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Kratom The Kratom Megathread

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belfort said:
Why do people fuck with extracts and tinctures?it just blows your tolerance to all hell..

To the above guy who felt a load on your liver, what do you mean?how did u feel it being heavy on your liver?this seems unlikely to me
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Yup, I learned that the hard way. I also got the answer to my question, it's just my tolerance. Why did I use it? Because it feels fucking awesome. But of course it comes with a price. Now I'm telling everyone else not to fuck with the extracts haha
 
I cant find sweet spot with kratom. I've used all types of strains, but everytime I take it makes me extremely nauseous and shaky, even at 2 grams. No focus, no motivation, no mood lift, no anxiety relief. So it doesnt work for everyone.
 
JustRun said:
I cant find sweet spot with kratom. I've used all types of strains, but everytime I take it makes me extremely nauseous and shaky, even at 2 grams. No focus, no motivation, no mood lift, no anxiety relief. So it doesnt work for everyone.
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Do you have a reputable vendor..?at the beginning my burns were all over the place, I'd get anxious but motivated with a mood boost..energy for days but id get shaky on it and irritable and extreme dizziness..just keep messing with it but if it isn't giving you any positive effects you may just be one of the unlucky ones
 
belfort said:
Do you have a reputable vendor..?at the beginning my burns were all over the place, I'd get anxious but motivated with a mood boost..energy for days but id get shaky on it and irritable and extreme dizziness..just keep messing with it but if it isn't giving you any positive effects you may just be one of the unlucky ones
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Vendor is very reputable. I had a plan to cycle kratom with phenibut, but yes it seems that I'm the unlucky one.
I wish phenibut had no withdrawals and tolerance issues. This is the wonder drug for my social anxiety and motivation.
 
Justrun- you're not alone. I'm the same way with anything over 5 grams, but I have a fairly high opiate tolerance from morphine, so I suspect some people are simply overly sensitive to the stimulant alkaloids in kratom. I've purchased from several very reputable vendors as well and all my friends loved it. Do you happen to have an opioid tolerance already? If so, at 2 grams you're probably feeling nothing but the stimulant alkaloids.
 
I've tried quite a few different vendors. I wish I could list my favorite now but I know that's not allowed.....I enjoy all the White Vein and yellow vein strains. They are the most subtle euphoric to me. I usually grab my powder and dip a Baby spoon in it and down about 5 spoonfulls. Always worked best for me that way.
 
morphine-dreams said:
Justrun- you're not alone. I'm the same way with anything over 5 grams, but I have a fairly high opiate tolerance from morphine, so I suspect some people are simply overly sensitive to the stimulant alkaloids in kratom. I've purchased from several very reputable vendors as well and all my friends loved it. Do you happen to have an opioid tolerance already? If so, at 2 grams you're probably feeling nothing but the stimulant alkaloids.
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I've never touched opiates and opioids. I've tried 2-6 grams of Maeng Da, Red Bali, Green Bali and everytime had shitty sedation (no energy, extremely tired) with tremors and severe nausea settled in after 2 hours, puked most of the times. It has no recreational or medicinal value for me. Only one time I experienced something like waking dream and nodding off, but it wasnt particularly enjoyable. If opiates are anything like this, then they are not for me.
 
JustRun said:
Vendor is very reputable. I had a plan to cycle kratom with phenibut, but yes it seems that I'm the unlucky one.
I wish phenibut had no withdrawals and tolerance issues. This is the wonder drug for my social anxiety and motivation.
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Yep, phenibut really destroys my social anxiety and makes me feel much more social..it's really the only thing that really helps my social anxiety and introverted quirks..ssris and otc compounds have done nothing..kratom helps me be more social if I have to be if that makes any sense lol..
 
About 10 to 20 minutes after orally consuming a dose of kratom, as the effects just begin to kick in, I get a very brief rush of effects that kinda remind me of being slightly stoned... or possibly even like a low dose of a psychedelic or mdma. The feeling is almost erotic at times too. These effects are not very prominent and they typically only last a few minutes or so until the "usual" kratom effects kick in.

I only notice it if i haven't used any kratom for awhile (several days at least). The longer the time in between uses, the more perceivable these effects are, although, even with a break of several months these effects are still weak any only last a few minutes. The biggest dose Ive ever taken without tolerance is 8 grams... so perhaps with a larger dose, while non-tolerant, than these effects would be more apparent?

I cant stand being stoned but I love this brief feeling I get from Kratom. It would be great if I could find a way to amplify and extend these effects, though I realize that isn't possible.

