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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 2C-B Thread - Stage 2

Yeah I don't like taking them concurrently...they kind of just blur each others best attributes out. I like spacing around 3-4 hours between the two...and MDMA followed by 2C-B and 2C-B followed by MDMA both have their merits. And snorting either really takes the magic out of them in my experience.
 
Had a couple good 2cb trips now with 3 hardpressed pills (spread 8-12mg)
Would taking 4 pills be too much? If i had to guess my last trip was 30mg and if i hit the top of the spread with 4 pills it would be 48mg.
could this be too much? Or should i be good?
 
Tjackad-tullare said:
is 2c-b any way neurotoxic?
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No, to the best of our knowledge, 2C-B does not appear to be neurotoxic, but I doubt there have been any real in-depth studies and scientific analysis of this. Looking at the lack of reported adverse effects of 2C-B and others related to it by users, as well the fact that related serotonergic psychedelics (such as LSD), having been studied, do not demonstrate any sign of neurotoxicity, I think we extrapolate from that 2C-B is unlikely to be neurotoxic (at reasonable doses I guess...)

heerutosen said:
Had a couple good 2cb trips now with 3 hardpressed pills (spread 8-12mg)
Would taking 4 pills be too much? If i had to guess my last trip was 30mg and if i hit the top of the spread with 4 pills it would be 48mg.
could this be too much? Or should i be good?
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It could be too much, but if you have had substantial experience with high doses before, you may be fine. I'd be hesitant, particularly as you sound unsure of the quanitity of 2C-B per pill- it could be a bit of a shock if one of the tablets is substantially stronger then others. Either way, follow your gut and be safe :)
 
willow11 said:
No, to the best of our knowledge, 2C-B does not appear to be neurotoxic, but I doubt there have been any real in-depth studies and scientific analysis of this. Looking at the lack of reported adverse effects of 2C-B and others related to it by users, as well the fact that related serotonergic psychedelics (such as LSD), having been studied, do not demonstrate any sign of neurotoxicity, I think we extrapolate from that 2C-B is unlikely to be neurotoxic (at reasonable doses I guess...)



It could be too much, but if you have had substantial experience with high doses before, you may be fine. I'd be hesitant, particularly as you sound unsure of the quanitity of 2C-B per pill- it could be a bit of a shock if one of the tablets is substantially stronger then others. Either way, follow your gut and be safe :)
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Yeah. I guess i'll start with 3.5 for the next couple trips before i move on to 4 pills. Thanks :)
 
can i do 2cb two days in a row? i'm going to a two-day festival. i was thinking about 2cb at friday and mdma+2cb on saturday? this is gonna be my first time trying 2cb. is it okay to drink alcohol and do some coke on friday some hours before the 2cb?
 
Hello! This will be my first post ever, seeing as how i just recently joined. I have been lurking this site for years but i have just recently stumbled across a very good supply of 2c-b and have been experimenting with this chemical for the past 5 months. I've been researching and reading about this extensively on 2c-b which has inspired me to jion.
I'll help to the best of my abilities.

I have used 2cb over the course of consecutive days multiple times. I have noticed an increase in tolerance but not by much. You can use it 2 days in a row but you must increase your dosage to achieve the previous level of effect the day before.
As for the coke, i couldnt tell you but i would assume the coke comedown wouldnt help with the already somewhat anxious comeup.
You'll be fine if you drink a few hours before
 
I have a new 2C-B story! I've done it probably a dozen times now, with dosages ranging from 15 to 35 mg. It is probably my favorite substance to use in a party setting, though I've found going over 30 mg makes it quite difficult for me to communicate. Well I was at one of your standard psychedelic drug parties with maybe a dozen people who were all on LSD, mushrooms, 2C-B, and/or MDMA last night and decided to go for broke and take 42 mg. I bombed it.

WOW it was a crazy experience! I was on another planet just 30 minutes after dosing, and by 45 minutes or so I was crawling around on the ground barely able to communicate with anyone. It felt a lot like being in a dream. Visuals were totally overwhelming and I frequently found myself completely unable to see the room that I was in. One of my friends kept giving me hits of his dab vaporizer which usually left me totally incapacitated for 10 minutes at a time while I fell into crazy swirling vortices of color.

Besides the visuals being the same as an ordinary dose but much more vivid and stronger, I also experience some severe auditory hallucinations even though I can't recall ever having auditory hallucinations on 2C-B. The pitches of people's voices, music, etc. would rapidly fluctuate up and down, as well as speed up and slow down. Sometimes I would see a friend say something and either hear it before I saw their mouth start moving or hear it delayed. This was really neat and I spent some time making strange noises and listening to how my brain was altering it.

