Gibberings CLXI: The Numerals are Probably Wrong, The Words Within Most Certainly Are

[Sammy G]

Maybe the meetings haven't helped that much in their case? Or maybe they just like the meetings? I hear that most of the NA groups in London are basically networking exercises for celebrities.

Or maybe they're just playing to the press? Brand in particular is a bit of a 'professional reformed addict' (and pious at that); in fact it's more or less his entire schtick these days.

I can think of countless other famous people who are quietly getting on with their respective recoveries with no need whatsoever to attend these appointments, or indeed to talk to the press about them.

 

[Nicklazz]

Just when I think I've managed to snag post #666 for the first time in ages...

I am sorry Sammy haha

You think you are bad? I live in Aberdeen where the highest population of urban seagulls in the world! (Well, supposedly, one of the highest now... Cardiff has got the honour, fine by me... I'd rather have less seagulls. )

Wow ok happy I don't live there, there is pretty enough of em here, sum times fuckin flying 100's of them over my building. Or it looks like 100's :D

 

[mydrugbuddy]

Aberystwyth gets massive flocks of Starlings. Prior to migration it seems they all head to Aberystwyth Pier, and can be seen in huge swarms.

Starling's over Aberystwyth Pier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSNHaatMC4w

That's some amazing footage. Is spectacular enough stone cold sober but i could kind of imagine that being something else alltogether if tripping on something or other to various extents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaOFvG935eg

David Attenborough had some even better footage but i cannae find it. 8)

How come the Scots have nicked the Welsh word Aber (mouth of an estuary i believe) for Aberdeen

For anyone who gives a shit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etymology_of_Aberdeen

 

[Nicklazz]

Thats amazing MDB! Wow

 

[mydrugbuddy]

Shiiit it's as well I'm in the gibbering thread- started off trying to make a point but got a bit lost along the way

No, it didn't. It was all good.

 

[Sammy G]

How come the Scots have nicked the Welsh word Aber (mouth of an estuary i believe) for Aberdeen

It goes back to the time when a similar (or identical) language was spoken throughout the whole of Britain, long before Gaelic took over in Scotland.

You'll usually see it rendered as 'Inver' in Scotland, which is a later form; however you'll see a lot of examples of 'Aber' too.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

"Aber-" is a common Brythonic element, meaning a "confluence". It is presumably that the Pictish language was at least partly P-Celtic as evidenced by various names. Other examples of this prefix in Scotland are Aberfeldy, Aberdour, and "Aberbrothick" (an old form of "Arbroath"). In Wales, there are frequent examples such as Aberystwyth and Abertawe (the Welsh for "Swansea") are examples. Other Brythonic examples include Falmouth (which is known as "Aberfal" in Cornish), and Aber Wrac'h near Plouguerneau in Brittany.

Those are my own words, not plagiarised from wiki, ofcourse not indeed.

 

[ScotchMist]

You've hit the nail on the head there Mr Funkhouse.

What you say about mental health is an avenue im going to be exploring to see if that maybe a or part reason of my self destructive drug use.. ive had numerous people throughout my life from childhood express concerns about depression, id always dismissed it and claimed i was alright, 'im fine'... im a tough guy, I dont get depressed etc... think its time to face facts and seek some help..

I maybe fine and it could just be that I love drugs. Who knows..???-

 

[Sammy G]

"Aber-" is a common Brythonic element, meaning a "confluence". It is presumably that the Pictish language was at least partly P-Celtic as evidenced by various names. Other examples of this prefix in Scotland are Aberfeldy, Aberdour, and "Aberbrothick" (an old form of "Arbroath"). In Wales, there are frequent examples such as Aberystwyth and Abertawe (the Welsh for "Swansea") are examples. Other Brythonic examples include Falmouth (which is known as "Aberfal" in Cornish), and Aber Wrac'h near Plouguerneau in Brittany.

Those are my own words, not plagiarised from wiki, ofcourse not indeed.

Told you, didn't I?

 

[Sammy G]

Very true indeed.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

Told you, didn't I?

yeah, i have a geeky interest in such things, i should find a documentary to watch about the evolution of pictish (w/e that is) and gaelic/celtic languages. Apparently English was very much the latecomer and is a mixture of French, Viking, Latin and Germanic words, or something. I'll have to refresh my memory. I think i caught a glimpse of a program about it all, many years ago.

