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Opiate and opioid withdrawal: Coping strategies and medication

Sorry MDB it wasn't trying to be judgemental or anything. I was just interested because a lot of people think they are addicted to bupe when really they are only dependent on it (as is the case for antidepressants etc). And because people often get confused bupernorphine is getting a bad name of being highly addictive when really it is not the case. Problaby a debate for another thread n I apologise for going off topic. I was just curious to know what you think with going through this currently, that's all.

Wcote. I'm not addicted to bupe. I know addiction n it's so very different. In fact when my cat passed away I forgot to take it until 3 pm. I also forget now n then to take it straight away as I'm on the Herbalife diet (I don't believe in diets but I'm trying one as an experient). There's NO WAY I'd have forgotten to take codeine - it was on my mind 24/7.

Anyway sorry for subject change was just interested n I think asking that question elsewhere may have looked silly.

Evey x
 
I don't get how you don't see your physical addiction to bupe as well..... an addiction. You stop taking bupe tomorrow you will go into WD. Because you are physically addicted to it.

You could say perhaps you are mentally dependant on bupe?
 
no i didnt take it as judgemental i just didnt understand the difference. I still dont tbh but never mind. I'm getting off it, thats the important thing as far as im concerned. :D

Valerian and Pregabalin anyone ?

Fuck it, im taking a prega.

Hi Buddy,
I found pregabalin very helpful for the sub WD. I got a overall uncomfortable body buzzing and sweating during sub WD that it helped with. I had tried to quit sub four times before and was unable to get past the first few weeks, but the fifth time a friend sent me loads of pregabalin and it helped me tolerate the withdrawal. I wouldn't use it until you're completely off all opiates.
I never found Valerian very helpful at all...
Wishing you lots of strength!
 
sorry if it's been repeated, but soma (muscle relaxant) and tramadol. it's worked for a few friends of mine
 
Hi Buddy,
I found pregabalin very helpful for the sub WD. I got a overall uncomfortable body buzzing and sweating during sub WD that it helped with. I had tried to quit sub four times before and was unable to get past the first few weeks, but the fifth time a friend sent me loads of pregabalin and it helped me tolerate the withdrawal. I wouldn't use it until you're completely off all opiates.
I never found Valerian very helpful at all...
Wishing you lots of strength!

cheers yeah thats a good way of describing it, boddy buzzing in an unpleasant way, like my skin is crawling, especially around my shoulders and back, fucking canabinoids seemed to bring it on last nighht weirdly, and it hasnt stopped since, but the preg is helping, cold sweats has been virtually non existent so far.

Got some valerian stewing away for 15 minutes right now. I think that also helps, it might just be a psychological trick i dunno. I also didnt know that stuff is also used as horse food until recently lol, jesus christ why dont they just feed them hay, VR is quite expenive, and horses could get through about £1,000 worth of it a day, absolutely crazy.
 
Its not too bad atall, about 50 times easier than it was last time, so far. Possibly i was rushing it a bit too much last time, just reducing and reducing and not stopping long enough to recharge, leaving me quite rundown, and unable to hold out at the end.

I suspect the worst is probably yet to come this time, i realy dunno.

Gonna try cannabinoids again tonight & see if they set of that unpleassant body buzz thing again, i wont bother with them any more if they do, at least for a while.

I think the valerian and preg is helping but i dunno if that is delaying recovery. Bloody awkward one that.
 
Stay with fella! Yeah when your blood is 'boiling' its fucking horrible! You got restless legs yet, that was what always got me fist, even when I still had a habit ever morning I would wake up to aching legs, never nice if I had no gear and had to go visit my mates place!

You tried taking paracetamol and ibuprofen? Every little helps, I know it is easy to push them aside but for the sake of a quid from Boots you could get 16 tablets of each. Although ibuprofen might not agree with your stomach.


Pregabalin does help although I found it more useful with benzo withdrawal.

Keep on at it bud! %)
 
cheers for the encouragement, so far so good really this time round, everything has been far easier this time, so far. I slept right through the night last night, for the first time in about a week, as i had been waking up at all hours and struggling to get back to sleep. That was possibly due to the pregabalin and valerian. Prega definately potentiates the hypnotic effects of etiz.

I know im not out of the woods yet it may take a day or few more days for the wds to set in, when all the bupe in my body will have been eliminated. Maybe because i tapered down to 0.1 this time, and have quit nicotine, and had several weeks 'off' of tapering and Wding to recharge my batteries a bit im much physically fitter and more resilient this time. I have no idea yet.
 
