DaveTripper
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I'm calling BS on your park story, sir.
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Angel's Trumpet (or so I think)
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I'm calling BS on your park story, sir.
Psychonautical
Bluelighter
London Ontario.
Case 1
A 16-year-old boy was brought to the Children’s Hospital emergency room (ER) with disorientation, hallucinations and combativeness. He had ingested 49 Angel’s Trumpet seeds the night before. Initially his vital signs were temperature 36.3°C, pulse rate 80 beats/min, respiratory rate 14 breaths/min, blood pressure 122/68 mmHg and oxygen saturation 98% on room air. His Glasgow Coma Scale (GCS) was 12, and his pupils were 6 mm (normal 2 mm to 3 mm) and sluggish. He responded to his name but was otherwise disoriented. He became agitated and aggressive, and was given 10 mg of intramuscular (IM) diazepam and 10 mg of IM haloperidol because he had spat out the oral medications that were given to him. He was also placed in restraints. The patient remained agitated and was given three more doses of 5 mg IM diazepam over the next 4 h. The patient was transferred to the paediatric intensive care unit for further monitoring due to benzodiazepine use. He had an uneventful stay in the paediatric intensive care unit for 12 h and was transferred to the ward and discharged home 36 h later. The patient had a history of mental health problems, polysubstance abuse and contact with Child and Family Services.
Case 2
A 13-year-old boy was brought by emergency medical services and police to the Children’s Hospital ER with combativeness and visual hallucinations. The day before his admission, he had ingested Angel’s Trumpet seeds and had visual hallucinations that had resolved. On the day of admission, the patient was again hallucinating and was combative. His initial vital signs in the ER were temperature 37.1°C, pulse rate 136 beats/min, respiratory rate 36 breaths/min, blood pressure 140/80 mmHg and oxygen saturation 96% on room air. His GCS was initially 5 but quickly improved to 15, and his pupils were 5 mm. Due to his agitation and combativeness, he was placed in four-point restraints and given two doses of 2 mg IM lorazepam and a dose of methotrimeprazine. He was admitted to the hospital for two days, during which time he had two outbursts requiring security to be called. His creatinine kinase peaked on his second day of admission at 1338 U/L and his myoglobin peaked the same day at 262 ug/L (normal creatinine kinase less than 350 U/L and normal myoglobin less than 70 ug/L). The patient had a history of attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder and substance abuse, and was not currently on treatment. He had been in trouble with the law, was not in school at the time of hospitalization, and had previously been in the care of Child and Family Services. His family history was positive for substance abuse and suicide.
Case 3
A 14-year-old boy was brought by emergency medical services to the Children’s Hospital ER due to hallucinations. His mother stated that he ingested Angel’s Trumpet seeds three days earlier. He had been hallucinating, picking things out of the air and talking to people who were not there. These symptoms had decreased and he had gone to a relative’s house. His mother received a call that he was again delusional, incoherent and banging his head against the wall. On arrival in the ER, his vital signs were pulse rate 106 beats/min, respiratory rate 18 breaths/min and blood pressure 131/81 mmHg. His GCS was 13 and his pupils were 5 mm and sluggish. He continued to have visual hallucinations. For example, he thought that the blood pressure cord was his vein. He was not agitated in the ER, but 12 h after being admitted to the ward, he became extremely agitated. A code white for behaviour disturbance was called by staff. Security arrived and the patient was restrained and given 2 mg of IM lorazepam. The patient kicked out the glass in a door, and began to spit and swear at staff. His agitation lasted approximately 12 h, during which he continued to scream, swear and tried to remove his restraints. He received a total of four doses of 2 mg IM lorazepam. He had a history of polysubstance abuse and contact with Child and Family Services.
Case 4
A 13-year-old girl was brought by police to the Children’s Hospital ER after being found sitting in a downtown skywalk. She was aggressive and giving inappropriate responses. Her initial vitals signs were pulse rate 100 beats/min and respiratory rate 30 breaths/min; she was uncooperative with staff who were trying to measure her blood pressure. Her GCS was initially 11 and her pupils were 5 mm to 6 mm. She was given 5 mg of haloperidol in the ER to help her calm down. She continued to have visual hallucinations and was admitted to the ward. In hospital, she remained incomprehensible and became very agitated 12 h postadmission. She had to be restrained and given another 5 mg of IM haloperidol. She settled, and 18 h later was discharged with a normal mental status. She had a history of alcohol and polysubstance abuse, as well as self harm. She was in the care of Child and Family Services at the time of hospitalization.
Table 1 summarizes the characteristics of the patients.
