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EADD Heroin discussion v.21 -- Big shout out to kkattastic :)

It's funny; but no matter how bad you've got your own symptoms of your own withdrawal, the moment there's just the first, faintest little whiff of a score in the air, things suddenly don't seem as bad as before. Your phone screen hasn't even gone dark yet; but even as it's already trying to shine through your jeans pocket lining, your body has found some last reserve of something from somewhere to get you through this. From the moment you step away from the cash machine, your toenails no longer ache, your body feels as though it's at the right temperature for once. Even the dreaded Treacle Trudge evaporates; and the final journey to the rendezvous point, until a few short minutes ago an unimaginable nightmare of a prospect, is just like sliding down a rainbow, right into the waiting arms of your dealer.

On the ride home, your stash feels like an enormous pimple on your arse. But you know every bump, every change of direction, and the familiarity comforts you; keeps you grounded. Now the anticipation is really building; you are as taut as the thin layer of unforgiving denim that separates it from the world. Next time. you think to yourself, you should bring a special little tooter that will fit in your cigarette packet, a square of Susan and a lighter, and find yourself a secluded spot to sample the merchandise as soon as possible. But next time is a long way off. For now, it's enough to sit and let out a quiet sigh, thinking of all the times you have made this journey before; and of the times no doubt to come. Soon enough you will pounce with your tooter on the thin plume of vapour; sucking greedily at the aluminium nipple, enveloped in the soft, warm, snug, fleecy blanket of heroin.
 
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damn talk about trigger city. I wish I could try smoking heroin but its just not feasible for me

good post though Julie I can relate to those feels
 
Well after melting my head wiith 3fpm and penny acid last week im going to be boring this weekend, get some new blu rays and stick to the smack and weed. Much more healthy for my short term insight. The acid is far too good at putting things in perspective too much of that shit and I might consider a positive behaviour change.
 
Chippendale said:
I used to pay a tenner or just under for 100mg mst. no idea what the average price is but based on that I'd say go for it.
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I just bought 19 10mg MSTs for a tenner, My mate had bought them for his girlfriend but she said she didn't like them. He told me that they have a coating that she didn't remove and that's why she never got much from them. He said if I want them regularly he know a guy who wants a quid a pop for the 10mg ones so a tenner for a 100mg seems right. I would love to get my hands on some of the 200mg ones. Thanks for your info...:)
 
No worries man - you got a sweet deal - I used to just chew them to a pulp and then swallow down with a gulp of water. Never felt like time release was that noticeable. Hits pretty hard! Enjoy!

Used to get them from a guy with a script but he'd shoot them into his groin...so I'd swap him bags of gear for his script instead.
 
I went down to lifeline today for my induction, and got placed in the wrong one with the alcoholics and it wasn't until i'd finished all my paperwork they realised when I scored 8/30 where as everyone else had 24+/30.. Ended up getting a solo induction sat outside in the sun, I ended up being bladder shy when it came to giving a urine sample though and it got me thinking that I'm not as weak as I think and that I should just do the withdrawal cold turkey (with a few vallies atleast), what's a week of pain compared to the hassle of getting put on methadone and all the drug tests, appointments and possible future problems if I want to work a job that checks my medical history. I get a drugs worker though who I have an appointment with the monday after next by which time I should hopefully have had the willpower to go through with it and be in the depths of PAWS. This is going to either be one of ior the worst withdrawal i've had before considering how high my habit's been recently, not looking forward to saturday ny which time the last of the gear I have now will be gone ugh.

I'm going to spend tomorrow tidying my room thoroughly (nothing worse than withdrawing in a messy room with crap all over the place), I'm not sure why but I bought a load of airfix models I used to do them all the time when I was a kid, thought they might distract me a bit building a mini plane to keep my mind occupied.
 
Chippendale said:
No worries man - you got a sweet deal - I used to just chew them to a pulp and then swallow down with a gulp of water. Never felt like time release was that noticeable. Hits pretty hard! Enjoy!

