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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 2C-B Thread - Stage 2

Sir Ron Pib said:
Anyone seen/tried small white tablets labelled II oneside CB the other? The Stimulation has been really strong with these - is this the synth or is this another PEA where the bodyload just far far outweights the benefits for me? That was certainly the case with 2CT-7 & 2C-I and at least in the case of the 2C-I am know for a total fact the product was pure. These tablets produce a green reaction on a marquis reagent but that's obviously a limited test.
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2C-B is the only 'classic phenethylamine' that doesn't really have a bodyload...well this one and 2C-C. Everyone is different but easy on the body with a tendency to feel really good is kinda the hallmark of 2C-B. I think it was called the original psychedelic aphrodisiac long before 'foxy methoxy.'
 
I've found that it has a body load just most people can manage it very well. Insufflating will definitely increase the nausea though. The first time I threw up on 2c-b was after insufflating a reallly large dose (three unknown sized keybumps in a dark concert as my favorite band was coming on) but it was more of me just coughing up the unpleasant post nasal drip. I threw up a second time because I snorted a ~4mg line in the middle of a quite a few lines of coke.

orally i've never had any problems with body load though, even at 38mg.
 
SONN said:
I've found that it has a body load just most people can manage it very well. Insufflating will definitely increase the nausea though. The first time I threw up on 2c-b was after insufflating a reallly large dose (three unknown sized keybumps in a dark concert as my favorite band was coming on) but it was more of me just coughing up the unpleasant post nasal drip. I threw up a second time because I snorted a ~4mg line in the middle of a quite a few lines of coke.

orally i've never had any problems with body load though, even at 38mg.
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Haha you like coc and tripping don't you? I really miss 2c-B, I NEED more!
 
morninggloryseed said:
2C-B is the only 'classic phenethylamine' that doesn't really have a bodyload...well this one and 2C-C. Everyone is different but easy on the body with a tendency to feel really good is kinda the hallmark of 2C-B. I think it was called the original psychedelic aphrodisiac long before 'foxy methoxy.'
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Those two definitely carry a body load, but I agree it's significantly less than most 2Cs. I tend to be a bit sensitive to body load, so I understand how those on the other end of the spectrum might find them to be without the load at all, but trust me, it's there.
 
morninggloryseed said:
2C-B is the only 'classic phenethylamine' that doesn't really have a bodyload...well this one and 2C-C. Everyone is different but easy on the body with a tendency to feel really good is kinda the hallmark of 2C-B. I think it was called the original psychedelic aphrodisiac long before 'foxy methoxy.'
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Well that's what I've always thought but this was really bad - Tried them several times; hardly any effect in terms of psychedelia at all but the body is maxed out totally - really uncomfortable to the point of dysphoric; had to benzo myself down - waited 14 years* to get hold of 2C_B and paid an absolute ridiculus fortune for it; this feels like absolute shit. Really totally fed up : ( Guess I'll never get a go of B

Going to send some off for testing, rest in the bin

AVOID THESE PILLS

*got hold of a tiny nearly pointless amount in 2000 again at a stupid price; if you include the dealer running away to South Africa with a huge amount of money of mine; 2C-B and bad luck have been totally intertwined for me.
 
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I get no body load from 2CB. Maybe a half a second of nausea, but that is probably from the acceleration. 2CT-2 and 2CI were harsher in terms of stimulation. 2CC and 2CD had no body load either.

Also at this point I am stunned my last 25 mg 2CB trip was as deep, beautiful, and life affirming as a mushroom trip. That never happened before. I was in the camp that it was very colorful and trippy with empathogenic effects, but not deep. It proved me wrong. It goes to show any psychedelic can be deep at times.
 
I don't find mushrooms all that life affriming tbh that's why I've wished for 2C-B and the like. Anyway I should probably avoid this thread now - just going to make me depressed.
 
JackARoe said:
2CT-2 and 2CI were harsher in terms of stimulation. 2CC and 2CD had no body load either.

Also at this point I am stunned my last 25 mg 2CB trip was as deep, beautiful, and life affirming as a mushroom trip. That never happened before. I was in the camp that it was very colorful and trippy with empathogenic effects, but not deep. It proved me wrong. It goes to show any psychedelic can be deep at times.
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Ditto on the bodyload with T2 and 2C-I. Both of those had a great trip headspace wise, but the bodyload with them both was so severe I won't take them anymore. T2 always gave me an unproductive puke-fest (as opposed to productive purge) and 2C-I was waaay to stimulating. 2C-D has a little bit of what I called 'body kink' in the beginning, but it quickly passes and then it feels WONDERFUL.

Your 2C-B experience sounds like what happened to me. For years I enjoyed 2C-B but always found it light, mostly recreational...and this was up to 36mg. Then one day (same batch as I have always used) I took 24mg and was blown away with deeply introspective (trippy) effects, visions (as opposed to visuals), and some incredible empathy ala MDMA with the two friends I was with. Ever since then, I've held 2C-B in the same regard I do 2C-C and 2C-D....which is that they are good all-purpose psychedelics with the potential for something deep. Still looking for the purely recreational 2C...I bet 2C-T-21 is the answer....I can't believe I still never tried the stuff. Spring time is coming isn't it? :)
 
hmm, IME 2C-B has body load too. It's not as bad as other phens; I'd liken it to MGS' "body kink" during come-up. I tend to get that body kink with everything though, even MDMA.

