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Veganism/vegetarianism and "ethical" lifestyle choices
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I've only really ever tried to be unbiased. I certainly wouldn't say that I've succeeded. I guess you are ideologically 100% pure unlike every other human ever. Your problem is that you've let your bias inform your reading of the thread. You are unable to separate the idea's in the OP from the poster. I made very effort to be as open-minded as humanly possible, but some people have found that to be either insincere or insulting. Its fallen short of the mark, but at least I tried. I'm not sure you have which is unfair.
Are you always this flippant? I'm happy to listen to whatever idea's you have, but not when you act like you have been. You keep talking about things that happened like 3 weeks ago which was 3 weeks before I'd ever even read your name before. It seems kind of like you've just wanted to start shit from the get-go and then back away from it once a few people raised their concern.
I'm tempted to bait you because I think you deserve it, but I'm too stoned.
That's the same pretty bad dick joke that you made earlier. It hasn't really improved with age.
Out of some kind of respect for people, why don't you keep this shit in the Lounge? Seriously, its just unpleasant in this context.
![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
Tl;dr
I told you I'd leave meat for good. I'm a man of my word. No more me being a dirty carnie junkie. It's all about you and me now. Nonetheless, I'd like to see how vegan food stacks up to dirty carnie food so list your top 3 dishes. Vegan of course.
I'm sorry. You win. You're too clever a gal for me
murphythecat
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the cosmos can only be found within your own mind and body. theres only your nature and your nature indeed experience good and wrong and can do good and bad things which affect your ''reality''
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What 23
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Dude..
Hey Murphy (ahem. penis). The guy had a point since we are all being doobers tonight. When you quote at the end as you do, it sometimes makes it seem odd. I don't mean this as an attack. Why it seems odd, is that it is for one irregular. No other posters do it. For two... When one is reading a thread and suddenly comes your post, where it is clear it is a response to another post from the start, it seems out of order, and like "huh? Who are you talking to?". It just causes some confusion, and it is abnormal. For me, at least, I don't process it as smoothly. When it is the normal quote first your response after, you must see it is more natural and people can see what you're responding to in a way that is more natural. Add that to that you're basically like an evangelist trying to make people feel guilty for touching their naked girlfriends they aren't married to, and you must admit you aren't surprised why people might have difficulty with you.
Hey Murphy (ahem. penis). The guy had a point since we are all being doobers tonight. When you quote at the end as you do, it sometimes makes it seem odd. I don't mean this as an attack. Why it seems odd, is that it is for one irregular. No other posters do it. For two... When one is reading a thread and suddenly comes your post, where it is clear it is a response to another post from the start, it seems out of order, and like "huh? Who are you talking to?". It just causes some confusion, and it is abnormal. For me, at least, I don't process it as smoothly. When it is the normal quote first your response after, you must see it is more natural and people can see what you're responding to in a way that is more natural. Add that to that you're basically like an evangelist trying to make people feel guilty for touching their naked girlfriends they aren't married to, and you must admit you aren't surprised why people might have difficulty with you.
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GodandLove
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Umm okay, that's basically what I just said to you, just worded differently. But okay.
Ummm I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say here? My nature? There is no my and there is no your. We don't just "affect" reality, we create it. We are creators, not just affectors, but CREATORS! We are drawing from infinity, we are allowed to do and experience whatever we wish. We set the rules of the game, were the ones who program it. We are in charge of our own fates, of our own destinies. As I said before, good and evil do not exist, they don't affect the outcome of ones desired end nor will they ever. Good and Evil are not causalities. They are point of views, they a misguided perceptions, they are falsehoods. They hold no substance. Gravity doesn't bow to goodness, it doesn't flee from evil, it's a universal force that is free of discrimination. It holds all human beings in place as if all were equal. This is how existence is written.
I advise you to dig a little deeper into yourself.
swilow
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I enjoy the playing out of atavistic misperceptions here :D
I'm eating popped sprouted quinoa. Quinoa cannot scream for mercy.
I'm eating popped sprouted quinoa. Quinoa cannot scream for mercy.
Journyman16
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I have heard good things about quinoa - I have some to grow in my soon-to-be-built greenhouse aquaponics system.
I think everything can scream for mercy - it's just sometimes they may not be in our 'space.' :D
I think everything can scream for mercy - it's just sometimes they may not be in our 'space.' :D
GodandLove
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Hey willow, you've eaten meat before right?
Why not give yourself a break and go out and treat yourself to a nice steak.?
I think you've earned it.
It's not gonna hurt anything, it'll be like your cheat day.
