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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 2C-T-7 Thread

Yeah there was no exaggeration about the block thing either... And I'm not a runner... The trip itself was not worth the bodyload. It was 25mg according to my scale. 2C-I went great with 4-subs though, they mellowed the stimulation and added the color and mental headspace 2C-I was missing.

We actually discovered something interesting in our group... 2C-I was liked more by the females and 2C-E by the males. Was an interesting discovery and the females didn't appear to get stimulated anywhere near as much as the males at the same dose of 2C-I but they all reported disliking the bodyload of 2C-E enough to not want to do it again.
 
Yehh, I actually like 2C-I quite a bit. It's my first real 2C besides 2C-P, but from my limited knowledge 2C-P is supposedly very different from the others. I remember it well, but I don't have any experience to compare it to other 2Cs. Except 2C-I, and they were indeed different in basically all aspects from each other.

But since I didn't have much of the 2C-I since the start, I'm purposefully not taking it often; 3-4 times a year at most. I also wanted to save it for combos too. :)

The only 2Cs left I want to do are B, E, maybe C, but def T7.
 
My first run in with 2c-i was also a bit meh, definitely very stimulating, and not a manageable stimulation like LSD. I also wouldn't call it fully psychedelic, but that's just been my experience as I know some people have deep trips with the stuff. What kept me coming back though was the visuals, they're just so structured and mathmaticaly geometric, absolutely beautiful! It also has a nice bright, warm colored theme for me which is a huge preference that I find makes for a more comforting trip. Out of the 2c's I've tried, this one had the most attractive visuals by far. 2c-e has some appealing visuals as well, but the substance is so deep that the visuals are a mere background with the mental insanity taking the forefront.

Anyways, my second and most recent run in with 2c-i was absolutely phenomenal, it definitely had all the aspects of a 2c-i trip, but the overstimulation and muscle tension were essentially non existent. I had about 3 trips with this batch so it wasn't a "one off". When I added medium doses of kratom on the third trip, it was completely without side effects and the body high was just so amazing, almost on par with a monoamine releaser. This bumped the substance into my top 10, possibly even top 5. My only complaint, like 2c-c, is I need rediculous doses to get a decent trip... like huge doses :\. People should use this substance with caution though, as it seems to have a tendency to cause residual visuals lasting up to months when used twice in a row ime, and there are several reports of others experiencing the same. Haha anyways, I just realized this isn't even the 2c-i thread so forgive me =D
 
2C-I does have very mathematically structured visuals, you're right. It really is pretty beautiful visually. I've had some relatively profound moments on it, and actually one really intense group contact/shared high from it (without anyone knowing I was on it) that really tripped me out. It's a good drug, it's actually a really unique headspace, not like any other psychedelic really. I don't generally think of it as fully psychedelic though. I really want to combine it with MXE again, that was a really cool trip. There were christmas lights outside and they were all halo... but the halos were these beautifully intricate lattice formations, and they were sending brilliant beams of color into my eyes.
 
Solipsis said:
You also tried 2C-T-4, correct? How does that one fit in with findings you are talking about just now?
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Done it 3 times - all the reports here I believe; it isn't the most exciting material out there but it does have something; doesn't have any rough speediness so that makes it preferable to 2C-I and 2CT-7 for me at least.
 
I was actually wondering about comparisons considering I have tried 2C-T-2, 2C-T-7 and 2C-T-21... just wondering how T-4 would be different. Seems relevant to 2C-T-7's qualities which by the way I find the absolute best of the bunch even if it is very unreliable fickle stuff dose-effect wise.

T-7 has enabled the best, personal and deepest but easiest talks of my life and besides that it feels very lush and rich, as if it has sophisticated character. It's less spiritual for me than mescaline but probably even warmer and more therapeutic than it.
T-2 came up a bit short for me. I had a lot of side effects but it did feel like it had worthwhile potential... I found it more gentle MDMA like in a way, pretty glowy but not quite as well-formed.
 