Does anyone relate?
 
^^^ I have noticed that too (it's happening right now to be honest) and it's something I've come to enjoy! Not always, but sometimes.. particularly after a little break, like you said.

I'm trying out some Super Red Malaysian tonight after a week off. Pretty excited to just chill and have some down time after a 14 hour shift at work dealing with people all day. I took a little DXM with it, as I've read that it can potentiate the effects. Just 50 mg or so.. hopefully it works!

Has anyone else tried out Super Red Malaysian? I had never heard of it until I stumbled upon a new vendor and decided to try them out. I love the Super Green Malaysian strain, so hopefully this one is awesome too.

EDIT: Well, it's hard for me to fairly judge this strain as it's from a different vendor than I typically use, but the effects seemed a little milder than I usually get from this dose. Oh well! I'll try a stronger dose tomorrow; for now, time for bed.
 
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I really really love this mixed with cannabis and caffeine.

For me it's better than any stimulant out there....just an unreal buzz.....may have become my new favorite combo of anything
 
I've made this post but never found anyone with similar experiences.

I used to throw Kratom on top of my DOC all the time. I'd usually get the headshop(I know) extracts. I felt like the right dose would add to the already existing buzz in a very pleasant way.

I'd also use it for withdrawals, it never made me feel good like my DOC but kept it withdrawals at bay. My usual dose would 6-12 grams of whatever strain. Back then, I didn't understand that every strain has different effect. I never got high with Kratom alone but I felt like it was a good tool when needed.

One day, I was on Suboxone. I broke down and wanted to get high but we all know that's hard to do with Bupe in your system. I went and got some Kratom from a headshop, this brand had good reviews. It was the mix of all strains that they sold.

I bought 15 grams and took it all. The first 60-90 minutes were pleasant.

Then I slowly started getting trailed vision. I'd move my eyes and anything in sight would trail. Not in the fun psychedelic way either. My eyes would also twitch uncontrollably. I started getting nervous. The next thing to happen was my body beginning to feel really heavy and I began, rather rapidly, losing my ability to walk. I could walk, but I had to hold on to something. My heart rate went through the roof. I had hundreds of intense panic attacks, this wasn't a panic attack, for sure. I felt extremely dizziness and vertigo among a few other symptoms.

I, legit, felt like I was living my last minutes. I'm not exaggerating, I thought I was dying. I stumbled to the medicine cabinet and took 50mg of Benadryl(in case allergy is what was happening) and 100mg of Phenobarbital. I then crawled to the bed and climbed into it.

Slowly, my symptoms began to subside. It took around 6 hours to feel better.

According to someone with a medical background and very close to me, if you have potential to be allergic to something, taking large amounts of it will push your body across that point of potential to having an actual allergy.

I've tried using Kratom again to combat my opiate withdrawals with no luck. If I take over 3-4 grams at once, I start getting similar sickness but on a much lesser scale. Slowly working my way up to 8 grams by taking 2 grams every hour will yield the same result.

That is how, my friends, Kratom became an enemy of mine. It sucks. I've read great stories of people tapering off with Kratom in order to quit opiates with fantastic results and I wish I could do the same. But, 8 grams is not enough to keep me out of withdrawals and anything over 4 grams at once makes me will put a damper on the withdrawal but introduce its own sickness.

I tried chalking it up to crappy headshop quality of Kratom. However, even ordering from a reputable vendor selling A+ product yielded the same results.

Anyone with similar experiences, please speak up. Even if you felt like you just overdid it a little and the result wasn't a question of life and death, let me know.
 
I've been using kratom for years, not every single day, but at least a week here or there. It really helped me come off tramadol when I used to be hooked on that. Etizolam and clonozalem make kratom feel like baby aspirin in comparison so it doesn't mean much to me anymore except I will take kratom if I run out of Etiz or C-Lam. It helps to lift your mood at least when you're feeling lethargy and depression from not having another drug in your system. Kratom feels best for a couple days, then it just fades out or something. I put the powder in capsules and get sick of taking a large amount of pills all the time, but it's still great we have it available. It takes the edge off.

Phenibut used to be my favorite, it felt like a drug from "Limitless", I was supper witty and quick and it made me feel on top of my game, but now it makes me feel crappy and it doesn't make me feel any smarter like it used to. I still use it occasionally though if I'm out of benzos too long because it works on GABA receptors.

