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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v3; 2010 - 2022

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Thanks for asking !

I am doing ok on my taper in and of itself. Better than expected actually.

I am averaging 3 to 5 dosages of 100mcg


It's pretty hard to get under 100mcg per dosage for me.
That is the next challenge.

I am not good with math, conver's. how much is 100mcg x 3-4 equal out to for a day? 1 mg?
 
Thanks for asking !

I am doing ok on my taper in and of itself. Better than expected actually.

I am averaging 3 to 5 dosages of 100mcg

It's pretty hard to get under 100mcg per dosage for me.
That is the next challenge.

How long have you been off the H now, Cap? A while right?


I am not good with math, conver's. how much is 100mcg x 3-4 equal out to for a day? 1 mg?


Not even half a milligram. 1000mcg in 1mg
 
Wow that's great, keep it up & keep us posted! Here I am being a baby about going from 8 to 4, though I've done it in the past, it was way easier without the actual commitment to get off of maintenence. Knowing that there's a d-day in the not-so-distant future is a little scary, no matter how ready I think I am.

Rod, I didn't see any questions regarding pregnancy and suboxone so I'm not sure who you're referring to? We were sharing experiences, and the only ranting and raving I saw was directly in response to your attitude. I think we can all agree to get over it and move on now though. Maybe someday there will be a "Pregnant or nursing on Suboxone/Subutex Mega Thread" but for now, there's no better place to put it. I know it may make some people uncomfortable since it's a male-dominated forum, but I wanted to post my story in a prominent place so it would be easily found.
 
No problems here and was giving my opinion freely as it goes on this forum. That issue deserves its own thread honestly, maybe a mod or admin can hook that up. All the best to you.
 
Doesn't really matter I have been fucking around with all the better letters of the alphabet.

haha

I have a question about the micro dosing. Since you have to dose such small amounts several times a day, do you think the more frequent dosing (vs higher doses @ less frequency) in itself kind of makes it a little harder to give it up? I mean in the way that dosing so often throughout your day could be related or seen by some as an addictive behavior (in NO way am I trying to say that because you take it many times a day it IS an addictive behavior, I hope that's clear- I understand it wears off quickly at such tiny doses so it's necessary).

Or in other words, because micro doses need to be taken often, though you're inching toward the finish line, at the same time it's now that much harder to stop as we are creatures of habit, and those who have been on maintenence for years and years sure do need our routines! How do you go about dropping down from here on out?
 
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I have a question about the micro dosing. Since you have to dose such small amounts several times a day, do you think the more frequent dosing (vs higher doses @ less frequency) in itself kind of makes it a little harder to give it up? I mean in the way that dosing so often throughout your day could be related or seen by some as an addictive behavior (in NO way am I trying to say that because you take it many times a day it IS an addictive behavior, I hope that's clear- I understand it wears off quickly at such tiny doses so it's necessary).

Or in other words, because micro doses need to be taken often, though you're inching toward the finish line, at the same time it's now that much harder to stop as we are creatures of habit, and those who have been on maintenence for years and years sure do need our routines! How do you go about dropping down from here on out?

Oh it's an addiction. No doubt about that. I don't want to give it up.

I'm being heavily encouraged though. ❤

I have no helpful advice because of my jack off nature. The only solice I found today was in a wonderful ironic picture. The scene was too reinforcing to my sick mindedness.
 
I have the 8mg strips. when I opened a few of them I noticed one half looks normal and the other half Looks almost orangish/clear with orange spots. like they've been split exactly down the middle. they weren't melted to the foil or anything. has anyone seen this or know what happened to them?

also is the chemical spread evenly across the films? or can one half contain more bupe than the other?
 
I always cut mine up in to tiny pieces. Never had a problem with too low/high doses. Never seen a two tone strip though. Weird.
 
Well id be taking the Subutex AFTER my Oxycodone high.

Btw I did 40mg of Oxycodone at 4:20pm. It is now 18:17pm. I plan on taking another 40mg of Oxycodone at around 8pm is that safe? because I know 80mg is a lethal dose for someone that has no tolerance, but my doses are spread out.

