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parttime crackhead said:
They made the Muslim kids (kid) at my apparently non religious primary school sing hymns with every other donut. I had to get my mum to write a letter (Gangster shit) to say I wasn't going to church at Easter because I didn't believe in it. It's mental that they just assume folk want their kids indoctrinated with that shit.

It's not even an issue that kids are force fed religion from 4 years old when it's Christianity. Cunts would be flipping the lid if all the Christian kids at school were made to get the prayer mats out and point at Mecca at every assembly.
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Quite. Just look at the hysteria surrounding Islamic schools in the UK. Every one of 'em a hotbed of extremism for sure. Do the same suspicions and prejudices get tossed about when it's a Jewish school (they can also be pretty frikkin fundamentalist I believe) or any of the assorted Christian denominations? It's all indoctrination and none of it should be allowed to be taxpayer funded.
 
Shambles said:
Quite. Just look at the hysteria surrounding Islamic schools in the UK. Every one of 'em a hotbed of extremism for sure. Do the same suspicions and prejudices get tossed about when it's a Jewish school (they can also be pretty frikkin fundamentalist I believe) or any of the assorted Christian denominations? It's all indoctrination and none of it should be allowed to be taxpayer funded.
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HouseFever said:
What Sylvia Browne, wasn't she that evil witch that told people their children were dead, when they were lost?
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Shambles said:
Dead, lost - it's much the same really if you think in terms of pure shysterism. They were spiritually dead because they were lost and away from home, see? Obvious when you think on it properly.
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Yes - she made a mistake. I don't necessarily believe a lot of her stuff, was more a way of relief after the stuff form Michael Drosmin (Wednesday 21 January, 2004).... I was so incredibly scared that her books comforted me.... Of course I don't believe it all... and she charge like $750 for reading, which I don't agree with....

I loved those Christian assemblies; the stories; the hymn. I always felt right to believe. I remember telling kids as a young child; who bullied me for being partially-sighted; "Jesus is watching you n you'll get your karma for this!" Of course, they just laughed. I never mentioned it again, but I always believed and whenever something was happening, I prayed and found comfort in it.... Like I said when sober, I'll not argue one way or the other because when one has faith it is not a question of "evidence" or having to persuade others, it's a case of what one believes oneself...

On the other handle, PTCH, yes if you did not believe in the Christian faith - your Mam did right by opting you out of those assemblies... but personally I found that those stories taught people morals n what-not. Different strokes for different folks, n all that!

EDIT: The reason I am facing the issues of addiction with opiates and alcohol is my punishment n my karma. When I was fit I had a lot of anger towards other who went out drinking while I was alone (self-pity basically) and I thought evil things such as "haha they'll all wreck their livers with alcohol while I'm all fit!" Because of those nasty, evil thoughts I am facing the ultimate payback; the battle against addiction. Energy breeds energy and it starts with thought........

Evey
 
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Shambles said:
Would you feel the same if you were a Christian forced to go to an Islamic school and join in or be punished?
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Please re-read what I wrote.

I said to PTCH I could understand his Mam writing to have him not attend if he/they did not believe. But I was saying that "I loved those assemblies. They affirmed my belief in God and in Jesus, as well as gave us all a sense of community and togetherness!"

Evey
 
Please re-read what you just quoted cos that is not what I was asking. I was referring specifically to people who have different beliefs being forced to join in with Christian worship. Why is it okay if they are forced to pretend to join in with Christianity but not the other way around?

Incidentally, Muslims also 'believe in Jesus' (he's the second most revered prophet besides Mohammed). (Some) Buddhists also believe that Jesus was a Buddha... or Boddisatva or something along those lines. Hindus are Jesus-friendly too. There are differences though and those differences are not catered for - people are just forced to play along with the Christian 'majority' which hasn't been a majority in decades.

Reform. Reform. Reform.
 
Shambles YOU re-read :D .... I was saying that people SHOULD not have to join in with Christian worship if they do not wish to exampling PTCH - but was saying that I enjoyed them, myself.

We'll agree to disagree.......... I think the Christian assembles should continue as it's the main faith of Britain, our faith.....

If we went to other countries and preached the Christian religion, our head would be on a silver platter - so thus why should we have to compromise the Christian assembly which is good and gives children morals?

Evey
 
Eveleivibe said:
I think the Christian assembles should continue as it's the main faith of Britain, our faith.....
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Not by a long way it's not. Islam is far more common in the UK now. Atheism is probably the most common 'belief' in general but of the religions Islam is a long way ahead of Christianity I'd say.

(in terms of numbers who claim it as their religious - and (to some extent) practiced - affiliation anyway)
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Oooh, that's a bit of a cop out Evey.. You can't start a debate then bugger off if no one is agreeing with you... own the problem =D
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hahahaha I'm not, FUBAR... I'm knowing my limits... there's always limits.... I'm learning from my mistakes... The direction of this debate would be bordering on offensive, on my part.... so thus I'm opting for a "break," will step back in later.... A good debate is to know your limits, to know that when one is bordering on offensive - 'tis best to stop than continue.... ya'll feel free to continue :D

Evey
 
Eveleivibe said:
hahahaha I'm not, FUBAR... I'm knowing my limits... there's always limits.... I'm learning from my mistakes... The direction of this debate would be bordering on offensive, on my part.... so thus I'm opting for a "break," will step back in later.... A good debate is to know your limits, to know that when one is bordering on offensive - 'tis best to stop than continue.... ya'll feel free to continue :D

Evey
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So 'knowing your limits' is to not actually take part in the debate?? ;) (actually, that's what has got me through life so far without getting my head kicked in.. so good option =D )
 
Shambles said:
She means she a little bit racist ;)
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errrrmmmm that's one way of putting it but let's not go there again, eh....

F.U.B.A.R. said:
So 'knowing your limits' is to not actually take part in the debate?? ;) (actually, that's what has got me through life so far without getting my head kicked in.. so good option =D )
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hahahaha good thinking, we think along the same wavelength.... :D

Evey
 
Shambles said:
Not by a long way it's not. Islam is far more common in the UK now. Atheism is probably the most common 'belief' in general but of the religions Islam is a long way ahead of Christianity I'd say.

(in terms of numbers who claim it as their religious - and (to some extent) practiced - affiliation anyway)
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Don't be silly, well over half the country identified themselves as Christian in the 2011 census.
 
Shambles said:
She means she a little bit racist ;)
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Yeh, I can see what yer alluding to there, but being religionist does not necessarily equate with being racist.

i.e. I can't be doing with christians, catholics, muslims, jews, hindus, buddhists etc. etc., but I couldn't give a fuck where they're from or the colour of their skin, it's just their general ignorance, gullibility and willingness to commit crimes against other humans which pisses me off :|
 
Uh hum... I'm Christian....


omen_owen mk2 said:
Don't be silly, well over half the country identified themselves as Christian in the 2011 census.
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Fkn ACE!!!! So Christianity isn't dying due to the invasions in this country then??? Thank Goodness for that..... and do they still do Christian assemblies? I guess I should ask my kid but she's into tantrums n sulks these days.... blah!....

Evey
 
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