Used to get them from a guy with a script but he'd shoot them into his groin...so I'd swap him bags of gear for his script instead.
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These are the exact pills I got:

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I thought IR meant instant release so I wonder why I was recommended to remove the plastic coating. I have a bit of an opiate tolerance just now but I've been cutting down. I'm going to keep them by for when I ever get rid of my tolerance.


@ Kat: £35 seems a really good price for 10 x 100mg, I was told a 100mg MST goes for a tenner. You could make a small fortune with that prescription.
 
do they prescribe morphine pills a lot in the UK? I'm just curious because they are actually less common than oxycodone or hydrocodone in the US even though the potential for abuse is way less than either of those two IMO.

a relative of mine had cancer like 4 years ago so they get way too many 15mg IR morphine pills so ive done my share of them. theyre alright to shoot up but the high is over rather quickly and redosing doesnt really seem to have any effect.
 
trip2themoon said:
I thought IR meant instant release so I wonder why I was recommended to remove the plastic coating
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Yeah IR should mean instant release - guess it couldn't hurt to remove it anyway.

subotai said:
do they prescribe morphine pills a lot in the UK? I'm just curious because they are actually less common than oxycodone or hydrocodone in the US even though the potential for abuse is way less than either of those two IMO.
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I've never come across someone with an oxy script in the uk - but I did meet a long time addict who was being given Morphine maintenance treatment as he'd tried years of methadone/subutex/endless therapy, nothing was working.

He tried asking for diamorphine but they wouldn't give that to him (he felt he was being discriminated against due to his class...) - so they settled and gave him a morphine script. Think it was 500mg a day? Don't recall, a decent amount.

He had a pretty sweet deal, but eventually he couldn't help but start trying to shoot the pills in his groin - leading to some sort of medical emergency - followed by his attempt to get off opiates using Ibogaine, losing ties with the clinic, losing the script, and ending back on smack/methadone a week later. :|
 
BecomingJulie said:
It's funny; but no matter how bad you've got your own symptoms of your own withdrawal, the moment there's just the first, faintest little whiff of a score in the air, things suddenly don't seem as bad as before. Your phone screen hasn't even gone dark yet; but even as it's already trying to shine through your jeans pocket lining, your body has found some last reserve of something from somewhere to get you through this. From the moment you step away from the cash machine, your toenails no longer ache, your body feels as though it's at the right temperature for once. Even the dreaded Treacle Trudge evaporates; and the final journey to the rendezvous point, until a few short minutes ago an unimaginable nightmare of a prospect, is just like sliding down a rainbow, right into the waiting arms of your dealer.

On the ride home, your stash feels like an enormous pimple on your arse. But you know every bump, every change of direction, and the familiarity comforts you; keeps you grounded. Now the anticipation is really building; you are as taut as the thin layer of unforgiving denim that separates it from the world. Next time. you think to yourself, you should bring a special little tooter that will fit in your cigarette packet, a square of Susan and a lighter, and find yourself a secluded spot to sample the merchandise as soon as possible. But next time is a long way off. For now, it's enough to sit and let out a quiet sigh, thinking of all the times you have made this journey before; and of the times no doubt to come. Soon enough you will pounce with your tooter on the thin plume of vapour; sucking greedily at the aluminium nipple, enveloped in the soft, warm, snug, fleecy blanket of heroin.
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Couldn't have put it better myself.
 
its definitely easier to get addicted to oxy/hydro because you can just pop them orally and feel the full effects.

even if you get morphine IRs, taking them orally has a pretty low BA % and shooting them up lasts for about 3 minutes roughly. You could snort them but the % absorbed into your body isnt much better than eating them iirc.

thats what happened in the states, pharm companies and doctors pushed insane amounts of pain killers that could be abused by simply eating a pill. This caused millions of people who would have never thought about snorting or shooting a pill to get started by eating them, and from there we all know how the cycle of addiction works.

