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Gibberings CLXXVIII - Too skanky for your tastes?

Sammy G said:
You must be visiting an unusually liberal part of Scotland, or else you're confusing lock-ins with legal trade.

I don't know about England, but here in Manchester, 24-hour booze shops are definitely not everywhere.
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I know in Glasgow there used to be some funny licensing laws to deal with the shift workers - so you would have been able to get a drink at any point in the day, but that's not necessarily 24hr licensing. E.g. there were (are?) places which could serve alcohol only with food at like 5 or 6am, which just results in the unpleasant sight of a bunch of alchies wallowing in a pile of discarded cheap bacon butties.:D

Here in North London I'm within walking distance of several 24hr offies. Don't know about pubs, but I bet there are a few in Central London.
 
SM, how about pregabalin and valerian root? Both can help slightly with the physical and mental side of WDs, they did ime with lesser opis. It is only a slight relief, but enough to make a difference, and that can be the difference between sticking with it and caving in. You wouldnt be replacing H with another highly addictive substance. It is possible to become addicted to pregabalin, like any other gabagenic if you take it too long. But i cant see that happening. The first 4 days are the most difficult no? So holding out that long each time is a major achievment. And you can build on those foundations and take confidence from them if you view things in a certain way.

Are you seeing any drug support services, although not perfect or a magic pill by any means, they can help sway your thinking away from relaspsing or continuing to use, if you are willing to suspend cynicism and accept being 'brainwashed' towards the "drugs are bad m'kay" school of thought. Wishing you the best of luck w/e. It must be so exhasuting to have to a physical job during w/ds, i doubt i could do it myself, but if you can, its probably beneficial as its taking 'your mind off things' even if only for a few moments at a time, plus you are getting execrise in as part of your job which can start to help really quickly, and the days tend to go by quicker when working, plus you cant very easily decide halfway rhrough your shift to go and score. Sorry this was a bit of a shit rambly post, maybe i should have just said that i wish you the best of luck.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
SM, how about pregabalin and valerian root? Both can help slightly with the physical and mental side of WDs, they did ime with lesser opis. It is only a slight relief, but enough to make a difference, and that can be the difference between sticking with it and caving in. You wouldnt be replacing H with another highly addictive substance. It is possible to become addicted to pregabalin, like any other gabagenic if you take it too long. But i cant see that happening. The first 4 days are the most difficult no? So holding out that long each time is a major achievment. And you can build on those foundations and take confidence from them if you view things in a certain way.

Are you seeing any drug support services, although not perfect or a magic pill by any means, they can help sway your thinking away from relaspsing or continuing to use, if you are willing to suspend cynicism and accept being 'brainwashed' towards the "drugs are bad m'kay" school of thought. Wishing you the best of luck w/e. It must be so exhasuting to have to a physical job during w/ds, i doubt i could do it myself, but if you can, its probably beneficial as its taking 'your mind off things' even if only for a few moments at a time, plus you are getting execrise in as part of your job which can start to help really quickly, and the days tend to go by quicker when working, plus you cant very easily decide halfway rhrough your shift to go and score. Sorry this was a bit of a shit rambly post, maybe i should have just said that i wish you the best of luck.
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Brilliant post, MDB. Totally agree with this. Did you see my post to you this morning ? I hope you weren't offended by it. I care about you as you're my friend n I wouldn't feel right had I not said anything.

Evey
 
spudgun said:
I know in Glasgow there used to be some funny licensing laws to deal with the shift workers - so you would have been able to get a drink at any point in the day, but that's not necessarily 24hr licensing. E.g. there were (are?) places which could serve alcohol only with food at like 5 or 6am, which just results in the unpleasant sight of a bunch of alchies wallowing in a pile of discarded cheap bacon butties.:D

Here in North London I'm within walking distance of several 24hr offies. Don't know about pubs, but I bet there are a few in Central London.
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We used to have the odd place where drink was available (legally) after hours - the press club was probably the most obvious and notable. Obviously journos and other newspaper staff needed somewhere to drink after knocking off. They weren't just places you could walk into though.

Nowadays, you can drink after 3am in The Cornerhouse (nice bar, not always so nice after-hours) or Manchester 235 Casino. Every other establishment has either voluntarily restricted its opening times or have had their 24-hour licences revoked by the city council. Yet the police are so stretched that they're threatening to stop round-the-clock drinking altogether.

It's not even as if there's been a really significant increase in crime, at least according to a Cambridge University study published only last year.
 
Sammy G said:
We used to have the odd place where drink was available (legally) after hours - the press club was probably the most obvious and notable. Obviously journos and other newspaper staff needed somewhere to drink after knocking off. They weren't just places you could walk into though.

Nowadays, you can drink after 3am in The Cornerhouse (nice bar, not always so nice after-hours) or Manchester 235 Casino. Every other establishment has either voluntarily restricted its opening times or have had their 24-hour licences revoked by the city council. Yet the police are so stretched that they're threatening to stop round-the-clock drinking altogether.

It's not even as if there's been a really significant increase in crime, at least according to a Cambridge University study published only last year.
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Dry is open until 4 and the northern is open until 5 (on fridays and saturdays anyway)
 
Haven't been to Dry in at least a decade, and the less said about The Northern the better. :D

Though neither are strictly 24-hour, are they? Good to know there are a couple more post 3am options though.
 
Small world indeed! :D

Our Northern (I use 'our in the loosest sense, because you'll struggle to hear a Manc accent in there) used to be a pub for the fruit-and-veg barrow boys (along with hardcore boozers),which went by the name of The King.

It was horrible, and I'd never set foot in there for fear of my life, but I preferred how it was to the attempt at total gentrification which followed the influx of city-centre-dwelling hipsters.

It was so tacky back in the day that they had an ad for karaoke with a poor likeness of King Henry VII holding a microphone. Cos it's called The King, right?

Man, I miss that place.
 
what a country you live in.... i couldnt imagine life without 24/7 shops that sell liquor... :P
i suppose it s better than sweden and its alcohol monopoly thing. probably
 
From what I gather the shops problem is just a Manchester thing - you can get them in pretty much any other major English city IME
 
what about the 24hr ASDAs?.....can you only ring booze through the self checkout at certain times?...I don't really drink myself but my ex-housemate was a complete alcoholic and I was always going to the corner shop for bottles of cheapo-brand vodka for her (she was a mental health nurse but was off on the sick). Mr. Singh the Indian gentleman who owns the corner shop next to mine is open 24/7/365 and wouldnt turn down anyone who had cold hard currency in their hands and wanted to by booze...or anything else for that matter.
 
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