Around the peak, I did get a couple very confusing moments where I suddenly felt stone-cold sober despite the incredible amount of color and sound distortion I was experiencing. It was actually a bit frightening - the first time I've ever felt frightened on 2C-B. These moments passed quickly though, and I'd soon be lost in fractal seas once again.

I did not experience any ego death. Since I was so completely fucked up my friends were taking good care of me and I never got to the point where I felt like I didn't know them or didn't know who I was. I was essentially always aware that I was who I've always been and had just taken a massive amount of drugs.

I didn't keep track of time so I have no idea what time it was when I started behaving coherently or regained the ability to stand again. I'd estimate that it was about 4 hours into the experience when I managed to start having conversations that were more than 2-3 words again. The rest of the night was absolutely fantastic and reminded me of a lower dose 2C-B experience.

Overall I had a ton of fun, it was easily the best trip I've had for about a year. I'd definitely recommend a high dosage experience if you are in a great set and setting and can survive the feeling of being shot out of a cannon. I've felt a bit like an exposed nerve ending today - loud noises and sudden movements are rather unpleasant and so I've been avoiding people all day, but it's nothing worse than an ordinary hangover. 16 mg of 2C-E has left me feeling much worse than this the next day.

Edit: Forgot to mention body load and other physical factors. I've never had any body load or nausea trouble with 2C-B and that continued to be true here. If anything, it feels like a pain killer - I feel like I'm floating, like a ghost. I did feel something intense happening around my crotch on the come up that gave me a strong desire to take off my clothes, but I decided against it (even though I was with a group for whom nudity is no big deal and I frequently end up naked at these types of parties, so it's not like I was feeling any social pressure against it).
 
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I find 2cb to be really interesting. The headspace In combination with the intense visuals that are really unique. They almost look oily, as if the objects in your surroundings are saturated by each other. It's really hard to explain.

My favorite attribute is the time dilation. It seems to make everything move in slow motion!
 
My friends and me used 2c-b recently. Overall impression is that 18-23 mg is not enough for experienced people (not visual etc), but is awesome for people who tripped very few times in their lives, if any.
30 is great, through.

For me, as always, even 60 mg is not enough for real fun. Damn my metabolism.
 
Just wondering if anyone can tell me whether if I take 2cb tomorrow morning, will it interfere with the effects of LSD and MDMA that night? Roughly 12 hours between the 2cb and the candyflip
 
In theory it should have an impact because of tolerance from the 2C-B, as all serotonergic psychedelics have cross-tolerance.
 
My friends used 2c-b in range of 25 mg HCl recently. This seems full-blown trip, but still not as confusing as tryptamine trip. Contrary to underwhelming 20-23mg trip some of my friends did before, 25 seems to be better spot, leaving one satisfied. Also, some people reported pleasant afterglow and being content with life in the next days, myself included.

Music sounds just too powerful on peak, body twisting and moving according to its tones.
 
Does anyone else get really intense, borderline painful muscle tension from this chem?

I tried 30mg and the bodyload hit me hard -- nausea/GI distress on the comeup, which while annoying and unpleasant I can deal with. However, the muscle tension on the comedown was incredibly uncomfortable. Even while lying down, I constantly had to shift myself around because if I was in one position for too long my muscles would become tense to the point of feeling like they were seizing up.
 
Yes, i have definitely felt muscle tension. I have noticed though that this particular side effect can vary no matter the dosage.
i found that walking around and keeping generally active will alleviate most/if not all of the tension.
 
I found 2c-b to be a very odd and unpredictable RC. Unaware of the dosage in the capsule I railed a 3rd of it (Not a good idea) waited an hour then bombed the rest.

Note I had been smoking grams of deepweb smoke all day with no tolerance and was uncomfortably stoned throughout the experiance.

The come up somehow lasted about 2 hours and the visuals were just plain weird and inconsistent, coming and going or only appearing if I looked at certain people or parts of the room ranging from mild disturbances to full blown ones where everything is distorted

I also had the worst body load I've ever had. Very intense and the sensation of electricity moving round my body.
 
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Same here, when it's good the trip comes out fantastic, giddy, laughy, euphoric.
Sometime's though the body load is uncomfortable and the trip never really goes anywhere. Each time this has happened to me is because i smoked marijuana with it.
 
So... last night I took 25mg 2C-B and wasn't feeling much of anything two hours after ingestion. So then we ate 16-17mg 4-HO-MiPT (miprocin) which led to a strong trip. It was hard to tell if they synergized. I want to say yes because I was tripping very hard, intense visuals and that damned muscle tension at the end. But this still doesn't explain why neither me nor my friend felt nothing before taking the miprocin?
My only other experience with this batch was with 30mg and it was a great trip, strong but manageable. I know the 2Cs have a steep dose-response curve but it seems ridiculous that 5mg would make the different of tripping hard to not tripping at all.
 
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