Thanks for the help

80mg spread out, or taken at once, is most likely not a lethal dose. Its def too much (certainly wouldnt recommend it) but you should be ok unless you mix it with another drug/alcohol or puke in your lungs.

You'll prob puke your brains out though.

Two tone strip sounds like the bupe disintegrated? Never seen/heard of it..
 
Ya my bad, guess that topic struck a nerve in me, and I am sparing you guys my own gory details with it.

Best wishes and sorry if I offended anyone.


@the real oblivion- Methadone and prednisone sounds like a scary combo. I always hated prednisone and it can make you gain weight, mood swings etc. The suboxone tablets should help you a little with the pain. Its more about lifting your spirits that actual pain relief but I also used it as chronic pain patient. The subs are probably easier to stay on a lower dose then taper off if you want. You should see the films up there soon. They are much easier to break into small doses for tapering. The only advice I could give is don't start sub treatment at a high dose. Really not neccessary and I see alot of doctors confused about that. 8mg of sub go a long way, if you start too high its a waste. Your receptors max out around 8-12mg. Transition from meth to subs is not something I know too much about. Hopefully someone on here can elaborate on that for you.

Hey no worries man...I'll be off methadone when I get on prednisone/prednisolone/hydrocortisone whatever pills they'll choose for my cortisol deficiency....the endocrinology dept at the hospital is taking its sweet time to call me and give me an appointment even after the doc specialized in the health of Men that I saw scripted me the testosterone, contacted them and gave me an IRM demand for my pituitary gland.

2 days left of methadone taking...then a day with none, actually i didnt have any today either, earlier this week i drank my dose in front of the pharmacist and then took my 5 takehomes home, drank another one augmented with hydroxyzine, tagamet everything that's an actual opioid booster you can think of as a sort of "one last time to achieve a nod with methadone before I'm off it, no matter how it fucked some of my health, I did stop putting all my money on dillies and hm contins except of food (it was real bad before i asked for help) etc. Now I'm prepared mentally, getting through this day with etaqualone and etizolam and xanax. Tomorrow, the only annoying non takehome day, then sunday last dose, the dose where I should be bringing my takehomes, but they won't be there, as I'll have another day of no methadone, then the awful "fun" of being at the hospital for around 16 hours and getting the 4mg when I feel really terrible. Then I gotta show up again the next day at the clinic just to talk with the doc to see how it feels and have more sub according to how I feel.

Also been told to take the following week easy, thankfully I work from home on a vpn so...I hope it won't be as shitty as the doc said it could be while my blood levels of bupe stabilize etc., if they do I'll have a nice holiday after this whole bullshit.

Peace out now, I'll report how it's going next tuesday night I guess.
 
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Does anyone reckon there's a difference between different brands of Bupe ? I find the Arrow ones to be more stimulating and less euphoric, morningside ones do a bit of both. The big oval white ones, made my Reckitt Benckiser are my favourite as they are the most euphoric.

Is it all in my head do you think ? Thre really shouldnt be any difference between the brands ? I think maybe some dissolve more effectively than others when taken sublingualy ?
 
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Does anyone reckon there's a difference between different brands of Bupe ? I find the Arrow ones to be more stimulating and less euphoric, morningside ones do a bit of both. Im not sure who makes the big oval white ones, because i never get them in their blister packs, but they are my favourite as they are the most euphoric.

Is it all in my head do you think ? Thre really shouldnt be any difference between the brands ? I think maybe some dissolve more effectively than others when taken sublingualy ?

Certainly possible. It's definitely that way with methadone.
 
I'm getting ready to quit an oxy thing. about 200 or so Mg a day sometimes more siometimes less. I have (9) 8 mg sub strips. Is it possible for me to quit completely with only these 9 strips and continue to function?

I am assuming I will only need a quarter strip or half , but I'm un sure of how often I will take these things. I need to keep working while I do this. I can get 2 days off if I have to.
 
I'm getting ready to quit an oxy thing. about 200 or so Mg a day sometimes more siometimes less. I have (9) 8 mg sub strips. Is it possible for me to quit completely with only these 9 strips and continue to function?

