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Discussion - Creditability - is it ours or the universe's to take?

How do you know that we thought "nothing" before we were born? No one knows what happened / where we were before, so can you really come to that conclusion?

No one can come to any conclusions.

We're primitive semi-civilized beasts grasping at straws.

"Do as thou whit shall be the whole of the law,."

Or...
"Nothing is true, everything is permitted."



Moral laws are subjective.

As far as the afterlife is concerned, one can only speculate. We'll get there in time, we're losing precious moments thinking about the ineffable while our hearts keep beating a certain number of aforementioned times before they inevitably expire.

Faith is being content.

Just..."Be still and know."

Stop asking why.

You feel that?

Breathe it in deep into your lungs. That's existence without question...

Ahhhh.....
 
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"Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law... Love is the law, love under will... Every man and every woman is a star... I am divided for love's sake, for the chance of union... I am above you and in you. My ecstasy is in yours. My joy is to see your joy. " - Aleister Crowley (paraphrased and jigged about a bit cos i don't have the actual book to hand at the moment)

People always skip over the other stuff about how 'the law' is love. Makes it easier to paint him as the boogeyman I suppose. Or indeed to make it sound like he's saying it should be a free for all when that's not at all what he was talking about. It's not at all equivalent to the Hassan I Sabbah quote. (is that who it was? - William Burroughs was keen on quoting it I know but been ages since I read Naked Lunch)

Also, will reply to PM in a bit - am a bugger for slow responses and am horribly hungover today so on a go-slow :o
 
I do breathe when I'm running or a loada lactic acid will get into me, mess up my muscle n exhaust me..... so I breathe in my nose and out my mouth.... Mind you when doing race4life people looked at me a bit strange but hayho they know F all about fitness... you've got to BLOODY BREATHE FFS!!!! Might look bloody stupid but it's important...

BREATHE, BREATHE, BREATHE, BREATHE.....

In your noses and out through your mouths....

Evey
 
"Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law... Love is the law, love under will... Every man and every woman is a star... I am divided for love's sake, for the chance of union... I am above you and in you. My ecstasy is in yours. My joy is to see your joy. " - Aleister Crowley (paraphrased and jigged about a bit cos i don't have the actual book to hand at the moment)

People always skip over the other stuff about how 'the law' is love. Makes it easier to paint him as the boogeyman I suppose. Or indeed to make it sound like he's saying it should be a free for all when that's not at all what he was talking about. It's not at all equivalent to the Hassan I Sabbah quote. (is that who it was? - William Burroughs was keen on quoting it I know but been ages since I read Naked Lunch)

Also, will reply to PM in a bit - am a bugger for slow responses and am horribly hungover today so on a go-slow :o

As far as slow responses, I've been up 48 hours taking high doses of dextromethorphan and jogging barefoot around lakes and gardening and talking to my eccentric father who is out of his mind, so forgive me if I don't elaborate my squanch right after I receive it haha.

Cool. You know your squanch.

They were arbitrary kind of anti- moralistic guidelines that I think got closer to the randomness of nature than any civilized laws have yet to accomplish, old hat they are but I kind of used them in that sense of existential absurdist notion that nothing matters unless you will it. Camus said you will your own meaning in a nihilistic world, called it absurd. I found great depth in that and subscribed to it, and have taken enough dissociative drugs to finally know the "all is one" interconnectedness of being with the world.

If shambles was a lady I'd fuck her sideways. ;)
 
who made these bloody cans??? I'm fkn sober ffs! GUTED!!!!! All night bloody drinking to end up sober is a disgraced to the drug world... FUCKED was the intention.... Blah... out to bed to 'cry into my pillow' No more drink for a while as I need to get this fat off....

Nos Da.....................................

Evey
 
Very true. My atheism came late in life and I try not to be the stereotypical internet atheist twat. IRL I tend to hold my tongue. Nobody ever really knows for sure and its good to keep your mind open.

Exactly... I'll always be a Spiritualist-Christian no matter what people say.

Evey

Well, that's the exact opposite of keeping your mind open, isn't it?
 
ok i forgot about this 1, is it only me and Evey who believe in god. if there was no god. How do u explain 1000s of people b4 they die say they see passed loved ones come to get them, Ouji boards though thats a bit different your still taliking to spirits/demons whatever, which in a way proves theres a god and an afterlife. If there was no truth to oyji boards y r they or were they illegal. People whove seen ghosts or spirits which i have witnessed once for sure in my life and 2 other people seen the same thing. IMO GOD is real so are spirits, demons be they lost souls or what i dont know. Anyway theres my opinion

Ouija boards are not illegal.
 
Well, that's the exact opposite of keeping your mind open, isn't it?

I guess. My faith is somewhat conflicted n it tends to annoy people (they'd love me in the religious forums :D hah - they'll be seeing me soon)

I am a christian but I've a lot of opposing views so thus I tell people I'm a Spiritualist-Christiam. My mind is very much open but my faith is what it is. For instance I believe in prophets, mediumship n reincarnation n there was stuff in the Bible that was against such things though there was hint at reincarnation with John the Baptist so hmmmm. There's been a few arguments for n against reincarnation n Christianity I googled a lot of shite back in 2004 but it's 10 years later n subs has fried my brain somewhat plus I've slept since then.

One of my friends, whom is a Christian, is an extremely closed-minded n ignorant individual. He told me once I'll burn in Hell for eternity n never be allowed in the kingdom of Heaven. My response to him? "FUCK OFF!" before blocking his backside. We made up after but we decided not to discuss religious interests after a few months of me putting my msger status as "I'm a Spiritualist-Christian" to completely annoy him.

Evey
 
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I do breathe when I'm running or a loada lactic acid will get into me, mess up my muscle n exhaust me..... so I breathe in my nose and out my mouth.... Mind you when doing race4life people looked at me a bit strange but hayho they know F all about fitness... you've got to BLOODY BREATHE FFS!!!! Might look bloody stupid but it's important...

BREATHE, BREATHE, BREATHE, BREATHE.....

In your noses and out through your mouths....

Evey

To the best of my knowledge, most people do actually breathe. Quite regularly at that.
 
I've often found myself staring at a cunt in the street like, what the fuck is this guy doing? Here mate, why is your chest going in and out like that, and what's the score with this air coming in and out your mouth? I'm just breathing mate, it's normal... aye right! Breathing? What do you think you are, a fucking dolphin? Get a fucking grip and quit that breathing before you hurt yourself.
 
To the best of my knowledge, most people do actually breathe. Quite regularly at that.

Hahahaha - There's a specific way to "breathe" when doing earobic exercise which helps you continue for longer n keeps you more healthy plus looks after your core at the same time. Or you get lotsa lactic acid in your muscles which isn't good.

Mind you when I'm doing my exercise videos n they're breathing n making the funny noises it does make chuckle somewhat, cause the faces they make are right funny. Did someone forget to tell them they were on camera hahahaha

Evey
 
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