Worst part is, that isn't all of them
There is literally a table of varying ages, these were just the highschool kids,
Case 1
A 16-year-old boy was brought to the Children’s Hospital emergency room (ER) with disorientation, hallucinations and combativeness. He had ingested 49 Angel’s Trumpet seeds the night before. Initially his vital signs were temperature 36.3°C, pulse rate 80 beats/min, respiratory rate 14 breaths/min, blood pressure 122/68 mmHg and oxygen saturation 98% on room air. His Glasgow Coma Scale (GCS) was 12, and his pupils were 6 mm (normal 2 mm to 3 mm) and sluggish. He responded to his name but was otherwise disoriented. He became agitated and aggressive, and was given 10 mg of intramuscular (IM) diazepam and 10 mg of IM haloperidol because he had spat out the oral medications that were given to him. He was also placed in restraints. The patient remained agitated and was given three more doses of 5 mg IM diazepam over the next 4 h. The patient was transferred to the paediatric intensive care unit for further monitoring due to benzodiazepine use. He had an uneventful stay in the paediatric intensive care unit for 12 h and was transferred to the ward and discharged home 36 h later. The patient had a history of mental health problems, polysubstance abuse and contact with Child and Family Services.
Case 2
A 13-year-old boy was brought by emergency medical services and police to the Children’s Hospital ER with combativeness and visual hallucinations. The day before his admission, he had ingested Angel’s Trumpet seeds and had visual hallucinations that had resolved. On the day of admission, the patient was again hallucinating and was combative. His initial vital signs in the ER were temperature 37.1°C, pulse rate 136 beats/min, respiratory rate 36 breaths/min, blood pressure 140/80 mmHg and oxygen saturation 96% on room air. His GCS was initially 5 but quickly improved to 15, and his pupils were 5 mm. Due to his agitation and combativeness, he was placed in four-point restraints and given two doses of 2 mg IM lorazepam and a dose of methotrimeprazine. He was admitted to the hospital for two days, during which time he had two outbursts requiring security to be called. His creatinine kinase peaked on his second day of admission at 1338 U/L and his myoglobin peaked the same day at 262 ug/L (normal creatinine kinase less than 350 U/L and normal myoglobin less than 70 ug/L). The patient had a history of attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder and substance abuse, and was not currently on treatment. He had been in trouble with the law, was not in school at the time of hospitalization, and had previously been in the care of Child and Family Services. His family history was positive for substance abuse and suicide.
Case 3
A 14-year-old boy was brought by emergency medical services to the Children’s Hospital ER due to hallucinations. His mother stated that he ingested Angel’s Trumpet seeds three days earlier. He had been hallucinating, picking things out of the air and talking to people who were not there. These symptoms had decreased and he had gone to a relative’s house. His mother received a call that he was again delusional, incoherent and banging his head against the wall. On arrival in the ER, his vital signs were pulse rate 106 beats/min, respiratory rate 18 breaths/min and blood pressure 131/81 mmHg. His GCS was 13 and his pupils were 5 mm and sluggish. He continued to have visual hallucinations. For example, he thought that the blood pressure cord was his vein. He was not agitated in the ER, but 12 h after being admitted to the ward, he became extremely agitated. A code white for behaviour disturbance was called by staff. Security arrived and the patient was restrained and given 2 mg of IM lorazepam. The patient kicked out the glass in a door, and began to spit and swear at staff. His agitation lasted approximately 12 h, during which he continued to scream, swear and tried to remove his restraints. He received a total of four doses of 2 mg IM lorazepam. He had a history of polysubstance abuse and contact with Child and Family Services.
Case 4
A 13-year-old girl was brought by police to the Children’s Hospital ER after being found sitting in a downtown skywalk. She was aggressive and giving inappropriate responses. Her initial vitals signs were pulse rate 100 beats/min and respiratory rate 30 breaths/min; she was uncooperative with staff who were trying to measure her blood pressure. Her GCS was initially 11 and her pupils were 5 mm to 6 mm. She was given 5 mg of haloperidol in the ER to help her calm down. She continued to have visual hallucinations and was admitted to the ward. In hospital, she remained incomprehensible and became very agitated 12 h postadmission. She had to be restrained and given another 5 mg of IM haloperidol. She settled, and 18 h later was discharged with a normal mental status. She had a history of alcohol and polysubstance abuse, as well as self harm. She was in the care of Child and Family Services at the time of hospitalization.
Table 1 summarizes the characteristics of the patients.
Worst part is, that isn't all of them
There is literally a table of varying ages, these were just the highschool kids,
Psychonautical
Bluelighter
I got that from the Ontario Poison Controls Website,
If you want me to continue posting Datura Stories last year i will.
If you want me to continue posting Datura Stories last year i will.
Psychonautical
Bluelighter
http://www.foodsmiths.com/ns/Displa...594b64&DocID=basic-interactions-angelstrumpet
it's also sold as a food and often milled with other seeds around these parts in ontario.