I am assuming I will only need a quarter strip or half , but I'm un sure of how often I will take these things. I need to keep working while I do this. I can get 2 days off if I have to.

You should be fine for a period of time, how long that is will depend on how high of an initial dose you'll need to hold off withdrawal. I would take 4mg to start and if that works try to taper as fast as you can. If 4mg does not hold off withdrawal try 6 or 8 and if that doesnt work those 9 strips are not going to be very useful.

My guess is you'll have a few days to 2-3 weeks without withdrawal.

gl
 
I'm getting ready to quit an oxy thing. about 200 or so Mg a day sometimes more siometimes less. I have (9) 8 mg sub strips. Is it possible for me to quit completely with only these 9 strips and continue to function?

I am assuming I will only need a quarter strip or half , but I'm un sure of how often I will take these things. I need to keep working while I do this. I can get 2 days off if I have to.

First off, if you want to use the 2 days off, do it the day after your last use, and then the next day. Best plan is to do your last oxy, then go to sleep. Then wait as long as possible the next day to take the Subs. You will be sick most of that day because you need to get to heavy withdrawals, then take the Sub. And having the next day off is a good idea because the Sub might not makee you feel 100% on the first day, more like 75%(if we assume full w/d is 0). 200 mg of oxycodone is not a crazy large habit, so you might feel fine that day, but if there is a day you will want to take off, its likely that one. Usually the first day on Sub you will just be tired, bored, have a lack of appetite, some minor muscle aches. Easy to deal with symptoms, like a minor illness, some NSAIDs, a bed, and some easy to consume food gets you through with no problem. By the 2nd day that drastically decreases and the Subs start to make you feel pretty good.

I'd honestly start with less than 4 mg, try like 2 mg and make sure you are in full out withdrawal, not just feeling a bit ill. So waiting 24 hours from last oxycodone usage usually does the trick, if you metabolize crazy fast then 18 might suffice. Take 2 mg to start and wait AT LEAST 2 hours, because these things take a long time to reach peak plasma levels. If you still are dying at this point, then take 1 mg more and wait 2 hours again. You have a limited amount, so this is the best strategy to not over use the medication. I have read many stories of people taking way more than necessary because 1. they didn't give it enough time to kick in and 2. they expected it to do more for them than just take away most the w/d on the first day.

You can most certainly get clean with 9 Subs. If you can stabilize your dose around 2 mg a day, go about a week at that and then start knocking it down. I good method is dropping down 75-80% of your dose every 3-4 days. If you keep doing that until you are down to .1 mg, then skip days for a week, then stop, it will be pretty much pain free. You will just need to dissolve the pills in water and administer with an oral syringe to measure out low doses like .1 and .25 mg.

If you do that^, the math will show 9x-8mg pills is more than enough, you will probably only need half. Of course you can always taper slower,
 
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Thats a big switch from 200mg to subs. Prepare yourself fir real, might feel weird in beginning. I did it from 100mg to about 8mg subs. Wait about 18-24hours cold turkey to start the subs, you need to feel like shit. Thats when your ready for first sub dose. Starting at 4mg is good, might need another 4mg later at night. Good luck and alot of people here to help. You might want to locate a source of subs before you switch.
 
Does anyone reckon there's a difference between different brands of Bupe ? I find the Arrow ones to be more stimulating and less euphoric, morningside ones do a bit of both. The big oval white ones, made my Reckitt Benckiser are my favourite as they are the most euphoric.

Is it all in my head do you think ? Thre really shouldnt be any difference between the brands ? I think maybe some dissolve more effectively than others when taken sublingualy ?

I definitely agree on the generic subs, other people have noticed the same thing too. I think it's a tie for 1st between the really oblong ones (are those the RB? don't recall, haven't seen them in a while) and the tiny little Hi Tech's with the arrow on one side, "8" on the other. Mentally I expected the tiny ones to be garbage because they're so small, even though I know 8mg of a substance only requires a tiny pill in the first place... really any time that I was switched from one generic to another I've felt a difference. Now I've only been getting the Hi Tech's for over a year straight and never feel anything.
 
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