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The social justice warrior movement and its implications

jamal is a lazy way of saying you feel the need to be punk rock, for attention

trolls only know how to troll imo 'n' ime
 
I've been studying haitian creole for the last few weeks. In Kreyol, "Mwen nèg" doesn't mean 'I'm black' despite nèg originating in the French nègre, it means "I'm a person". OTOH, "Li blan" isn't "he's white" but 'he's foreign, not Haitian. There are other words for skin color. Also "Li pale franse" doesn't mean "he speaks French" but "he's a liar". Note that English does something similar with "Pardon my French".

Should Kreyol be cleansed? How is that different from using 'nigga' to mean 'comrade'? I'm not okay with any kind of legally enforced censorship, ever.
 
Noodle said:
jamal is a lazy way of saying you feel the need to be punk rock, for attention

trolls only know how to troll imo 'n' ime
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Free thought is free thought and when admonished for it nobody wins on a entertainment level or objective level. The only word from an Americans view point that has literally only one meaning in its exact spelling is 'nigger' and should be banned as it is vitriol in its purist form. Other than that censorship only limits a medium in every and any way imo
 
it's like you don't really know what words mean.
Droppersneck said:
...'nigger' and should be banned
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Droppersneck said:
I think we should be free to say it...
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so you think it should be banned but you also think you should be free to say it?

make your mind up. do you think it should be banned or do you think you should be free to say it? which is it?

alasdair
 
you're constantly talking about the importance of logic, droppers. well, your position seems to lack logic - you're contradicting yourself. how about you eat your own dog food for once?

i asked a very simple question. do you think it should be banned or do you think you should be free to say it? which is it?

alasdair
 
I think we should be able to say it, but I can certainly see why it's banned. As for faggot, fgt, phaggot, jamal, fellow, camel jockey, dune coon, towel head,gay, homo,autist, etc etc etc the list goes on forever and ever I think in the name of comedy in certain forums freedom of speech only serves this sites purpose. A large portion of the traffic of this site comes from a few specific forums and I do not see the application of political correctness doing anything but stifling it.
 
Droppersneck said:
I think we should be able to say it, but I can certainly see why it's banned. As for faggot, fgt, phaggot, jamal, fellow, camel jockey, dune coon, towel head,gay, homo,autist, etc etc etc the list goes on forever and ever I think in the name of comedy in certain forums freedom of speech only serves this sites purpose. A large portion of the traffic of this site comes from a few specific forums and I do not see the application of political correctness doing anything but stifling it.
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Oh Gosh droppers, when will you ever grow up?

You know how much "political correctness" bothers you? That's how much the words you just used bothers me.

How sad it must be for you, that in order to get a laugh you have to pick on people with special needs, blacks and homosexuals. I pity you.

Pick up a Goddamn dictionary and add some NEW words to that pathetic excuse of a vocabulary you have.

Not to mention, Bluelight is a Third Party owned outlet, it IS NOT bound by the first amendment. Case closed. There's the door, bye bye have fun, we will miss you.
 
Droppersneck said:
I think we should be able to say it, but I can certainly see why it's banned.
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nice equivocation.
Droppersneck said:
A large portion of the traffic of this site comes from a few specific forums...
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if quantity were the sole factor in a forum's success, you'd have a point.

sure, the lounge accounts for a significant amount of bl posts - about 15% of total site posts over the past 12 months. but a larger percentage of lounge posts (40%) come from just the top 10 posters than in any other bl forum. i have not performed a comprehensive study but in pd (picked at random as another very active forum), the number drops to about 30% (and 3 of the top 10 are forum moderators who you might reasonably expect to post more).

now, you'll argue that all forums have a small number of very active posters and that is true. but look at another metric. the top 10 posters in the lounge post over 95% of their posts in the lounge i.e. the lounge is the only forum in which they really participate. in pd, that figure drops to under 60%.

so the lounge is a forum where a small number of participants create a large proportion of the content and contribute very little else to the community at large. further, they feel that, just for lulz they should be exempt from the rules that every other forum on the site has no trouble whatsoever following.

seriously, droppers, explain to me the value as you see it?

alasdair
 
Not to mention, Bluelight is a Third Party owned outlet, it IS NOT bound by the first amendment. Case closed. There's the door, bye bye have fun, we will miss you.
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QFT! ( as they type )

:)
 
Id argue that many more people view the lounge and simply read for content choosing not to post or simply not having sign in credentials. I'd say the entertainment factor might not be as big of a draw to sign up as wanting specific hr advice but it certainly accounts for a decent portion. There are always a ton of guests in the lounge but I digress. All I'm saying is while your cause is noble it may not be serving the site IMHO
 
"it may not be serving the site IMHO"

how so? maybe it's the lounge that's not serving the site?

i have demonstrated pretty simply that, in terms of traffic, the people who provide much of the content in the lounge don't give much, if anything, to the larger community of which the lounge is a part.

so i'll ask again, what is the value as you see it?

alasdair
 
Droppersneck said:
Free thought is free thought and when admonished for it nobody wins on a entertainment level or objective level. The only word from an Americans view point that has literally only one meaning in its exact spelling is 'nigger' and should be banned as it is vitriol in its purist form. Other than that censorship only limits a medium in every and any way imo
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Wow, am I going to preach freedom to droppers in this post for a change? Let's find out.

I don't think any word should be banned, period. Even that one should be legal to say, regardless of how vile it may be. The only time speech should be limited is when it's used intentionally to cause panic or physically hurt someone (ie- yelling fire, slander etc). The banning of Huckleberry Finn from public classrooms recently is a good example of unnecessary censorship. The book uses the word in it's historical context, as it was written in the 19th century and the book itself is a milestone in American literature. We can't start burning books again.


However, private entities can choose what is or isn't acceptable within their own jurisdiction. If I say you can't say the word "tomato" in my house, I have every right to ask you to leave if you use it. Likewise, on BL, we have our own set of rules of what is and isn't acceptable to say, and they are to be followed. Context is also key, as we've seen in this thread. Using the words for analytical purposes isn't the same as using them freely in ordinary conversation. I think the vast majority of us are aware of this, but some refuse to acknowledge it.

No one is taking away your free speech, you're free to use whatever language you like elsewhere on the internet. You won't go to jail for using a word (unless you're Edward Snowden or Julian Assange, but lets be real), but you might be blocked access from a private community that does not allow such words.
 
I'd love to know the data of the number of members who originally signed up due to the HR component of bluelight who now post exclusively in the Darkside and sober living?

It would be an interesting performance target measure of the success of the drug forums if after say 3-5 years of being a member, how many are still able to safely enjoy drug taking and how many have been discouraged from becoming full blown addicts.

Cross reference this against those who took offence to being called a faggot or a retard and perhaps there might be a statistical correlation?
 
Droppersneck said:
I'll concede

Alasdairm


You know I'm a principled person that very much likes to push the envelope in the hopes of meeting potential. You're the one running matrices on the data so it is hard to argue with you.
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droppers, i am asking a pretty simple question and making some very simple points and you're not willing or able to provide counterpoint. what conclusion am i supposed to draw?

alasdair
 
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