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Combined Bupe/Citalopram Detox

I only asked that it be constructive. Not everyone is going to say things that a person wants to hear. This is very true in my case. It's just how you speak to someone that matters.

I'll hold my hands up and say that Evey has not handled some criticism well but that was not me that U/A'd that. I was in a meeting when that was done.

I try and keep on top of things but I'm not always here. I would have written that post for ANY bl'er that asked me to. Some things can be of a delicate subject matter. It's nice to be nice. No more or less than that.

I'm sorry if my post has ruffled a few feathers, but as I said, I'd say something for any BL'er that asked me to.

That is all!
 
If you're dropping from 2mg buprenorphine, you will suffer.

I would taper off subutex in about a month or less, (sure I'd relapse immediately, then 'maintain' with heroin) - but the taper itself was a case of a 2-4 weeks.

My advice is go back and get your script and do it properly. The only outcome is you're going to be bed ridden sick and desperate to score any drugs to take the edge off.

But if you're adamant this is what you want to do. Get some loperamide and buscopan i guess...strap in for WDs.
 
2:29 pm:

Back from shopping

Detox shopping list (not the best but this is EVEY lol£

Here goes:

Three bottles of tonic water. One flavouring lemon, other has elderflower n last has gonger-beer
Almonds
Bananas
Apples (pink lady)
Carbs (naughty carvs inc 3 cadburys DM Orea bars, 3 snickers n 3 lion bars)
Mushrooms,
Spinach,
2 boxes of 2 cheese-omlettes
Charcago town pizzas x 4
Fat oven chips
Tea cake
Multivitamins
Evening primrose oil
Salmon
Tuna
Tomatomas
Baby wripes

Had expaure to vitamin D (fuckin beautiful feeling the breeze on my skin i can't remember the last time nature was so beautiful).

Nature was my life a million moons ago. It was a HUGE part of me. I would write poems about it. Walk it. Breathe. Think it. FEEL IT. Wrap the whole air n natural creation around me n thank God for being alive.

It is absokutely beautiful today. I have hidden away from nature for too long now. I'm getting ME back.....

Think positive. Onwards n upwards!

Evey
 
I'm really amazed an appalled at the tenor of the people arguing here. The discussion is about who was right in saying someone should taper on a drug. Look, people... anyone who frequents one of these boards knows the risks of these meds and knows that they are in thick of it these days, because there are so many of these meds and everyone is on them and people are dying. So offer people compassionate, constructive advice people. My god.

Listen to what he said just now:

"Remember in November/December, when the 3-FPM posts started? A few of us called it then, disaster in the making. Guess what? We were 100% right."

Well, Guess what, you weren't 100 percent right, not even close. This stuff is everywhere and it's not ruining people, the reports are mostly good. In fact, they've since come up with better versions of the drugs. These are good drugs, nothing to crow about as in "see who was right?" First, who cares who was riight, and second, you were dead WRONG.

Oh, and go to the other forums on the same topics elsewhere, where I come from. You will read that there are numerous good, safe ways of coming off buprenorphine, especially if a person is only at 2 mg. On my other boards, the responses would be, "here's how you should taper." We all have friends with benzos that would help immeasurably. The way you come off of something like that is good sleep, good food, and rest.

Instead, Fug (what an appropriate name for you) says "you will suffer." He then says he'd relapse immediately and turn to heroin. Some friend you are Fug. Rather than offering to help, Fug's words of miswisdom are "The only outcome is you're going to be bed ridden sick and desperate to score any drugs to take the edge off." What a friend. What a louse. Go spend some time in detox Fudd and see if you learn anything, People can get off, and it's the positive strength she's showing that's going to get it done for her. It's got her in a wiser frame of mind than you have.

You, sir, with that attitude to drugs and toward people, are doomed to die of organ failure before you read 60.
 
NOT HANDLED CRITICISM???? I don't want criticidm I want support. Wonder if this waa ANY OTHER MEMBER THEY'D rexeive "criticism" like this n moderators would Allow it.

And, Teal, no people were NOT right about 3. Someone stuck their nose in my business so I'm coming off everything n never again will I disclose stabstance use on this site again. At leadt Eveleivibe won't.

Can I Please have this thread moved over to TDS please where people can be supportive.

Evey
 
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Having such an "all or nothing" attitude may come back around and bite you in the arse. Be careful.

I'd take FUBAR's advice and get the script so you have a backup. Plan B and all that..