and then they just did a complete 180 about 5-6 years ago after they already made their billions (trillions?) when they realized that drugs are bad mmkay? and threw all this bullshit time release gel technology into pills and now both people with actual prescriptions and people who just wanted to get high moved onto heroin or they emptied their bank accounts to pay for pills that cost twice as much now solely because you can abuse them (roxis)

of course, its pretty easy to blow your money on heroin too.

we're all fucked
 
my 100mg morphines are XR.they come in caps with little grains in and each grain has it's coating,so it is very hard to bypass the XR.
I did something very irresponsible this weekend.
I was supposed to be getting some weed for my nephew,but the guy i was getting it from let me down.since i stopped using street drugs,i have few contacts so nothing i could do.but i had some xanax on me,so i offered him 1.eventually he had 2 and just kept saying he couldn't feel anything.2mg to a benzo naive surprised me.
but i also had my morphine with me.i said he couldn't take 100mg-a completely opiate naive-scared he would od,so i emptied the cap and split off about 20mg and let him have that(he didn't want to snort them so i said to just rub it on his gums-that's what i had to do in hospital when i had a gastric drain in).i left the rest on the mantle piece and over the period of the night he took it all,bit at a time.he came in the early hours to ask me for more.i put my foot down and said it was far too dangerous.he accepted this.when i got up in the morning he was half asleep but they(him and his friend who had taken nothing except the alcohol they drank with it)got up and went in the hot tub for a while.then his friend left and he fell into a deep sleep on the sofa.i kept checking on him.his dad arrived home about 3.30pm and he was still out of it.I said they had been up all night and morning,so he was just knackered.his dad got him to go up to bed.i managed to whisper to him,"you look fucked.sleep on your side or your front in case.Now I am just hoping he is OK.
I have always allowed my kids to use drugs if they get them thru me and that i am there.But it's different with someone elses kid.He should just sleep it off
His doc prescribes prozac for him which i think is wrong at his age.said to be for his anxiety but i have read of suicides amongst young people on prozac and am suspicious of it.I left him a few xanax and said not to take them every day as they are addictive.
I am going to get him some weed and maybe some of this acid that stee was talking about.but no more morphine,however much he asks for it.is just too risky.
 
iget the 100mg round grey morphine mst pills and the orange 10mg mst as well. they are great and the time release doesnt seem to be an issue if i wet them in my mouth and rub off the coating leaving a white pill. i crush this between two knives or spoons then chop it real fine, pop it into a cup with some hot water stand for ten mins and chug it down with gfj.

these beauties have been good for me, really helped me stabilise over thelast couple of years .been so long off street gear i probably couldnt find any if i tried. anyway im managing to hold down a job and im stable...for now!
 
my main dealer got all salty at me tot day because I bought some different dope right down the street from him, and its like dude Ive given you so much money over the past 5 months I ou dont owe you shit man especially wen he had two less-than-average sales back-to-back (luckily it wasnt for me lol) so I did some shopping around damn. its a big city. I got shit from 3 different spots that day and now I got a new spot that I go to

you go where the good dope is. I would think my drug dealer of all people would know that...
 
It's funny how drug dealers think you should be loyal and always buy from them even though they never give you any 'bonuses' for that loyalty or anything at all,not even constant quality.they get so pissy if you buy,or they think you are buying from someone else.
 
kkattastic said:
It's funny how drug dealers think you should be loyal and always buy from them even though they never give you any 'bonuses' for that loyalty or anything at all,not even constant quality.they get so pissy if you buy,or they think you are buying from someone else.
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My felllas fairly safe - i dont get many straight up freebies but he often gives me testers when hes looking to change up. Ive sent a couple of bad reviews back his way and his gears remained consistently good since Christmas, so maybe hes taking my comments on board. Its embaressing tho when the size of his testers puts his stock bags to shame.
 
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