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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine / MXE Thread - Holey Shit no. 15

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I had gotten great rolls on as low as 60 with this combo before. with 150 dosed in 75 then 75 an hour later it was the smoothest comeup i've ever had on and mdmxx or psychedelic period.

my friend that dosed 150 all at once (while aabout 45 min into a threshold dose of mxe, 15 mg or so)....he didn't seemed to have as good a roll but that could be anything, individual, set and setting, etc.

really the way I do it...you are almost baseline on the mxe by the time the roll hits.....so its not even really and Mxe + mdma combo.....the mxe just primes your brain in a way that makes the mdma so smooth and amazing....and I'm one of those people that isn't impressed by mdma alone, and feels the euphoria to be fake/lacking sometimes. i generally prefer 6-apb. wonder if mxe then 6apb will off the same level of euphoria
 
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Dosing 5-meo-mipt on the tail end of MXE (+6 hours since ingestion) totally changed the character of moxy. Instead of the rushing/stimulate-like come-up I was greeted with a peaceful state with none of the odd body load I usually get from 5-meo-mipt. It reminds me a lot of the opiate warmth or perhaps valium.

I regret not combining the two outright. I will have to attempt to do that at some point. I'll have to write a trip report about all of this once I've sobered up.
 
LucidSDreamer, did you notice your roll after MXE to be missing any aspects of a regular MDMA roll? It sort of lines up with what is said about NDMA antagonists and reverse tolerance/lower dosage thresholds and less drastic comedowns when used prior to a stimulant. Did you experience any hint of cardio-toxicity? I'm not highly impressed with pure MDMA either, I find it somewhat lacking.
 
The only thing it was missing was the rollinng feeling waves or rushing waves of boddy euphoria....the euphoria was an ever-constant singular rush that didn't have that "rolling" feeling is how i can describe it. It was better in very many ways, the visual perception nature of mxe was very present and became intensified as the roll came on, The euphoria was undeniable and genuine, but setting had ALOT to do with it also.

it felt less edgy or stimulanty than a regular mdma come up and roll...there was no come up, it was just a gradual easing into that 4 hour rush of euphoria. It was so smooth and peaceful.
 
That's how I'd describe it too... it's not a rush, not "wavy"... just a constant, perfect peace and contentment along with a great increase in physical pleasure. I prefer it to MDMA hands down. It feels like MXE first and then MDMA eliminates any negatives from either substance and keeps the positives and also adds something unique. Not edgy or stimulating... just calm peace. There's also a lot of empathy and love. Absolutely nothing lacking. Me and all my friends agree with this assessment. Maybe someday I'll try it with more MDMA, maybe 120-150mg, but so far I have used either 70mg or 80mg and I prefer the combo to any roll I've ever had other than perhaps my very first one (and it's not really fair to compare that because the first time you do something is always uniquely special).
 
Well I'm back and sober, still haven't put that trip report together. I do have some notes about the combination to share:

I started around 3am with the MXE, unsure of the dose because I eyeballed but I'd guess around 50-70mg total. I consumed it in two oral doses over the course of an hour or so. I put on a movie (The Hobbit in 3D) after the first dose and got a little lost in it. When taking the second dose I got distracted by the computer for a good half hour but eventually dosed again and went back to the movie. I felt I'd done enough to hole, or was circling the hole at least but the movie became a constant distraction and I never settled into things.

At 6am or so after the movie was over I found myself very dissociated. As soon as I took off the 3D glasses and attempted to walk I found myself stumbling about with double vision. I cursed myself for wasting the MXE but decided to enjoy the after effects.

A couple of hours later I was quickly coming down on the MXE and decided that taking some 5-meo-mipt would be a good idea. I took a pre-measured capsule out of my drug box which I thought was 20mg or so. I split the powder in half and took what I thought was around 10mg (later found out it was closer to 15mg). I was expecting the usual stimulation to set in quickly as I was in a tired/lazy state of mind.

The stimulation never set in, nor did the usual body load. I nearly fell asleep several times on the come-up and assumed (stupidly) that it wasn't working. I reach for the capsule again and dump out the remainder of the contents and re-dosed. This brought me up to somewhere in the range of 25-30mg of 5-meo-mipt which is on par or more with my highest dose of the substance so far.