Jimsonweed (Datura stramonium) is a naturalized annual herb found across most of southern Canada. This plant contains toxic tropane alkaloids, which have caused poisoning and death in humans and other animals. Jimsonweed is named for a case of human poisoning in Jamestown, Va., when soldiers were poisoned by eating the plant in a salad and then suffered delirium and hallucinations. The seeds and leaves are deliberately used to induce intoxication. Children are attracted by the large flowers and become poisoned after sucking the nectar from the base of flowers or ingesting the seeds. Occurrences of human poisoning are more frequent than livestock poisoning in recent literature reports. Animals of all types can be poisoned. The literature mentions poisoning of cattle, goats, horses, poultry, sheep, and swine. Because of the plant''s strong odor and unpleasant taste, animals consume it only when other food is not available. The seeds are sometimes milled with other seeds and have caused problems (Cooper and Johnson 1984, Cheeke and Schull 1985, Lampe and McCann 1985).
it's also sold as a food and often milled with other seeds around these parts in ontario.
Jimsonweed (Datura stramonium) is a naturalized annual herb found across most of southern Canada. This plant contains toxic tropane alkaloids, which have caused poisoning and death in humans and other animals. Jimsonweed is named for a case of human poisoning in Jamestown, Va., when soldiers were poisoned by eating the plant in a salad and then suffered delirium and hallucinations. The seeds and leaves are deliberately used to induce intoxication. Children are attracted by the large flowers and become poisoned after sucking the nectar from the base of flowers or ingesting the seeds. Occurrences of human poisoning are more frequent than livestock poisoning in recent literature reports. Animals of all types can be poisoned. The literature mentions poisoning of cattle, goats, horses, poultry, sheep, and swine. Because of the plant''s strong odor and unpleasant taste, animals consume it only when other food is not available. The seeds are sometimes milled with other seeds and have caused problems (Cooper and Johnson 1984, Cheeke and Schull 1985, Lampe and McCann 1985).
lovegluegunnin
Bluelighter
As a fellow teen, I highly advise you not to do it again if you truly have done it already. People have already BLATANTLY told you that the dosages per leaf and you may very well end up corpse-status. Do yourself and your family a favor and get a dime bag and chill so no one who cares about you has to find you dead.
Psychonautical
Bluelighter
I'm 27 years old now.
This Happened to me when i was 16.
I was merely only passing through the park with my girlfriend on our way to see a movie downtown when we noticed literally a group of people who is normally interacting with themselves. Not interacting with themselves and literally and seemingly acting like they were all operating a different part of a giant machine.
This Happened to me when i was 16.
I was merely only passing through the park with my girlfriend on our way to see a movie downtown when we noticed literally a group of people who is normally interacting with themselves. Not interacting with themselves and literally and seemingly acting like they were all operating a different part of a giant machine.
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oldirtybizza
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I wonder how many people posting in this thread have actually tried datura, HR is about fact based advice not fear mongering and sensationalism.
Of course like any drug one can take too much (one might say any amount is too much datura) and the effects of datura are mostly highly dissociative and unpleasant but that doesn't mean if you try it you are guaranteed to end up in a one way hell ride to the psyche ward. it's a definite possibility though.
A lot of the time this drug is consumed by kids because of a lack of access to better drugs, pretty much the worst candidates for consuming such a drug and their nervous parents will almost always send them to hospital.
Saying that in my younger days before biggie got shot, I too tried not datura but the related brugmansia , I took about a quarter of a flower, it wasn't fun but it was bearable, effects lingered til the next day with all blurriness resolving a couple days after.
took a heavy dose of bupe earlier and strangely enough remembering this is making me feel a bit tripped out.
Of course like any drug one can take too much (one might say any amount is too much datura) and the effects of datura are mostly highly dissociative and unpleasant but that doesn't mean if you try it you are guaranteed to end up in a one way hell ride to the psyche ward. it's a definite possibility though.
A lot of the time this drug is consumed by kids because of a lack of access to better drugs, pretty much the worst candidates for consuming such a drug and their nervous parents will almost always send them to hospital.
Saying that in my younger days before biggie got shot, I too tried not datura but the related brugmansia , I took about a quarter of a flower, it wasn't fun but it was bearable, effects lingered til the next day with all blurriness resolving a couple days after.
took a heavy dose of bupe earlier and strangely enough remembering this is making me feel a bit tripped out.
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Yeah it's not all doom and gloom with Datura, I have a friend who is a very experienced tripper, he took Datura and was fine. Had a fucked up trip, said he spent a lot of it just staring at the wall recalling weird memories, talking to people that weren't there and at one point thought he was late for a job he left 3 years ago. Wanted a solitary trip but I checked on him anyway. There was no physical damage or illness though. He said it was 'like Fly Ageric but crazier and more delusional' which looked about right.
It's a really bad idea to do it just because you've got no access to other drugs though. I'm not normally one to recommend shittier legal psychedelic RCs but if OP is desperate I'd recommend them to do those instead. Shit, if I lived near them I'd get someone to hook em up with SOMETHING - I'd even pay for it, but not Datura...not just because you're hungry for headspace. I can only hope they're doing well right now.