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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 4

I have tried several JWH-### (I think those are the primary ones?) and their analogues and I have to admit I felt very, very similar to being high on real cannabis, only not quite indica or sativa, you could tell it was different. I've even mixed it with DMT to very nice effect. However, I avoid the stuff now as I've heard a great deal of it's highly toxic to your lungs--as in worse than cigarettes.
 
There was this bookstore where we could buy fresh herbs downtown . Damiana, marshmellow leaf always seemed to have tasted the best . When you could still buy jwh-180 we used to spray them ourselfs . ALWAYS extract with everclear . Much safer .
 
Blind Melon said:
I have tried several JWH-### (I think those are the primary ones?) and their analogues and I have to admit I felt very, very similar to being high on real cannabis, only not quite indica or sativa, you could tell it was different. I've even mixed it with DMT to very nice effect. However, I avoid the stuff now as I've heard a great deal of it's highly toxic to your lungs--as in worse than cigarettes.
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It might be worse than nicotine but it's not worse than a cigarette. The tar alone in one cigarette outweighs the entire dose of cannabinoid you should be consuming, and I don't think you smoke a pack of cannabinoids a day. There's really no way to tell exactly what it does, but obviously it hasn't caused major issues yet except in the people that were doing like a gram a week.
 
The Network said:
It might be worse than nicotine but it's not worse than a cigarette. The tar alone in one cigarette outweighs the entire dose of cannabinoid you should be consuming, and I don't think you smoke a pack of cannabinoids a day. There's really no way to tell exactly what it does, but obviously it hasn't caused major issues yet except in the people that were doing like a gram a week.
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This thread is littered with people talking about health problems from smoking synths... Like acute immediate problems, heart, lung, gastro, mental, problems abound.. Cigarettes cause cancer... But synths might too... Theyve only been around a few years...
 
most of the health problems are from major binges, it seems

i think The Network's point was that commonly accepted "responsible" amounts of cannabinoids are likely not as bad as commonly accepted "responsible" amounts of cigarettes, and i agree

unfortunately, lots of people majorly overuse synthetic cannabinoids
 
^ which is really easy to do with synths... Esp weed smokers who give it a try and then regular weed doesnt work and spice does so you smoke it in place of herb... And yea.. Well thats kinda how i got screwed up on it anyways... Seems im not the only one... but ymmv and everyones different... But even at first it wasnt very good and had pretty noticeable negative effects, both mental and physical... Mostly panic and paranoia and anxiety in the head and nausea physically...
 
Those new chemicals are a poison imho if your gonna smoke synthetics try to find the safer ones such as jwh 122 203 or 250
Has a friend literally have to be rushed to the emergency room because his third day of detox his blood pressure was 180 over something. His limbs were going numb his big toe was literally curling on its own he had racing thoughts and legs were cramping every second

He binged on 1 gram each of ab fubinca abpinca ab001 and a low purity batch of adbinca

Be warned
 
Can someone help me find a recipe for enjoyable blend with UR-144. Similar to weed, not to trippy!

I want to smoke it with dried herbs.=D

Thanks in advance.

Greets Baks

Greets Baks
 
dissolve your cannabinoid in isopropyl alcohol (5ml of isopropyl for each 1gram of herb you're planning on using)

once the cannabinoid is dissolved then mix in your herbs. mix well.

lay some wax paper (the kind used for baking cookies) on a baking sheet, spread your herb/isopropyl/cannabinoid mixture out on the baking sheet

stick it in the oven on the lowest heat setting possible. leave the oven door open just a crack, and have a fan on low blow into the oven.

check it/mix it every few hours until its dry

and you're done
 
OR you could use acetone which dries out by itself in like 10 minutes.
also acetone and water is nice because when it dries (will take much longer) the herb will be stuck togheter and you can break it down to pseudo-buds.
OR, again, you can vape the raw piwder in a lightbulb, which is the best method for me
 
What I'm confused about is why people even bother with these synthetics in the first place? I know I live in CA where the cannabis is both abundant and of a very high quality, but still... the only reason I can come up with for using "fake weed" would be because you can't get the real stuff or you need to pass a drug test.

And to say people only get health problems when they smoke irresponsibly high amounts of synthetic cannabis like, "a gram a week" WTF?!?!? That's practically nothing. I just don't get it I guess.
 
a gram a week is a lot when 1mg-5mg is enough to get you high

i personally started smoking synthetics back when i was selling blends.... back when JWH-122 / AM-2201 / etc were still legal. i don't sell anymore, but i still make blends (out of the currently legal noids) just because its so much cheaper than marijuana. $30 worth of weed lasts me a week at most, but $30 worth of self-made blend lasts me a few months.

its also nice that the synthetics don't last as long as marijuana. i can smoke a synthetic early in the day and be clear headed within a few hours. smoking marijuana early in the day leaves me foggy for the rest of the day.
 
i think its pretty fun to try other drugs on the CB1/CB2/what have you-receptors. its not like i use it as a substitute for weed, but its like... different flavors, i suppose?
also, if i smoke my weed ill be feeling it for the rest of the day, being numbed and lazy and a little spaced out, but these third-gen synthetics have such short lasting action and total comedown i can smoke an hour before something important, be super tired in the high, and then BAM back to normal just in time for the thing.
 
yeah the short duration is a huge plus at times

also, i don't typically smoke to the point of retardation, but if i feel like it -- the full agonist synthetics can get you WAY higher than any cannabis could.
 
Blind Melon said:
What I'm confused about is why people even bother with these synthetics in the first place? I know I live in CA where the cannabis is both abundant and of a very high quality, but still... the only reason I can come up with for using "fake weed" would be because you can't get the real stuff or you need to pass a drug test.

And to say people only get health problems when they smoke irresponsibly high amounts of synthetic cannabis like, "a gram a week" WTF?!?!? That's practically nothing. I just don't get it I guess.
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There are so many reasons why to buy them...
they are legal, they are CHEAP, you can vape them almost wherever you want... the high is good and I wouldn't even say it's fake weed, I wouldn't use them to sobstitute weed, I smoke both.

also a gram a week ISN't practically nothing. I don't know what tolerance you have, but it can last even a few months months with a bit of self control
 
Gram a week is possible, the trouble comes from smoking more before the previous dose, tolerance skyrockets then.

And some people have serious compulsive disorders that come out when they smoke synths, I'm one of them. I don't order it anymore cause even without tolerance a gram of 5f-akb, ab-fubinaca or sts135 will be gone in 2-4 days depending on how much I pass out.

To me most synths are crackabis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC2UO1JGAtU

Too soon?


Oh and something most people don't realise - synths are full agonists, phytocannabinoids are only partial agonists. Similar to the way Methadone is a partial agonist and Heroin is a full one, crap comparison but it's the only one I can think of off the top of my head.
 
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