Another hour goes by and no stimulation to be found aside from a feeling of not begin as tired as before. Again I nearly fell asleep several times lying in bed. Over the next two hours the "rolling" phase transitioned into the more psychedelic phase of the trip. I'm unsure if it was just the high dose I took or the residual MXE wearing off (or both) but I did have a small bit of time in there where things did become difficult. This quickly passed into a feeling of bliss. Visuals started dominate my visual field both indoors and outdoors. It felt nearly on par with a good mushroom trip and continued until 5pm that afternoon.

I'm very interested in combining the two now as I think MXE would over shadow the rougher parts of the 5-meo-mipt. It seems to have the same effect on this chemical that people above have described it having in combination with MDMA. I obviously don't advise taking high doses of 5-meo-mipt like I did but if were one planning on trying it I think MXE would make things go much smoother. I did find taking 30mg of 5-meo-mipt on this trip easier to handle than consuming 20mg by itself.
 
Nice, thanks for sharing. I find MXE to take away the jangly effects of most things when you're on MXE first, and make the effects of other things smoother and more "constant", ie, not rushy, wavy, etc. MXE seems amazing for combinations in general. One thing it doesn't seem to be great for is methylone... I've taken a full dose of methylone while on MXE and I didn't feel it much, though it did feel good... it was just quite subtle and unremarkable. However one time I had a really great methylone experience at a festival and then took MXE afterwards and it was a great MXE trip.
 
A few weeks ago, went clubbing with gf, dropped 3 times 200-300mg 4-FA throughout the night, early morning at home not entirely clear memory of exact doses, definately still stimulated and euphoric from 4-FA, but on the tail end, so not rushing.... sniffed 20mg 2C-E, and sublingualed i imagine for myself 100 or 125mg MXE, the energy leftover from the 4-FA, and slight stimulation from 2C-E kept a certain form of clarity, however combined with that dose of MXE provided the most intense euphoria in my life, more than IV hydromorphone in so many ways for example... but to describe the experience, obviously very difficult, but perfect set and setting and co-tripper. A few words that come to mind are: spiritual, euphoric, heavanly, orgasmic and divine regarding this combo experience....

Not sure about the safety of combining 2C-E or 4-FA with MXE, but glad it all worked out for the best: dosage was crucial and specefic to each of us, and we both hit "that sweet spot" hehe ;)
 
phatass said:
A few weeks ago, went clubbing with gf, dropped 3 times 200-300mg 4-FA throughout the night, early morning at home not entirely clear memory of exact doses, definately still stimulated and euphoric from 4-FA, but on the tail end, so not rushing.... sniffed 20mg 2C-E, and sublingualed i imagine for myself 100 or 125mg MXE, the energy leftover from the 4-FA, and slight stimulation from 2C-E kept a certain form of clarity, however combined with that dose of MXE provided the most intense euphoria in my life, more than IV hydromorphone in so many ways for example... but to describe the experience, obviously very difficult, but perfect set and setting and co-tripper. A few words that come to mind are: spiritual, euphoric, heavanly, orgasmic and divine regarding this combo experience....
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This sounds a lot like the feeling I got with the 5-meo-mipt/MXE combo. Instead of a series of stimulating rushes it slowly built up into an all consuming glow. I can only compare it to a nod on a strong opiate. But my mind was clear at the same time instead of begin in that sleepy headspace that comes a long with an opiate.
 
LucidSDreamr said:
yes!!! i texted a friend during the peak to describe it as, "mextacy....is silence and perfect stillness"

mextacy = mxe + x
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One of the best combos I've ever had the pleasure of imbibing. :) Instant classic, just like MXE. God, I can't believe a Bluelighter invented MXE, and one I have known for years! MXE is one of my favorite drugs, period... it's so great. :)
 
yah and a bl'er interviewed the guy on vice lmao. well, he doesn't post much at all on bl (Hamilton Morris) but still.
 