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Heya. Popped on just to say alright to people and picked this thread as I'm trying to reign in my opiate use right now. Can really relate with what shambles wrote a couple of pages back about going through w/d's and how you can turn a bad experience positive by using it as a reminder not to get so deep in the next time. I had the worst w/d's by a long run last summer when I came off everything I was doing in a rushed 2 week period when I went broke. Was so fucking brutal but served a purpose as it let me know all in one go exactly how many drugs I was putting in my body. I been through my share of w/d's over the past ten years so I knew what was going on but still, it was definitely not something I wanna repeat anytime soon.

I been getting into the AH-7921 the last couple months, along with some ethylphen and pyrazolam. Last summer has stayed with me hard though and I'm determined not to get like it again. Yesterday I woke up and almost instinctively knew it was time for a break before my tolerance gets up again. Just waited it out in my room listening to 18hrs of bill burr podcasts in a row or some shit. So glad I did it though. Partly mental (had all my drugs in my room with me so was a real will power situation) and partly physical - as a preventative like I said. I had the shakes and everything but it was all real light (managed to get six hours of rough sleep and everything).

Nice one on the bupe progress mdb. Just read through the last few pages of the thread all in one. Flushing that pack was a smart move. I always feel its good to draw a line under these things as fast as possible when your minds made up, within reason obviously. Its always good moving forward though I find. Nice.
 
I think I'm beginning to feel "normal" again, 6 days after finally running out following a binge that lasted right through Christmas and New Year. It actually coincided with a real cold (coughing up greenies and everything). Saw that off with a decent Vindaloo .....
 
2 days and 12 hours, fuck - WD is hitting me, and I know it's gonna get so much worse until I can fix up.
Fuckity, fuckity fuck fuck, fuck.
 
2 days and 12 hours, fuck - WD is hitting me, and I know it's gonna get so much worse until I can fix up.
Fuckity, fuckity fuck fuck, fuck.

Do you have anything for it? Have you tried a hot bath? Sent you a PM. I'm sorry you're going through this. If you wanna shout , scream, rant whatever we're here just do it. Whatever to get through it x
 
Heya. Popped on just to say alright to people and picked this thread as I'm trying to reign in my opiate use right now. Can really relate with what shambles wrote a couple of pages back about going through w/d's and how you can turn a bad experience positive by using it as a reminder not to get so deep in the next time. I had the worst w/d's by a long run last summer when I came off everything I was doing in a rushed 2 week period when I went broke. Was so fucking brutal but served a purpose as it let me know all in one go exactly how many drugs I was putting in my body. I been through my share of w/d's over the past ten years so I knew what was going on but still, it was definitely not something I wanna repeat anytime soon.

I been getting into the AH-7921 the last couple months, along with some ethylphen and pyrazolam. Last summer has stayed with me hard though and I'm determined not to get like it again. Yesterday I woke up and almost instinctively knew it was time for a break before my tolerance gets up again. Just waited it out in my room listening to 18hrs of bill burr podcasts in a row or some shit. So glad I did it though. Partly mental (had all my drugs in my room with me so was a real will power situation) and partly physical - as a preventative like I said. I had the shakes and everything but it was all real light (managed to get six hours of rough sleep and everything).

Nice one on the bupe progress mdb. Just read through the last few pages of the thread all in one. Flushing that pack was a smart move. I always feel its good to draw a line under these things as fast as possible when your minds made up, within reason obviously. Its always good moving forward though I find. Nice.

Fuckin hell that is awesome will power to hold it with the drugs actually there in the room if WDs were hitting you severely. Theres no way on earth i could have done that, flushing them was the only way,if the wds do get bad i dont have that kind of willpower. I didnt want to admit this, but several benzos later and the truth is out, i do have some kratom too, i suppose that is gonna need disposong of too somehow. Given its milder nature, whats the reckoning i could stick to that stuff just once amonth or something. Fuck sake i bought 2 batches of it, and have yet to esperience a single thing from it as my tolerance was too high. I really wanna experience it, when im out of the woods, having it here and all, and having the possibilty i might feel something this time.

im struggl;ing a little with the benzo and cannabinoid compensation levels, this is to try to get over any psycholigal wobbles, if i take to much etiz i fall asleep and feel dead, so i take noids to wake my mind up again, and then i get para, so i need more etiz. Lets say this final pshycolgical adjustment is a bit harder than the physical one, this time round. Everyones telling me i should expect it, i guess the best thing to do is try not to take anything of it seriously, i dunno why im even taking noids they can make me para at the best of times, but sometimes, very rarely you get a nice tranquil stone. Just benzos on their own takes a bit of getting used to. I need to give time, time.

thank you everyone who has supported me, In a few weeks i'll be able to stop hogging this thread, and may start thinking about finding a benzo support w/d thread and hog that instead. :\
 
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