Transform said:
2C-T-7 has never been proven in any way to be an MAOI but the suspicion was raised as a way to explain its ability to cause fatalities in a way that others in the class have not.

If it is an MAOI it doesn't appear to be a very strong one but it is certainly worth exercising caution. I would be comfortable mixing MXE and 2C-T-7 at moderate doses or on the comedown of one another but as mentioned, I would tread carefully.
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Anyone with any personal experience?

I will be trying 2ct-7 sometime in the next week or three. Will most likely start with a test dose of 5-10mg plugged to get a feel and ramp up as warranted, most probably over two more doses. MXE or MXM (would mxm be better if we went with the OMG NOZ MAOI and serotonin train of thought or would it make a difference?) will almost definatly be included at some point.

Is there any reason DPT or 2c-b wouldn't mix with 2ct-7? These are the things I have access too, and once I start tripping sometimes I start mixing :)
 
Having tried all 3 separately; dpt, 2c-b and 2ct-7 I reckon that dpt would be the more interesting one to mix w 2ct-7. Can't say why, mostly a hunch. Maybe because they have less overlap in effects, so more chance for interesting synergy.
 
For your safety I would try 2ct-7 on its own, I wouldn't mix it with anything to begin with, I've had some really strange reactions to this drug, the dose response curve is really strange, DO NOT SNORT THIS!

When u get used to it maybe a bump of mxe but not much, no point with 2cb.. dpt sounds interesting mix, be careful with this stuff
 
I am still fascinated by this one. It's one of those I'd love to try, but probably won't ever. Same goes with Bromo D Fly, heroin, dmt, coke, k, etc.

It's fascinating, but put me to the task of doing it, and I'll decline. :) There are just some things I won't do or take risks for.

But then I'll take risks for other chems. Yeah, makes a lot of sense...plus I drew a line more than a decade ago to not ever insufflate or IV/IM anything.

Anyway, I'm interested in hearing about this one as of late. As always, stay safe.
 
Tool this last night at a pretty hefty combined dosage over the night. With a good amount of mxe...All was well,.adventures in weird 2ct- 7 land. Probably close to 75 mg 2ct 7 pluggedand 150+ mxe. 2ct 7 was just weird. Like it was there, but Ai almost felt sober off and on... Until O added the dpt t+6 hrs or so. It was like "oh I've just been chilln dormant, now for the immersive clusterfuck of non reality you've been fiending

Decded to dose 50mg dpt and top it off with mxe... Catapulted straight into the most immersive outlandish Dpt I can imagine. Managed to hold on for a bit until the only piece of reality left was the etizolam dropper bottle I had begun clutching in my hand. Took I don't know how many mgs, perhaps closer to 10 than 2 based on dropper level this morning... Still had to ride out insanity for a bit. A few years Ag I would have been toast. Just sat there chanting "aum" on my mind as something to hold onto while being thrown about by non ordinary reality...

It's funny I wake up and immediately thought ,"FUCK! I have to do that again but dose a little lower all around BC that was some fucking interesting shit!!! I was all good until I reached a place.where.I was told I could get off and leave this life behind. Abandon ship so to speak, and let someone else take over... Fuck
most DMT like dpt trip ever.

Felt like I went through worlds where souls/whatnot are lost BC of suicides... Other fucked up things like that. Like I had gone so.far out I could choose which version of reality O could come.back too. Which was interesting at first.but started to freak me out. Toooo much information and not enough processing ability. Could only put on headphones of my "safety" music, start puttin etiz drops under tongue, sitting meditating refusing to move BC who knows where I would have ended up, and holding onto that thought of the one word.that creates the flow of all realities...

And fuck I can't wait to do it again... Wtf is wrong with me?
 