Come on, just go to outback steakhouse and get yourself something nice. Perhaps even a rack of ribs. Mmmmmmmm ribs.
You've got nothing to lose, not like you haven't eaten meat before. You know what its like.
So just think on that okay, alright buddy, I'll see you around.
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tbph the first time I ate meat after not eating meat for years or something, I felt knocked down. It always made me feel dirty. Not guilty, but like... Well. I don't know. It was a different energy. As a vegetarian and vegan I had a high hum energy going on. I felt a connection to the higher. Then I ate meat and it felt like poison. But I didn't experience the same reactions. And I honestly experience pain with just about everything I consume. I just choose what hurts the least, usually, or fulfills requirements without hurting as much. Without feeling like I might suffocate or something due to rapid inflammation. I don't really think I will, because I am a badass and cannot die, but I guess I can never really explain it to people, who are not hypersensitive, as I am, what it is like. But meat... At least... Is densely packed, easily digestible... Yea. And I eat sprouted nuts of sorts, if I get lucky (if mold is nil). I could eat a lot more things, but as I said, it is painful. I choose least pain, and am a bit cornered. This is also why I become defensive. I also don't really want compassion, or at least the kind that offers advice. I only want understanding. This doesn't even mean I want to be liked. I mean, who doesn't? But, the truth is I would really kill you, more than likely, when it came down to it. Or I would sacrifice myself for you (for myself, as I would be applying myself to concepts I have). The later option is most likely. But, if you wanted to be a fascist, the former. You'd be getting fascisted.
Basically, yea, it feels bad. But I can't get into that. I may just decide to stop sometime. I feel like I reject everything. And I've always been hateful. I seem to like something to hate. Or not really actively be in a state of hate against, but I will have pent up tension or pain that I'll release. I think we all do it. We project our world onto what others are saying. We are all tossing shapes up into the air and sometimes it is more like pareidolia what others see. What we see. I don't know. I'm talking bullshit.
As always.
But yes.
Meat eating is in ways bad.
But so are we. Sinful.
And anal sex is wrong. I mean really. But it is pretty cool. At least the last time I did it.
Damn.
Basically, yea, it feels bad. But I can't get into that. I may just decide to stop sometime. I feel like I reject everything. And I've always been hateful. I seem to like something to hate. Or not really actively be in a state of hate against, but I will have pent up tension or pain that I'll release. I think we all do it. We project our world onto what others are saying. We are all tossing shapes up into the air and sometimes it is more like pareidolia what others see. What we see. I don't know. I'm talking bullshit.
As always.
But yes.
Meat eating is in ways bad.
But so are we. Sinful.
And anal sex is wrong. I mean really. But it is pretty cool. At least the last time I did it.
Damn.
rickolasnice
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Why do you assume willow wants to eat meat?
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Nice post. Good perspective. A very honest one.
ForEverAfter
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God&Love, (Re: what is quoted above)
Nobody lives their life with no sense of right and wrong, they only discount certain things as wrong when it's convenient to them. Everybody has a moral compass. The vegetarians and vegans in this thread are just expressing their opinions about the topic at hand. Nobody is projecting illusions of morality anymore than anybody projects illusions throughout their daily life.
That sounds amazing, but - really - it's bullshit.
There are things that are off limits for you.
You are just as human as the rest of us.
I'd wager that you'd have moral issues with stealing from the poor or taking advantage of vulnerable people.
If not, then you're not a very good person IMO.
Morality is an "illusion" as much as everything is illusory... But we need to maintain the illusion, all of us.
We can recognize that everything is meaningless, in other words, but can't live that way.
Your sarcastic post about willow eating meat indicates, to me, that you're not particularly enlightened.
No more than the rest of us, anyway... You're just the latest person to attempt to ethically justify the unjustifiable.
Nobody lives their life with no sense of right and wrong, they only discount certain things as wrong when it's convenient to them. Everybody has a moral compass. The vegetarians and vegans in this thread are just expressing their opinions about the topic at hand. Nobody is projecting illusions of morality anymore than anybody projects illusions throughout their daily life.
That sounds amazing, but - really - it's bullshit.
There are things that are off limits for you.
You are just as human as the rest of us.
I'd wager that you'd have moral issues with stealing from the poor or taking advantage of vulnerable people.
If not, then you're not a very good person IMO.
Morality is an "illusion" as much as everything is illusory... But we need to maintain the illusion, all of us.
We can recognize that everything is meaningless, in other words, but can't live that way.
Your sarcastic post about willow eating meat indicates, to me, that you're not particularly enlightened.
No more than the rest of us, anyway... You're just the latest person to attempt to ethically justify the unjustifiable.