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Really Nice Codeine Thread

Kota said:
I've never been a huge opie person, but I've recently found myself with access to 500/20 APAP/DHC. How do I get the most out of these with the least damage to my poor unfortunate liver?
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CWE as described several times in this thread. Cliffnote version: put pills (either whole if not in a hurry, crushed if in a hurry) in a pot and add ice-cold water. If using tap-water straight from the tap run it for a good few minutes till properly cold but idealy refridgerate for a couple hours beforehand/overnight. Once pills are dissolved (or as soon as given a good stir if pre-crushed) filter through 3-4 layers of cheap (ie not super-absorbant) kitchen roll or - preferably - a coffee filter. Bear in mind up to 1g of paracetamol per 100ml of fluid will be included no matter how cold the water. Maximum daily dose of paracetamol is 4g but obviously you don't wanna get close to that as a one-off dose so keep water minimal. 100-200ml is plenty.

Also, DHC is generally reckoned to be anywhere from 1.5-4x as potent as codeine itself. Most suspect the latter end of that range but don't take that for FACT! all the same. Start low and work up to where you want to get over a series of trials - not all in one day (paracetamol bizniz iz bad bizniz). DHC and codeine are really quite similar but DHC is moderately more potent and lacks the extreme histamine release that codeine itself has. Many mistake histamine release for actual opioid effects. With DHC you get a "cleaner" opioid effect.

If you check the first post of this thread (or it's previous incarnations) you'll find fuller description of CWE procedure but the above shortened version is basically all you need. But read more all the same.

Enjoy.

(not the taste - you won't enjoy that :D)
 
Sup codeine-lovey people? I've just got me a CWE going (around 600mg) and my gf has expressed interest in trying it. She's never touched opiates/oids, has done a lot of other drugs, and did note that one 50mg Tramadol gave her fairly bad nausea and dizziness the other month but I'd not compare it to codeine honestly. So yeah assuming a dose of around 500mg for me given my tolerance, would 100mg for her be around about the right level for a first time or...?

I know this is like one of the least concerning things to ask about regarding first doses but I can do without her vomiting endlessly and I can do without her being all down cos it didn't work well, even though I'm aware the latter could indeed happen.
 
not sure about the perfect dose for starting out... but i think you can feel 100mg pretty well without it being too over the top. im no expert though, having had it only a couple of times. personally i felt 60mg too but im lightweight in these things.
would never compare tramadol to codeine either.
 
I'd start with 50-60mg, no more. When I was opiate naive I could feel as little as 2 x 8mg cocos, so would have found 100mg way too strong. YMMV, but best to start low.
 
Another lightweight here, 100mg may have been too much when I had no tolerance. Not so much because of nausea or puking but rather cos of the itch/histamine release which can get unpleasant.
 
Cheers people, I'll knock it down to 50mg, if it works, awesome, if it doesn't, can up it some other time if she wants. Better to not feel much than be sweating and feeling shite!
 
And unable to stop shitting =D
Really hope you get by it alright chuck - Day 4 after no Opiate is when things start to improve physically. It's the PAWS that go on for a long time :\
 
Just got my first DHC tablets, was originally gonna use codeine to taper off kratom, i dont think i was thinking straight when i came up with that idea. 8( So these are gonna be just for recreation. Dunno where my tolerance is gonna be at with these things, so will start off with either 60mg or 90mg.
 
If your GF gonna do it then take 2 anti histamines, last Wednesday i had 1 loratadine with my linctus and obviously my tolerance had dropped and i ended up itchy as fuck one step down from a full blown release.

Last time i did a big dose with no hayfever tabs i was scratching myself for an hour and 40 mins, fucking dreadful it was.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Just got my first DHC tablets, was originally gonna use codeine to taper off kratom, i dont think i was thinking straight when i came up with that idea. 8( So these are gonna be just for recreation. Dunno where my tolerance is gonna be at with these things, so will start off with either 60mg or 90mg.
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120mg of DHC is usually a good start for a low tolerance but past Opiate user. But yeah 60-90mg to start and you can always increase if you need to :)

Oh and when tapering - Don't do CWE's as they effect you quicker but also leave your system quicker - You want to make sure that the half-life keeps reducing for as long as possible.
Good luck! :) <3
 
Tapering off opiates is going be harder then swallowing kratom, i wouldnt have the self control to even bother, i need a fat dose and a few bong hits and thats that. Honestly i prefer kratom on its own to DHC and codiene buzz wise, i feel more on it.
 
Cheers for the tips. I think I'll start with 90mg, they are pure instant release DHC so no CWEs required with these fortunately. Planning to space out my sessions so that no codeine tapering is necessary. I'll use kratom to taper off kratom. I realise using a stronger 'proper' opiate whilst thinking about a kratom taper at the same time is ludicrous, so the kratom taper is going on the backburner for a while, it'll keep me feeling chipper on the days i dont take anything stronger whilst all this ODT and other things are available.
 
Dark Side said:
Tapering off opiates is going be harder then swallowing kratom, i wouldnt have the self control to even bother, i need a fat dose and a few bong hits and thats that. Honestly i prefer kratom on its own to DHC and codiene buzz wise, i feel more on it.
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I dont currently have an opi habit, havent had for some time. I'm only using them occasionally for brief periods. Ive blown my tolerance to kratom, or to be more precise, blown it for specific strains of kratom, ive found that staying off one strain for a while and using a different one resets tolerance to the first strain and also prevents w/ds.
 
What are you paying for 90mg DHCs, btw? I can get them for 6$ a piece but surely they must be cheaper elsewhere
 
Took two of my DHCs earlier (no CWE) bc splitting headache. The pain is back. I've also had cold medicine with APAP today. Would you say I'd be safe to take more of the DHCs without CWE-ing them?
 
monstanoodle said:
And unable to stop shitting =D
Really hope you get by it alright chuck - Day 4 after no Opiate is when things start to improve physically. It's the PAWS that go on for a long time :\
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Ah projectile shitting :D I owe you a PM btw, I have not forgotten in the grand scheme of things but on a minute to minute basis my memory isn't too hot =D

Will take Dark Side's advice and chuck her an antihistamine or two as well, haven't had bad itches myself in ages but to start with they were awful, managed to scratch my foot bloody once 8(
 
There's no rush mate! Whenever you get round to it :)
It's ridiculous that I've had 420mg of Codeine with no Antihistamine and no itches at all 8(
 
snolly said:
Ah projectile shitting :D I owe you a PM btw, I have not forgotten in the grand scheme of things but on a minute to minute basis my memory isn't too hot =D

Will take Dark Side's advice and chuck her an antihistamine or two as well, haven't had bad itches myself in ages but to start with they were awful, managed to scratch my foot bloody once 8(
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Mate dont even think about not using them, a full blown one is horrid your hands will swell to twice the size and its impossible not to scratch! destroys the high and your gf would hate you. but with hayfever tabs there is no worry aslong as you take 2 if yo have low tolerance there is no probs.
 
Yep yep, can do without her resenting me for overinflated hands for sure, you make a good point! Got enough of em kicking round so will give her the dose and a couple of them and see how she feels. Thanks for the advice all <3
 
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