The body load doesn't hold a candle to something like 2C-E though. I think this will all vary from person to person as 2C-T-2 and 2C-I produce a body kink, but not the unproductibe vomit-fest of 2C-E; which is smooth for many others
 
PepperSocks said:
I think this will all vary from person to person as 2C-T-2 and 2C-I produce a body kink, but not the unproductibe vomit-fest of 2C-E; which is smooth for many others
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I'll maintain a lot of these issues (bodyload, as well as mental effects) in my own case, seem to vary as time goes on. For instance, the last time I took 2C-E I had 0% bodyload. Or the time I took 2C-B last year at 24mg and it blew me away, astounded me at how deep it was. Sometimes I really do think issues of bodyload are often (but not always) psychosomatic.
 
morninggloryseed said:
For years I enjoyed 2C-B but always found it light, mostly recreational...and this was up to 36mg. Then one day (same batch as I have always used) I took 24mg and was blown away with deeply introspective (trippy) effects, visions (as opposed to visuals), and some incredible empathy ala MDMA with the two friends I was with.
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That's what happened to me. In fact I almost forgot I took 2CB it was going so deep (same batch, 25 mgs is the highest I have gone). I was pretty thrilled and it was what I needed. But my trips before that were always fun and colorful with great music enhancement, but not insights and visions. It really had me rebooted too, it was what I needed. I felt great after it and integrated for a few weeks after. Interesting. Maybe that's why Shulgin liked it so much. Maybe there is a wall to get past?

Also spot on with the 2CI stimulation and 2CT-2 stimulation and nausea. Add an end of the trip diarrhea for 2CT-2. 2CI was so stimulating I had to keep pacing and got a little concerned. But after that period the trip got very colorful and emotional. (didn't someone just post they always cry on 2CI? Well I get it.) But 2CB (for me) had no load and it could be a public, beach, concert psychedelic anytime.

I did try 2CT-21 years ago. I only had 8 mgs. I think I posted in the 2CT-21 too right after. It may have been a light dose, but it felt like a trip without the trip. It for sure hade some empathogenic qualities, but it didn't excite me and that was all I had.

And I do believe Spring is around the corner MGS. :) Although with it being 8 F out right now it doesn't seem like it. Although late winter trips can be healing too.
 
SONN said:
I've found that it has a body load just most people can manage it very well. Insufflating will definitely increase the nausea though. The first time I threw up on 2c-b was after insufflating a reallly large dose (three unknown sized keybumps in a dark concert as my favorite band was coming on) but it was more of me just coughing up the unpleasant post nasal drip. I threw up a second time because I snorted a ~4mg line in the middle of a quite a few lines of coke.

orally i've never had any problems with body load though, even at 38mg.
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Was your nose very numb after the coke? I get nausea when insufflating any of the 2C-x series normally but I think it's because of the foul taste combined with the burn, when I snort a little lidocaine first and have no burn there seems to be little/no bodyload and no nausea. The drip still sucks a little but I found just using a little more lidocaine actually numbed my throat enough that I didn't even notice the drip. :)
 
I like 2C-B okay but I have never been deep with it at all or experienced it as strongly as I'd like even recreationally. I suppose next time I try it I should try 40mg or so because 30mg doesn't do a while lot to me. Actually one time 2C-B helped me get deep, I took it after the peak of some pretty weak acid and laid down to closed eye music... I split into multiple being split from the center point of the top of my head straight down through the rest of my body. Crazy adventures, it was quite nice though not overwhelmingly strong at all even then.
 
I never got much enjoyment from 2C-B on its own; the visuals were incredible at 20-25 mg oral doses, laughter was abundant, but I found it gave me significant discomfort in my back and shoulders, and also wasn't very interesting mentally.

Recently though, I've been enjoying combinations of methylone and 2C-B (both intranasal) and have found the 2C-B to really shine in these cases. I'll only need a single line of 125-175 mg with 8-12 mg 2C-B for the night and there is no compulsion to redose since the two work so magnificently together. It provides a solid 4 hour experience with incredible euphoria, enhanced/brightened colours, minor visual fluctuations, and overall feelings of serenity.

Side effects are typical of higher doses of methylone; jaw tension, increased body temperature, sweating and dilated pupils (though my pupils don't dilate significantly with methylone alone). I also vomited the first time attempting this combination. I was laying down and didn't quite feel nauseous, more like I had a lot of air in my gut, but I knew I was going to throw up so I stood up to get to the bathroom. As soon as I stood straight up, I threw up into my mouth and the effects hit completely; my whole room was vibrant despite being dimly lit, I felt significantly taller than I am, unrealistically so, I was extremely euphoric, and my mind ran through a multitude of possibilities of what to do with the vomit in my mouth in an instant. I grabbed a cup, threw up my stomach contents, and the rest of the trip was blissful.
 
The sensation of being taller was coupled with this greatly liberating feeling that I was a strong and independent human being and fortunate to be in this very contained vessel of a body in a uncontainable world/universe. It was as though I were standing atop a mountain and had just conquered the globe, only more meaningful as I had conquered myself. Very strange sensation that occurred as a very brief cognitive flash.
 
I fucking LOVE 2C-B, probably the most perfect psychedelic I'll ever have the pleasure of trying. LSD is still the favorite, but I think if I could only have one it would be 2C-B. It's effects are just so diverse, controllable and FUN that I can't imagine it'll ever be topped.


2C-B + MXE = Bliss :D




The only thing is, 2C-B is kind of a background drug. As in, you can ignore it if you really choose. If you just let things flow and don't worry how high you are 9/10 times you'll not have a single worry but if you try and gauge how "fucked up" you are than 2C-B might not be the drug for you. Not alone, at least. It's the perfect combo drug, it's pretty challenging to think of a bad drug to combine with 2C-B IMO
 
^ i agree. even alcohol is great with 2c-b and i usually hate drinking while tripping. getting drunk on 40mg gave me the best visuals i've EVER had on a psych
 
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