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Sounds pretty amazing honestly. Certainly unnerving though. I'm not sure anything is wrong with you. :) I've had trips where I was sure at the time I could have chosen to exit, or that I could change the reality I would exist in from then on, and I hope to have those experiences again. Not too often of course.
 
i have always really wanted to to try T7, T2, T21. i really like the 2C's i have tried, specifically 2C-B. its been years since ive had any, barring 25i.

i dont want to break any rules here (mods feel free to snip this is if i break any)--but is this stuff still around? only from the grey market?
 
Wow, 75mg??

Isn't a threshold dose around 12-15mg?

And I thought my tolerance was high. =O

Good thing you're all safe and sound at that dose.
 
T7 has a hugely variable dose-response curve for people, moreso than almost anything else. I remember morninggloryseed would always talk about how he needs 70+mg to get a full trip. But then there are others who trip balls at even 20mg. Personally 35mg for me didn't even produce visuals, I felt I could have taken a lot more.
 
Ah, I see. Yeah, that just makes me scared to try it even more. I've always wanted to try this one, but I just have a hunch that I might react badly to it.

lol, that's funny because some of the reports on Erowid are what got me interested in the first place, and I believe I read one of his. This was during my very early 20's too, when I think it wasn't made illegal yet or it just barely was.

Fascinating stuff though. :)
 
yah, it was one wild ride. I wrote that post on my phone immediatly upon waking up while it was fresh in my mind. Still in a tiz haze with a bit of psychedelic hangover. Need edit OP from "sum" to "aum" though... lol.

last thing I knew i was meditating trying to hold on (maybe I shoulde have let go ;-) )and then I wake up in my bed.

I dunno.. I've taken 50mg dpt. Even taken like 150-175 mixed with some mdma and no fucks were given.

This was soooooooooo intense. As much as I fantasize about death/suicide, leaving this world behind, it scared the shit out of me feeling like I acually had the option to just get up and switch out with someone... I fucking love DPT. She's a trickster, lots to teach, but will fuck you over sideways and run cackling away with glee... jeebus christ allmighty.

The 2ct-7 absolutely refused to dissolve in water. I didn't apply any hot bath though. I wonder if using PG would work better? I guess i should ask that in the big n dandy plugging thread. It was definatly 2ct-7 though. I have a notoriously high tolerance sometimes sooo.

My dosing schedule was
t- 0 - 15mg 2ct-7
t-130 - 27 mg 2ct-7
t-310 - 30mg 2ct-7
t-530 50mg dpt

I find that with plugging, and especially mixing chems, I don't really run into immediate tolerance. I like to start out low, testing the waters, and ramp up dose from there. Always works really well for me.
each one of those redoses had varying amounts of mxe. I mean it was a really good trip... That 50mg dpt just hit iike a train. I did well for a while, much better than I would have years ago, it was just getting to the point where I might have ended up doing something physically dangerous, due in no small part to the manic high dose of mxe, so I started to take the etiz....

I dunno. k1159 or whatever. Don't be scared, you only live once... until you die and live again.

also, I need to edit my original post and put "aum" instead of sum. That has really started to focus me and save me from fucked up tangents. Just centering, chanting aum, giving permission for those that love and want to help me to stay and do so, and for all others to leave my presence. Who knows how much it works, but my intentions are getting stronger each time.

I think the next 2ct-7 I will start with 40mg plugged and see what happens.

Also, I have sone unfinished buisness with 2c-e. Questions I need answered from "difficult" experiences, so that one is up next as well. And that DPT, scares me to the bone, but limitless potential for exploration. Combininb DPT with some MDMA is a superb combo IMO. Can dose high and lose completely the fear, face what is to face....
 
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I really wanna try this and 2C-T-2 so I can experience the rest of the magical half dozen. Still need to try 2C-E and DOM but I can actually get those / have them in my stash. Not seen T7 or T2 anywhere in the last 3 years other than a very untrustworthy looking Chinese vendor on Silk Road 1.. Ah well
 
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