Haaha Ya Ok....sweatheart relax, if you want to do dope then have a dope baby, if you want to smoke then have a smoker baby. We only trying to help but honestly its your problem. Your are right I don't have any experience with making a baby with a doped girl then having a suboxone baby. Thats a road I never going down but enjoy and good luck to you. Let us know how it all works out.
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Haaha Ya Ok....sweatheart relax, if you want to do dope then have a dope baby, if you want to smoke then have a smoker baby. We only trying to help but honestly its your problem. Your are right I don't have any experience with making a baby with a doped girl then having a suboxone baby. Thats a road I never going down but enjoy and good luck to you. Let us know how it all works out.
That's enough. I've been reading bluelight for years, and I have never seen such disrespect on this forum. It doesn't seem like you are "trying to help," your comments have morphed from heavy-handed judgements to ridiculous insults. I was trying to simply ignore your posts, but it's impossible now that you've begun calling women who are strangers to you "sweetheart."
Going back to your first post; I have a Master's degree from UC Berkeley, but I wouldn't dare claim to be "very informed and experienced with everything" in my own field, let alone in the science and history of buprenorphine as it relates to pregnancy and maintanance. Any woman (not "girl;" anyone who is menstruating-and can therefore conceive a child-is a "woman.") who happens to read this megathread will surely be disgusted and shocked by the degree of ignorance that your posts and comments display.
Women from all walks of life--from the "dope girls" you seem to know and associate with, to professional, educated women, are chemically dependent and take this medicine for that reason. And let's remember, some people (women included!) take buprenorphine for pain management. Regardless of their reason for taking buprenorphine, they are surely seeking to experience pregnancy peacefully, safely, and successfully. Women on this very forum have been open enough to discuss their successful experiences with having a babies who are 100% free of dependency.
You have every right to your opinions. You have no right, however, to spread misinformation and mock, offend, and deliberately try to shame women in this online community. More important than this being a "community," though, this thread exists for spreading harm reduction and education. Your posts seem to have a different agenda. I'm not writing this to taunt you or prompt further negativity. But I think women (and educated or compassionate men) here deserve a repreive from your opinions on the issue. I hope the moderaters of this thread will find reason to step in when a serious discussion becomes polluted like this again in the future.
Your getting way too emotional about some opinions I stated above. Where exactly did I disrespect as you say? I have been thru this exact issue twice with diff girls. Its a hard subject to talk about but don't get offended. My appoligies if you take my comments as insults but that is not the intention at all. Call it constructive criticism but I really do wish people the best on this site. Hopefully we can learn more about it and move forward.
THE_REAL_OBLIVION
Bluelight Crew
Well thanks for ignoring me and going all she said he said bitching posts...jk...maybe someone will eventually answer me..
Minnie2013
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Someone new like me who types in these very search results, "Suboxone and pregnancy" and finds "opinions" such as Mr. Ramsey is surely to be turned off completely from seeking any kind of treatment. For his reaction is the VERY fear she has. Sucks to be her though. Not your fault though. Just keep it moving eh?
I've been reading your posts for days and they have been so helpful. Imagine my disappointment? By the way, I am a middle class college educated woman who takes suboxone. I've had two healthy babies and breastfed them both. I am alive to be their mother because of this med. And I'm so grateful my husband of 12 years didn't tell me to just keep it movin' sweetheart.
Thank you Zwanya for speaking up. You worded it much more eloquently than I could.
Ya my bad, guess that topic struck a nerve in me, and I am sparing you guys my own gory details with it.
Best wishes and sorry if I offended anyone.
@the real oblivion- Methadone and prednisone sounds like a scary combo. I always hated prednisone and it can make you gain weight, mood swings etc. The suboxone tablets should help you a little with the pain. Its more about lifting your spirits that actual pain relief but I also used it as chronic pain patient. The subs are probably easier to stay on a lower dose then taper off if you want. You should see the films up there soon. They are much easier to break into small doses for tapering. The only advice I could give is don't start sub treatment at a high dose. Really not neccessary and I see alot of doctors confused about that. 8mg of sub go a long way, if you start too high its a waste. Your receptors max out around 8-12mg. Transition from meth to subs is not something I know too much about. Hopefully someone on here can elaborate on that for you.
Best wishes and sorry if I offended anyone.
@the real oblivion- Methadone and prednisone sounds like a scary combo. I always hated prednisone and it can make you gain weight, mood swings etc. The suboxone tablets should help you a little with the pain. Its more about lifting your spirits that actual pain relief but I also used it as chronic pain patient. The subs are probably easier to stay on a lower dose then taper off if you want. You should see the films up there soon. They are much easier to break into small doses for tapering. The only advice I could give is don't start sub treatment at a high dose. Really not neccessary and I see alot of doctors confused about that. 8mg of sub go a long way, if you start too high its a waste. Your receptors max out around 8-12mg. Transition from meth to subs is not something I know too much about. Hopefully someone on here can elaborate on that for you.