 

[Sammy G]

yeah, i have a geeky interest in such things, i should find a documentary to watch about the evolution of pictish (w/e that is) and gaelic/celtic languages. Apparently English was very much the latecomer and is a mixture of French, Viking, Latin and Germanic words, or something. I'll have to refresh my memory. I think i caught a glimpse of a program about it all, many years ago.

Yeah, you've remembered correctly.

It wasn't until the sixth century that Old English began to creep in, following the Anglo-Saxon invasion.

 

[masaz]

Yeah, it's a mix of everything. Old English is almost completely unfamiliar (first recorded instance of any kind of English Literature is from ~630AD and is in both Latin and Old English, just for a little fact that kind fascinated me), was almost entirely Germanic. It's not til you get to the French turning up around 1100 that you start to see it become a bit more familiar and continues to do so, with a kind of rebellion against the French and elements of the Old English seeping back in later on to eventually turn into what we have today.

From what I recall anyway. Currently studying Chaucer, who was writing around the 1400s and he's a lot easier to read without a translation than the Old English stuff which pretty much requires the translation or a bit of a knowledge of a Germanic/Scandinavian language.

 

[ScotchMist]

Cool. Just keep trying to get to where you wanna be and remember at certain times it's all about acceptance (of ourselves, other people and just life in general). I also think we all need to watch out for self fulfilling prophecies- this relates to everything we do in life.

Scotch if people have been saying to you since childhood about depression then there's bound to be summit in it. Wo1uldn't worry bout if but try and get to speak to a counsellor to get you talking and help u figure stuff out.

I promise that's the last of my preaching/advise/waffling :D

Yeah pack it in now you know it all

Ive got an appointment booked for this Friday so I'll see how it goes.

Cheers for the preaching/advise and waffling, it was helpful

 

[masaz]

I agree. Though a lot of people's stim use is anything but 'functional' and practical, however they may kid themselves.

Mine starts out functional, for about half an hour.

Doc actually gave me the prescription to keep me going, so feel a little less anxious. Will feel even LESS anxious when I actually pick it up. Been a busy day. Out again at 4 to see me clinic-y people. Get some reading done and that tonight. Vaguely mopey because I keep waking up thinking I'm still living at home/with people. Does that feeling ever go away?

 

[Sammy G]

Yeah, it's a mix of everything. Old English is almost completely unfamiliar (first recorded instance of any kind of English Literature is from ~630AD and is in both Latin and Old English, just for a little fact that kind fascinated me), was almost entirely Germanic. It's not til you get to the French turning up around 1100 that you start to see it become a bit more familiar and continues to do so, with a kind of rebellion against the French and elements of the Old English seeping back in later on to eventually turn into what we have today.

From what I recall anyway. Currently studying Chaucer, who was writing around the 1400s and he's a lot easier to read without a translation than the Old English stuff which pretty much requires the translation or a bit of a knowledge of a Germanic/Scandinavian language.

I knew you'd want to join in the geekiness.

Good summary.

 

[masaz]

Thank you thank you :D It makes me feel better about not actually writing my essay on The Canterbury Tales right now

 

[Ceres]

Vaguely mopey because I keep waking up thinking I'm still living at home/with people. Does that feeling ever go away?

takes a while to adjust for sure...I lived on my own for years and loved it and now I'm living on my own again and having to get used to it again...some nights are a bit bleak but I'm getting my confidence back in having my own space to breath again..

 

[mydrugbuddy]

Yeah, it's a mix of everything. Old English is almost completely unfamiliar, was almost entirely Germanic tho you had monks and shit writing in Latin. It's not til you get to the French turning up around 1100 that you start to see it become a bit more familiar and continues to do so, with a kind of rebellion against the French and elements of the Old English seeping back in later on.

From what I recall. Currently studying Chaucer, who was writing around the 1400s and he's a lot easier to read without a translation than the Old English stuff which pretty much requires the translation or a bit of a knowledge of a Germanic/Scandinavian language.

Its a fascinating mongrel of languages English isnt it. Continually evolving too.

The most historic book i have read and enjoyed of my own free will, ie not being forced by a school to read it, is Oscar Wilde's Dorian Gray. That's a 125 years old, the language hasnt changed much in that time, infact it still sounds very stylish and modern by todays standards imo, the only main difference was that people used horses and not the motor car to get around on. I attempted to read something by Marquis de Sade which was 225 years old and it was unreadable. As is will Self though whos works are only 10 years old.

 

[Ceres]

reading will self's books are a good way to expand your vocabulary, certainly. they are also all fucking brilliant reads.