Plan to fail and you probably will.

I don't see why you would need 'backup'. If you've decided this is it then don't pick up and just do the cluck. What situation could arise that means you need backup?

I don't see the sense in coming off citalopram at the same time as the subs though.
 
I read a book once of a drug addict he turned to Christianity n didn't have any WDs, any cravings. God looked after him. Will find the book later.
Feeling fine at him going on sunbed in a bit God will get me through this I'm not scared I'm excited n looking forward. Going in with positive mindset.

Kinda feel im not going to be able to document my WD / tough times fot feae of ridicuke with all this negativity. Why can't people respect my decisiom n either support me or leave me be?

Evey
 
I for one wish you all the luck in the world Evey. Ive been struggling a bit myself recently and started a loperamide taper but if decided against it. Im off work until 2nd March so im nust going to tough it out. Im at a very low point in my life at the moment so i sympathise with you a lot Evey...
 
I for one wish you all the luck in the world Evey. Ive been struggling a bit myself recently and started a loperamide taper but if decided against it. Im off work until 2nd March so im nust going to tough it out. Im at a very low point in my life at the moment so i sympathise with you a lot Evey...

Thank you, G I appreciate that a lot. Sorry to hear yr feeling low here if you need to talk <3 And O I agree fuck getting the script I want off the stuff so silly to put temptation in my way.

Evey
 
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Glad you're doing better Eveleivibe. The people who are telling you you're crazy for tapering are you are seeing themselves proven wrong, it's hard for them to take. So let's take the high road, something they have no clue how to do. Oh, they'll probably come back and reprint everything I say here and try to shoot holes in it, and then demand again that this thread be moved, but they will never really understand what just went on here. While some of us were cheering you on, they were telling you you're crazy. Who's crazy now, girl!! You go!!!!

And a little later, I'll PM you and invite you to a much better place ;)
 
Glad you're doing better Eveleivibe. The people who are telling you you're crazy for tapering are you are seeing themselves proven wrong, it's hard for them to take. So let's take the high road, something they have no clue how to do. Oh, they'll probably come back and reprint everything I say here and try to shoot holes in it, and then demand again that this thread be moved, but they will never really understand what just went on here. While some of us were cheering you on, they were telling you you're crazy. Who's crazy now, girl!! You go!!!!

And a little later, I'll PM you and invite you to a much better place ;)
i have no interest in getting involved in this debate, but you seem to have it around the wrong way - people (such as myself) are suggesting she does taper - rather than jump off cold turkey.
But it's her life, her choice.
 
Good luck with the detox.

If you are reading this or have not done so already, please do contact a doctor or medical professional and tell them what you are doing. Certain medications are not good to just detox on your own or go off of on your own without the supervision of a doctor or medical professional. Stay safe.
 
I suppose I better edit this (been outting it off). I so have been dreading this encase people laugh ir say told-you-so. I lasted a week without subs n citalopram. The moodswings were unbarable. I literally screamed at a friend n broke over aa cake. I never experienced anything like this. I'd not started the runs but couldn't sleep even with 24 pills of 12.8mg n a few nights n had rls in
My fingerss as well as my lefs but wht? I ate bananans, drank tomic water which disgusting. I could deal with most of the symptons to be honest bar the RLS n moodswings.

Someone on here was right when they said you feel invincible when om opies. I'd forgotten what WD was cause don't remember it.

Right - The GP put back back on citalopram 20 mg for two weeks. Saw him ladt Friday I'm transfering to sertaline because I can no longer stand how citalopram makes me impulsive (n over-react over stuff in a way I necer have when not on it) n tired as well as crace trash.

If anyone has experience with sertaline I would live to hear from yiu - I'm aware that people are affected differently so I'd like to hear from as many as possible please <3

Me mate, Lisa, who I do volunteering with, ison sertaline n she can exerccise on it n has a lovely slim body. I really hope that this is right for me n stop all the impulsive.

2moro I pick my subs up n I will no longer be on 2mg but 1.6 mg (finally going to be under 2 mg - it's only taken 3 years for me to get here lol). What I have to conquer, wheb it comes to subbies, is my desire to stockpile n abuse tgem. I've never really taken normally for more than a week or two - I thinj that once I've the cit out of my system n stop over-reacting to stufc I've taken them accordingly simce I came bavk on them.

Yay kinda nervous n excited about doing this let's see what happens.

Would just like to say thank you to eceryone for advice it's appreciated.

Evey
 
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