Slum Survivor
Bluelighter
your planning on going from methadone to subs?? is that the basic subject here oblivion??
all i have is opinions based on what i know about the half-life of both medicines and the little bit of reading ive done about inducting patients into bupe treatment.
ive heard and read that going from methadone to subs can be rough at first and takes a while to get used to. its common to experience dysphoria for up to a few weeks while making the transition. the less methadone you jump at, and the longer time gap u go in between your last methadone dose, and your first sub dose, the better you will feel. im fairly certain on that one.
also subs have a longer half-life than the done, and some folks complain subs are harder to kick because of this. thats personal opinion tho, everyone could give a different answer on that one potentially.
i certainly dont want to discourage you from making the switch if thats what your doing tho!! (sure hope so, then i wouldnt feel like an idiot for posting all of this)
This has been happening alot around my area... people selling their subs, and they end up being empty. i agree what a total crap thing to do to someone. people are horrible.
ALWAYS check out the packaging on Suboxone films so you know they havent been tampered with.
and shame on whoever asked about that if they are trying to do the same
all i have is opinions based on what i know about the half-life of both medicines and the little bit of reading ive done about inducting patients into bupe treatment.
ive heard and read that going from methadone to subs can be rough at first and takes a while to get used to. its common to experience dysphoria for up to a few weeks while making the transition. the less methadone you jump at, and the longer time gap u go in between your last methadone dose, and your first sub dose, the better you will feel. im fairly certain on that one.
also subs have a longer half-life than the done, and some folks complain subs are harder to kick because of this. thats personal opinion tho, everyone could give a different answer on that one potentially.
i certainly dont want to discourage you from making the switch if thats what your doing tho!! (sure hope so, then i wouldnt feel like an idiot for posting all of this)
This has been happening alot around my area... people selling their subs, and they end up being empty. i agree what a total crap thing to do to someone. people are horrible.
ALWAYS check out the packaging on Suboxone films so you know they havent been tampered with.
and shame on whoever asked about that if they are trying to do the same
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I was thinking about the same, methadone has such a long half life. The switch could be tough. I don't know anyone that made this move which is surprising. You might feel bad the first week but better in the long run on subs. Methadone is way better for chronic pain though. This is something you and the doctor need to really talk about. How bad is your pain level?
BlueHues
Bluelighter
This has been happening alot around my area... people selling their subs, and they end up being empty. i agree what a total crap thing to do to someone. people are horrible.
ALWAYS check out the packaging on Suboxone films so you know they havent been tampered with.
and shame on whoever asked about that if they are trying to do the same
Yeah, burning people is horrible thing to do in the first place, but burning people who desperately need a little Suboxone just to stay well and get by is even worse, burning anyone with a habit is the lowest of the low! I've met a few stone-cold junkies in my day who have no problem stealing from anyone but who would never rip someone off for their opiate fix! I've been burned for the last $40 I could scape together when I was truly in WD and didn't have the ability or the energy to get more money, that's the worst feeling in the world! If somebody is truly sick and needs suboxone, most addicts will go out of there way to hook them up with enough suboxone to get them well, it's like an unwritten code...
Of course, there's Suboxone doctors out there that will cancel your appointment and refuse to write you a new script if you show up 5 minutes late! and be like, "Come back next month, sorry!"...Those assholes should burn in hell!
The strip makes an indentation on the package. You should be able to feel the strip if you run your fingers over it. (I guess they could put a similar size piece of paper/other material in there tho.)
If its you buying it say, - No deal unless I get to open the package myself....seems pretty simple. I doubt anyone will take the time to make fraudulent N8 sub strips-
OBLIVIoN- (if you didnt know) some docs believe subs mess up the endocrine system as well.
You can snort subs but unless you get the mini subutex its not very enjoyable imo.
If its you buying it say, - No deal unless I get to open the package myself....seems pretty simple. I doubt anyone will take the time to make fraudulent N8 sub strips-
OBLIVIoN- (if you didnt know) some docs believe subs mess up the endocrine system as well.
You can snort subs but unless you get the mini subutex its not very enjoyable imo.
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The doctors in my area are way sketchier than the streets. The only time I was burned was by a doctor. Generally people are real legit here but I've heard horror stories. Ripoff types usually get whats coming to them. Having that happen to you during wd's is terrible. You whole treatment experience on subs depends on where your located.