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One thing it doesn't seem to be great for is methylone... I've taken a full dose of methylone while on MXE and I didn't feel it much, though it did feel good... it was just quite subtle and unremarkable. However one time I had a really great methylone experience at a festival and then took MXE afterwards and it was a great MXE trip.
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Tried this combo few weeks ago too. I wouldn't say it "unremarkable" but would agree that:

Xorkoth said:
MXE to take away the jangly effects of most things when you're on MXE first, and make the effects of other things smoother and more "constant", ie, not rushy, wavy, etc.
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I did combo in two steps:
1) IM 100 mg methylone + oral 20 mg mxe
2) IM 150 mg methylone + IM 25 mg mxe

But I need to say it was a 2nd night after night I used methylone in much bigger amounts. So I had some tolerance and I didn't expect much - maybe that's why I was actually satisfied. If I had a chance to choose again between using just methylone or methylone+mxe on THAT night I would choose combo again. But if it was the first night I will avoid it for sure.
 
Does anyone have any idea about how long it takes to lose NMDA receptor tolerance? I've come to realize that the MXE I have is all I'll ever have, and I'd like to effectively conserve it. I used some Sat. night after a two week break, and it was nothing short of blissful; however, 4 days later I used the same amount and it left me wanting for more. Obviously I need to tone down my use to get the most out of it, but does anyone have an idea of how long one should space out MXE doses to keep the magic goin?

On another note, I'm thinking about trying nitrous again after years away; does it combo well with MXE? Have any of you had glowing experiences with nitrous and MXE?
 
N2O and MXE is killer.....

but i likes everything with MXE when i was doing it...the more the better

my recipe was a six pack, 30mg MXE, 20mg valuim, 4mg clonopin, 10gm oxy and large quanities of kind bud.....
 
I did nitrous on DOC and MXE at a festival and my third hit was an amazing experience, I mean I don't remember much except the re-entry but it was very salvia-like except blissful, extremely psychedelic and awe-inspiring. I realize DOC was thrown in there but I'm guessing it goes well with MXE as well... it was the very tail end of the DOC (I took it at 11am and did the nitrous at like 3am, and MXE throughout the evening/night).
 
Wow...

So I was sitting here drinking some beers last night and the thought popped in my head to drop exactly 76mg of MXE. Now I have a Gemini-20 so that number would be impossible to obtain without the scale turning off or mashing the on button a million times, right? Well I took my trusty 8-12mg scoop and started scooping. Was at 72mg, took a touch more and bam. Exactly 76mg.

What a night that was! I have the "yellow" polymorph and I don't see what all the complaining is about, its incredible. I am too lazy to write up a trip report but it was a ++++, I haven't worked with my crystals like that in years and it was extremely revealing about my anxiety and everything. Even during the trip, when I started to get anxious, I just said that if its my time, its my time and I won't go before that so I need to stop obsessing over my heart rate so much. This is huge for me because people who know me know that I'm like the most anxious person around, always checking his pulse... which drives it up even higher. But the real magic... was the energy work. I confirmed with a friend of mine this morning that she did indeed experience the energy exchange that I felt and saw us have.

The weird thing is the duration... I made it through Tales of the Inexpressible but when I put Airdrawndagger on, the trip was winding down. I suppose it could be because it was such an intense experience in the beginning that the rest of the trip couldn't match that ++++ peak, I mean I was still very much on a strong +++ with both mild OEV and a little bit of CEV but nothing like what happened just an hour earlier. I seem to remember MXE being a multi-hour experience? It was definitely MXE, I trust my source implicitly and besides that there's not another drug that feels like MXE to me, I just found the duration to be a bit lacking. Or maybe my sense of time was shot, I was out there for awhile with the crystals.

Either way... Anyone who finds MXE to not be magical isn't getting MXE. This chemical is a very warm and spiritual experience. Even the stuff I got from China that was cut with salt (no joke) still had synchronicity and a whole whirlwind of events happen that all seemed to surround me as the sole source. Like I started tripping and everyone started posting on Facebook about computer problems and such and so much more.

I suppose that tolerance could be involved, this is my second time with it this week and I did the Chinese stuff I think twice before it got stolen by my roommate's trick one night...

I'm going to shelve it for a bit but I have to say... That was completely unexpected. And I'm not scared of my crystals anymore which is huge plus I'm starting to realize the real roots of my anxiety problems and that simply facing the anxiety head on and living through it will be the end of the anxiety.
 
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