelines. What I posted may have been blunt but it certainly wasn't abusive or nasty. Just because it's not what you want to hear to doesn't mean it's not constructive. If you just want people to tell you what you want to hear while you keep engaging in dangerous behavior over and over this isn't the right place. Grow up and get some REAL help for your problems. Forget about all this internet bullshit you seem to thrive on and focus on giving your kid a good stable environment to grow up in. In the long run I can guarantee you that that will be a lot more fulfilling than any drug.
 
Having a 5-hour tattoo on March 10 which I owe £130. Will pay £65 this Thursday n £65 on day. This will be for life. Three weeks of 5g 3 will give me five hours work (art) n be with me a life time. One advantage of not tsking 3. Other is more presents for livibe for birthday. Other is travelling. I'd like to visit Australia, Canada, Hawaii, News Zereland n maybe New York to see where Frank McCourt (most know of Angela's Ashes yeah?) lived out his life; teaching. I loved that man's books - reasing his life story was an honour n one I never tire of.
Today is a beautiful day. Skies blue. Nice breezy wind. Life feels exciting again. Life will be exciting again.

My brothers birthday today n I've a card here. Ummm.

Right bath (still bot gone in it).

Evey
 
Thank you :) xxxx


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You expect because you made this thread, to have things your own way.

Why are you advising others to taper, when people have suggested you do it, yet you've ignored and shot them down completely?

Cant you see that's incredibly disrespectful? If you appreciate it might not be the best route, why choose to do it? A silly case of "rebelling" perhaps?

Im sorry but you deserve whatever will come to you. Awful attitude.

Im done.
 
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Now, I'm not gonna go around snipping posts. But I'M saying keep it nice. It's a support thread. Criticism, yes, if constructive.

ATM, The op just needs some support. If certain members feel that they cannot offer that then by all means DON'T POST!

Edit: Urbain, sorry love I did edit your last post as it referenced something that is no longer there. xxx Yeah yeah, I know I said I wasn't going to but it's relevant.
 
Oy vey... This indeed strikes me as another form of self-harm. I can't think of any other reason why she would all of the sudden advise what people have been telling her all along but not take her own advice. I don't wish anyone to come to harm but I guess you can't help people unless they want to help themselves.

ATM, The op just needs some support. If certain members feel that they cannot offer that then by all means DON'T POST!

Is offering support telling people what they want to hear or what they need to hear? As a HR website I would think it would be the latter.
 
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