You pick a particular demographic within the right-wing to demonize the entire right side of the spectrum.
That's not what I'm doing at all. I have right wing friends and I'm well aware of the spectrum. What I'm saying is that the most hatred and discrimination I've experienced in my life has been from people on the right.
I've also experienced discrimination from leftist social justice people too, for various reasons (being a man, etc). But nothing compares to the abuse I've suffered from right wingers.
There's intolerance all over the place but as a political force the right wing are less tolerant. They view change and social modification with great suspicion, even when all the evidence shows it's a good thing. They attack the evidence itself as being from leftist institutions and therefore not credible.
If you want to stay in your bubble then just own up to that. Don't make it about how the world is in some kind of leftist conspiracy.
Nonsense. This is like the environmentalists claiming they care about the environment and insinuating the rest of the population doesn't give a shit. It's annoyingly untrue. And as the case with both movements they only give a shit about you if you fit into one of their nice boxes or criteria.. if you happen to disagree (this point has been made already in the thread) then you're out and ostracized.
I have not found this to be true with the people who are doing the actual social justice work out in the real world, on the ground level. Most of the exclusivity comes from ideologues who aren't real activists. I've had some really amazing interactions with academic activists who are involved in high level stuff.
The problem with social justice people is that they can't make distinctions between
systems phenomena and individual level interactions; thus white guys get oppressed in discussions for being white, even though they too have individual stories.
Nonetheless, right wingers, as a group from a systems point of view, are far more discriminatory and vitriolic. I can't really fathom why you'd think social conservatives are en par with social liberals. Saying that all lefties are just faking it is disingenuous. It couldn't be, I dunno, because people want to refine the way humans respect one another? The left gave us secular humanism, the right gave us religious dogma and "traditionalism" in such a narrow field that it excluded so much human variation. Sorry, but your arguments don't add up, historically.
We have much greater access to knowledge and wisdom from the human ethnosphere now that people don't have to hide their true nature as much in order to fit into a traditional model.
Which is exactly what has happened in the 20th century. Bunch of whining people who thought they knew and understood better than the accumulated human wisdom of countless generations, overthrowing this established wisdom in favor of untried methods of social contract and such. And look where we are now.. can't call a retarded child a retarded child, so we lie and call them exceptional children to make ourselves feel less guilty for no reason what so ever. Total idiocy.
Hey, I'm not saying toss out tradition. Through our other conversations elsewhere on the boards you know that I value traditional knowledge in various ways. But that doesn't give you a right to be an asshole to someone, or run your mouth and then tell them to just deal with it -- not when there's so much information available these days to allay even the most basic ignorance. And in your own words, just because it's old or traditional, doesn't automatically make it better or more correct. Most people were illiterate until the past 300 years. Humans also get stuck in tradition when they are too ignorant to question anything... and then it plays out over hundreds of years and right wingers get to call it correct just because of longevity. I don't agree with that. Nothing is sacrosanct to the gaze of critical thought.
Not to mention, it's not even accurate to say that human tradition is unbroken. There are plenty of examples in human history where people broke out of the mold. I think you need to do more studying into history, instead of accepting the current world at face value. Humanity works in cycles, not straight lines.
Fact is, ignorance is always a choice. Personally, I find your examples hyperbolic, and too selective. Have you ever spent significant time with disabled people? I'm talking about people disabled from birth. I have news from you, they get called retarded regularly, and it's harmful to their psyches. So while you're crying about freedom of speech, they have an actual life story that has been impacted by marginalization.
It's possible to point out how someone is different without being a total idiot about it. What I notice about right wingers is that they associate becoming more sensitive to others as becoming more dumbed down or something... like the whole spiel about how men are becoming weaker just because we don't get into fist fights and do stereotypically manly things as much anymore.
I don't see what's so bad about promoting a more respectful atmosphere. Your freedoms are not really being impinged upon.
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