Mr.Scagnattie
Bluelighter
Yeah I have gone ape shit and almost torn a doctors office apart before when they pull that slimy shit. They're just another form of drug dealer, worse sometimes, because at least dealers accept what they are and good ones do right by you.
To these doctors hawking this suboxone, you're just another junky, like junky number 5 and junky number 100. Just a name in a book forking over cash every month for a simple signature on a script that takes 2 seconds to write.
THE_REAL_OBLIVION
Bluelight Crew
Yes, I've gone down in dosage enough to be able to go 24 hours without methadone, its not pleasant, but its not the end of the world, with benzos its easily doable, i'm 41mg. My doctor says that skipping a day of methadone then swithing to bupe at the hospital for a day where they look at how i will do, and also visit them the next day to see if i need more than 4mg...etc. anyway I won't repeat everything. What you are talking about is about people who do not get to low doses enough of methadone before switching without much supervision from their addiction clinic and or are forced to do it like me due to the methadone fucking my endocrine system or other health problems and the doctors become inconsiderate and say just take nothing for a day even if someone is at 160mg..etc. One of my favourite opiate addiction doc was the one who set up the plan to switch to suboxone with me and he says he only saw 2 people have precipitated withdrawal in his 12 years of practice of being a methadone/sub doc. Now if my actual questions get answered it'd be awesome.
edit : this place (BL) rarely ever contains e-drama of this sort, if you aren't happy with somebody hit the Report button and the mods will take the action necessary. I suggest going to the Lounge if you want to troll each other.
edit : this place (BL) rarely ever contains e-drama of this sort, if you aren't happy with somebody hit the Report button and the mods will take the action necessary. I suggest going to the Lounge if you want to troll each other.
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THE_REAL_OBLIVION
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No...I'm not....look at my post which is in the previous page...
Sorry but it got lost through these ....people...having a feud on the internet.
Okay, methadone has screwed my endocrine system, I gotta take shots of testosterone and take oral prednisolone. I guessed something was wrong a couple months ago when at my ultimate dosage for me (60mg), I started to get really fat, irritable, lazy and lame. So over the months I dropped to 41mg where I am now in a tolerable withdrawal state and my doctors will switch me to suboxone after me taking nothing the day before showing myself to the hospital (where the clinic is) in little more than a week, on 9/11, lets hope my continuous willing to live isn't aborted by congress (clap clap obama, nice damage control for all the shit proving you're a criminal of the highest order now..but I digress.., at 8am in the morning so they can monitor me and then when they find im sick enough give me 4mg of bupe. I gotta come back the next day to tell em how i'm feeling and for dosage adjustments.
Now, i'm an ex pain patient who was ignored by the medical establishment (free healthcare don't mean shit when you are young....doctors then decide you cannot have pain issues...) and I also got enjoy the opiates as I got them on the black market (never saw heroin in my life, i live in a pretty small city, the last metro area of canada, no heroin here) but shooting up dilaudid was enjoyable. But I managed to find nodding on methadone when boosting it with hydroxyzine, benzos, etaqualone and tagamet (not all at once, except the hydroxyzine being always present yes, anyway, I was a long time benzo patient before I even touched anything stronger than codeine pills for minor injuries). Yes, believe it or not I am able to obtain pleasurable nods from methadone, I don't do it all the time but I like how I have no repercussions of over-using my methadone now that I have 6 privileges a week and blah blah....will bupe really never give me anything resembling a high and pain removal?
Cos if it doesn't, fuck my goddamn pituitary gland for being unable to endure the methadone...it's not like I was taking massive doses....sure I'm gonna do the switch for my own health (damn I feel awesome since I give myself a weekly testo shot along with the prednisolone pills, I feel rejuvenated by several years (i'm in my early thirties but I felt like if I was 70 at my worst before the blood tests confirmed shit was fucked up).
So, bupe for pain relief ? I know it comes as temgesic .2mg pills and BuTrans patches....how is it ? I don't feel like taking the tmj and nerve damage my jaw has taken and made me suffer for a decade almost before I decided to shoot dilaudid into me. And I'm not expected to have fun at all with it eh ?
Feeling so much better by countering the methadone's bad effects like I am with the extra meds could seem viable, but now it's too late, I yelled and screamed at the docs enough to switch me to something that doesn't kill my brain glands....too late to go back now.
edit : Also, I'm aware that the pills i'm going to be given...a big 6 a week...just like my methadone privileges..no change...canadia is so bizarre to you guys i know, we dont have such a thing as sub doctors, suboxone appeared 2 years ago max here...anyway the pills I will get are told to be used sublingually or they dont work at all. So those are impossible to snort or use in any other way ? Or is there just one suboxone pill that is supposed to be used sublingually but works in other ways ? There is no film here either but that's not a big loss afaik.