I used to go back and forth between kratom and phenibut. I always substituted one drug for another in some kind of way.
 
Side effects I've noticed: kratom screws with your digestive system (bloated, constipation) sometimes and I've noticed an adverse reaction where my face turned red. If I looked closely in the mirror, it would be like tiny red dots all over my face. That definitely has something to do with how it processes in your liver and that's usually when you overdo it or need to take a break. The redness goes away after a few days.

And it makes me hungry as hell after I dose. Like I have the munchies. Same with benzos, It makes me eat like crazy and all these drugs really mess with your hormones. You feel flabby and disgusting after using enough. I also notice weight gain.
 
Is there anyone else on here like me who enjoys Kratom but also has a skin condition like Eczema who notices that it acts up a lot more when they take Kratom?

I've had nemular eczema that I only ever got on my feet and sometimes hands for 20 years.

However, within the past several months I started getting it all over my body: my forearms, thigh, chest, etc.

MOST of these times I was on Kratom but some of the times that I got it on entirely new places I'd never gotten before i was NOT on Kratom so I'm not 100% sure if the eczema spreading to other parts of my body is 100% Kratom related but all I know is that before one day an eczema spot appreared on my forearm when on Kratom...a sport where I'd NEVER had eczema before...since then it will appear on new parts of my body even when I am NOT on Kratom.

It's as if using Kratom made my eczema worse not only when I'm ON Kratom but also when I am NOT on Kratom.

But how could it make sense that taking Kratom could permanently make a skin condition worse even when it's not even present in one's system????

It DEFINITELY makes me get more and worse breakouts when under the influence, but as always like the 19 years I had eczema before I ever even heard of Kratom, I will still get bad breakouts on days when I don't use Kratom and since I don't use Kratom more than twice a week MAX most of the times I have breakouts I am still not on Kratom.

I know it's retarded cause I REALLy want the eczema to go away but I LOVE Kratom so much I don't want to stop taking it and it's not like if I don't take it the eczema will go away either, it just wont' be AS bad.

I attribute the fact that it does this to it being an opioid because as we all know opioids and opiates increase histamines and cause itching and I've gotten the opioid itches in a NON-Eczema related way, just like an itchy back that wasn't eczema, from both Kratom and other opiates as well.

But I am just wondering if there is anyone else here who has a SPECIFIC SKIN CONDITION like eczema or psoriasis that they notice acts up more when they are on Kratom and if there's anything they do about it to help with it...other than not taking Kratom of course..lol....

And I am also interested if anyone here has an answer to the bolded part.
 
morphine-dreams said:
My guess would be that the eczema is caused by a histamine reaction, try taking and anti histamine or using a topical cream and see what happens. Eczema tends to develop as a result of allergies pretty often. I don't know if that's actually what's going on but that was my first thought.
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Thanks.

Yeah, I usually do take Allegra when I take Kratom but it doesn't really stop the eczema flare ups, maybe just helps a TINY bit.

I do have topical creams but once the itching starts it's SO bad I have to get to them FAST and use a LOT of will power which is even harder when on drugs.

I do agree it has to do with histamines but why would it cause my eczema to spread to new places it never had before in 20 years even when I am NOT on the drug??

And as far as allergies, I've had eczema for 20 years now so what could i possibly be allergic to that I have had either in my body or use or eaten or whatever non-stop for 20 years???

I have been to allergists and they say my allergies are to dust, pollen, dander and cats and dogs.

I have a hypo-allergenic cat but he does NOT cause the eczema, I'm 100% sure of it and my eczema happens when I am not around him, not even LIVING with him.

So I really dont' know what it could be.

My friend told me the other day that I need to take short, luke-warm showers as opposed to the really long really hot showers I like to take because the heat and long showers "push all the essential oils out of my skin" and dry me out.

I tried it the past two days and will continue to but still got one eczema spot in that period of time, and not even when on it, but the day after.

I don't know what it could be.
 
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That's pretty frightening. I just began with Kratom a couple months ago and joined a Facebook Kratom page. They've become my go to place for all things Kratom. What started out as a case of what they call the Wobbles, sure sounds like yours turned in to something much worse. I've had mild cases of the Wobbles, plus felt anxious and just weird. Hard to describe. I've been trying the less is more method and experimenting with different strains. Trying to get off of Percs and the Kratom def helps with WD. Still don't know exactly what I'm doing quite yet, but I'm cautiously optimistic. Head over to FB to the "Kratom" New and current users page. They'll have better answers for you.
 
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