Kratom The Kratom Megathread

[bingey]

So anybody on mmt want to tell us about their kratom experiences? I'm done with heroin but do wonder if I can enjoy a little kratom in the weekends. I'm planning on skipping a 40 mg dose and double dosing with some kratom on top , perhaps 20-30 grams...

 

[pbuilder]

So anybody on mmt want to tell us about their kratom experiences? I'm done with heroin but do wonder if I can enjoy a little kratom in the weekends. I'm planning on skipping a 40 mg dose and double dosing with some kratom on top , perhaps 20-30 grams...

Won't do anything for you if you are on MMT.

 

[OneEyedRonnie]

Has anybody tried a strain called "Red Kalimantan"? I just got some from a vendor here in Canada.. enjoying it so far! Nice and mellow--feels 'clean' somehow--and solid analgesic properties as well! I've only tried a couple other strains, but I have some Maeng Da as well, which I'm hearing good things about! Look forward to trying it

 

[Ludeachrist]

I wholeheartedly agree with the pain relief. I read somewhere that you have to be careful taking kratom and any variation of amphetamine type drugs. A little bit of viagra might help the sex drive thing. I think it opiate tolerance users, 15 - 20 grams of kratom will definitely knock out any pain they have period for withdrawals of daily opiate users, it's best to take 10 to 15 grams every 6 hours at the most. In my experience it has a half life dependent on the dosage , whether or not you have a full stomach, taking it with cold water or coffee doesn't really do much to destroy the alkaloids so I'm not too sure about them being temperature sensitive. The onset of action is quick, expect relief in the typical I.R. opiates range new users. If you are going to detox, it's best to stock up on kratom, as it is an opiate receptor antagonist and straight up opiate. Justin Bieber was drunk as FUCK and took kratom all day and it did next to nothing to increase the respiratory depression. I believe the pharmaceutical industry reeps great profits through the regulated sale of opium. Kratom is expensive for a reason and a good alternative to opiates sold in pill form. Its painkilling action varies with the strain and alkaloid concentration. I have found maeng da may be the best for pain killing.

 

[Snake_Eyes]

Has anybody tried a strain called "Red Kalimantan"? I just got some from a vendor here in Canada.. enjoying it so far! Nice and mellow--feels 'clean' somehow--and solid analgesic properties as well! I've only tried a couple other strains, but I have some Maeng Da as well, which I'm hearing good things about! Look forward to trying it

Pretty much all I use.

 

[Ludeachrist]

Being in Canada, you can get OTC codeine, using maeng da Kratom in conjunction with it may increase it's effectiveness taking a lower initial dose to save your liver from the massive acetaminophen dosing which causes liver damage. Those combination pain killers with it are pointless and causes damage to the patient. I believe all opiate pain killers should have no form of aspirin or n.s.a.i.d's, allowing patients to take an appropriate amount according to their pain without worrying about health damage.

 

[Ludeachrist]

So anybody on mmt want to tell us about their kratom experiences? I'm done with heroin but do wonder if I can enjoy a little kratom in the weekends. I'm planning on skipping a 40 mg dose and double dosing with some kratom on top , perhaps 20-30 grams...

20 grams of powder form maeng da should do the trick. can use 4 to 5 full spoonfulls, just spoon the powder in, drink water into your mouth and move it around and swallow, or, make a tea, boil some water and spoon the Kratom into a cup after adding water and put equal parts sugar and drink as a tea. Beyonce put 3 - 4 spoons in her coffee too, not too bad tasting with this method.

 

[OneEyedRonnie]

I used to buy the AC&C and Tylenol 1's quite a bit. I would do the cold water extractions and drink that shit down, but I always felt a bit sketched out about it.

 

[Peacephrog1972]

First off anyone using over 10grams a day is just outright abuse and of course you will get withdrawals! Knock it off!!

Kava has a reverse tolerance (only drug I know with this doozy) so you have to let the kavalactones levels build up in your body before you really get the full effects of kava.....it took me 5 days of daily dosing before I felt the full effects.....and I swear the first time I really "got it" I felt like I was rolling on MDMA

 

[Slow_Mobius]

First off anyone using over 10grams a day is just outright abuse and of course you will get withdrawals! Knock it off!!

Kava has a reverse tolerance (only drug I know with this doozy) so you have to let the kavalactones levels build up in your body before you really get the full effects of kava.....it took me 5 days of daily dosing before I felt the full effects.....and I swear the first time I really "got it" I felt like I was rolling on MDMA

You're ignoring the fact that some of us take it for pain... In which case someone would almost definitely need more that 10g. IME, kratom is better pain reliever with fewer side effects than many prescriptions. I take it as an alternative to stronger opioids that give me worse side effects and less functionality. I've actually never gone over 10g in a day, but I wouldn't judge someone for doing so without fully understanding they're situation.

I've drank plenty kava in my day, and it has given me no pain relief.

 

[PotatoMan]

i've found my desired method of kratom consumption.

1hour before - 400mg tagamet

1 heaping scoop of green vein bali with a 2nd 'top-off' splash into a bottle. fill with OJ and stir until there's some clumping at the top. scoop the clumps at the top and drop it into a second bottle. fill with OJ and stir.

then spend ~15 mins drinking the nasty mixture. then 50mg DPH for histamine release (i get bad itches in pelvic and ballsack region)

 

[Ludeachrist]

First off anyone using over 10grams a day is just outright abuse and of course you will get withdrawals! Knock it off!!

Kava has a reverse tolerance (only drug I know with this doozy) so you have to let the kavalactones levels build up in your body before you really get the full effects of kava.....it took me 5 days of daily dosing before I felt the full effects.....and I swear the first time I really "got it" I felt like I was rolling on MDMA

That is simply untrue. Kratom use raises your tolerance, after time doses of 10grams simply fail to work for pain relief. Everyone is different, the levels of pain are different as well. Being realistic, it's commonplace.

 

[Peacephrog1972]

Hey man..,.im as good as the next at minimalzation!

TBH I've never found any pain relieving qualities from kratom....I have chronic back pain and I've never had any relief from kratom

But yes, if it really does help then I'm all for it....gitteeup

 

[Mycophile]

First off anyone using over 10grams a day is just outright abuse and of course you will get withdrawals! Knock it off!!

Kava has a reverse tolerance (only drug I know with this doozy) so you have to let the kavalactones levels build up in your body before you really get the full effects of kava.....it took me 5 days of daily dosing before I felt the full effects.....and I swear the first time I really "got it" I felt like I was rolling on MDMA

Using more than 10 grams in an ENTIRE DAY is abuse??

Meaning if you dose 2 times you shouldn't be taking more than 5 grams a dose??

My tolerance is so high at this point that 5 grams will do NOTHING to me.

I realize you are correct that you will get WDs, but once you have reached the point, like I have, where you NEED at least 10-14 grams a dose to get high,and you want to get high, then there is no other option other than to simply not take any Kratom at all, or take 10-14 grams a dose and deal with having WDs.

At this point, I can only dose AT MOST one day a week because I know it will always happen to me.

But I can't just "knock it off" if I want to get high because a 90 day break from Kratom didn't lower my tolerance AT ALL.

So what is the point in taking such a small amount that it wouldn't even get me high??

There is none.

One single 10 gram dose WILL get me high, but not exactly where I want to be.

So if I start dosing only one dose per day...probably not more than one dose/one day per week, it will still probably be a dose of 12-14 grams so it will at least be worth it.

I'm just saying...the advice to just "knock it off" is kind of silly when you realize that someone like me has gotten to that point where less simply WILL NOT do anything.

So what you are asking for is akin to pure abstainance if the dose you are recommending won't even get the person high and in fact, it could be even worse because it's possible I MIGHT try a 9 gram dose, have it have almost no pleasurable effect and STILL get minor WD from it, so if I'm gonna get ANY WD at all I want at least ONE very strong high that lasts 4 hours or so.

They then only have two choices: 1) abstain completely if fewer than 10 grams won't get them high and thus won't be worth it (ME) 2) or take 10-14 grams one a day a weak minimum and deal with some withdrawal which kind of sucks but isn't the end of the world and ends in a couple days.

If your tolerance has never been that high and you've never gone 90 days straight without Kratom and saw that it had ZERO effect on your tolerance but you still LOVE the drug then you simply wouldn't understand.

 

[Slow_Mobius]

Just tried my first meang da strain. It was a red vein from mmm and holy Jesus was it it potent! Great pain reliever, pretty sedating

 

[Ludeachrist]

Just tried my first meang da strain. It was a red vein from mmm and holy Jesus was it it potent! Great pain reliever, pretty sedating

Maeng Da is definitely the way to go. It's expensive but gets the job done. It's better to order bulk online than get it from a head shop.

 

[Snake_Eyes]

i've found my desired method of kratom consumption.

1hour before - 400mg tagamet

1 heaping scoop of green vein bali with a 2nd 'top-off' splash into a bottle. fill with OJ and stir until there's some clumping at the top. scoop the clumps at the top and drop it into a second bottle. fill with OJ and stir.

then spend ~15 mins drinking the nasty mixture. then 50mg DPH for histamine release (i get bad itches in pelvic and ballsack region)

If you use a little hot water first the kratom will mix without clumping then you can fill the rest up with OJ and down it all at once.

 

[PotatoMan]

If you use a little hot water first the kratom will mix without clumping then you can fill the rest up with OJ and down it all at once.

wow thanks. heat is the answer my friends....

 

[Ludeachrist]

Heat is definitely the method. Boiling water stovetop stir in Kratom in coffee mug and water adding sugar for tea then throwing some cold water on the end to down it in a few gulps. Powder maeng da is god awful and until you get used to it will give you the tendency to hork if you have a weak stomach. Donald Trump laughs in the face of such mortal nuances. . His nickname is now iron stomach.

 

[belfort]

I haven't frequented this thread albeit I want to let everyone know that I went on a 3.5 month binge of 60grams a day of plain leaf and some extract at haphazard times and I've been clean for months now via cold turkey. I'm super prone to withdrawals and no lie, it was maybe 72 hours of discomfort... Just a glimmer of hope for people with addictive personalities who are slaves to this expensive habit.

Yikes, 60 grams a day!?thats gulping down a ton of powder!by 'discomfort' you mean what?u seem to make it sound on the easy side..could you go to work in that situation?