Sorry but it got lost through these ....people...having a feud on the internet.
Every PILL form of suboxone can be used in different ways afaik. If you post the actual kind of suboxone you're getting it would be easier to answer this.
You could IV sub but its pretty stupid imo (far more risk then reward even w/micron filter)
You can also snort your sub and it should be more effective this way than sublingual.
Theres a way to use alcohol to make your sub more effective when taken sublingually.
You can use the search function to learn about that if you wish.
sorry not sure about the pain questions, from what I have read its pretty weak for pain relief.
THE_REAL_OBLIVION
Bluelight Crew
The pills are "Suboxone" pills, so I imagine the brand name first thing that came out and is still used. It's surely not like a Subutex pill (which I could only get if somehow the naloxone causes big problems...I hear it can happen and then they do switch to that). I haven't seen them yet..like I said I have a whole week and a couple days left of taking 41mg of methadone then a whole day of taking nothing. Then I'll go to the clinic which is at the hospital at 8 am and they'll put me in external medicine....i dunno where exactly that will be probably in a part of the ER reserved for that, because it's not inpatient where i'd be there for 2 days. I'll come in that day, stay 4-5 hours to after taking my first 4mg of bupe to see if I react well and do not have precipitated withdrawal..I doubt i'll have it 41mg is barely lasting me 14 hours and it's uncomortable the whole day...which was my goal...get to a dose of methadone that didnt do the job, skip a whole day of dosing, be monitored from 8 am at the hospital until I guess the afternoon when I won't be able to take it anymore. Then they will give me 4mg of suboxone pills i gotta use sublingually (the leaflet says swallowing them does nothing) and i'll go home after I feel decent. I'll have to come back the next day to see how much more i'll need to be upped to then be seen a month later like when i was on methadone, one appointment a month etc.
I can't wait for this thing to be done....I skipped on trying to switch while inpatient when I was still at 47mg..., 47mg was when I started to feel a little unsatisfied...then was dropped to 44 for 2 weeks, then 41 for 2 weeks...and then take half the dose (47/2) the day before doing an inpatient stint of 2 days but fuck that, here they mix everyone with alcohol and drug problems....when I was there 9 months ago I was mixed with alcoholics and cokeheads saying their withdrawal was worse than mine by magnitudes (fucking cokeheads egoistic retards i hate them), i had to be unlucky filled with nobody understanding why I still needed "to get high" from the meds they gave me and i was called an idiot by one of the fat squaw native chick there cos I said "I wish they just gave me a huge dose of LSD, it would make me forget about opiates" just to be abused verbally etc. and she told the alcoholics in the place who'd make fun of me....anyways..no matter my benzos i take since almost a decade unlike opiates and which is why im allowed to have them barely did anything except knock me out since i take hydroxyzine and tagamet everyday to boost the methadone since i'm at 44mg and less I could not do it at all yet when taking 47mg and suddenly just take half of that, also I always see or almost always see different doctors, often students, I'm glad the last time I went at my monthly appointment to discuss that it was the male doc I get along with the most over there and he understood my logic of trying to use the lowest tolerable dose of methadone, get used to feeling meh all the time and have me take NONE before the switch...I really fear precipitated withdrawal and he agreed with me, unlike the other chick doc who thought she had a better idea than the research I brought before end or posts here by hmm, the massive methadone speialist who says the switch should be done at 30mg...i wont be doing that but I have trust in this one for reasons I already talked about. The medical issues methadone caused me (hypogonadism, cortisol defienciency)...I have a paper for an IRM of my pituitary gland to take in case it isn't neoplasms on my pituitary gland which made the methadone exacerbate an already present condition ( wouldn't surprise me....i have been on "temp" disability for a various amount of things since 5 years, doctors could never figure out what was wrong with me until I altered a form for blood tests my GP gave me where I added tests for a lot of things including testosterone (the 2 tests), cortisol and other shit....turns out my instincts turned out to be right...I can't wait to get a higher dosage of prednisolone too, the testosterone dosage is just fine, i'm seeing the fat I gained from methadone disappear, including the bitch tits and seeing myself gain lean muscle mass which is great...although I realize more prednisolone or any cortisol drug will keep me fat unless I keep my cardio exercises going on (bought a really expensive mountain bike so I could go through any terrain and have a real cardio workout uninterrupted by grass, bike trails that are shortcuts in the city's woody areas which are full of rocks etc....I wanted to get into shape by just having walks and shit but my *very* flat feet do not allow for that. So the biking is awesome.
Wish me luck....if i have cancer of the pituitary gland...even if it's benign tumours....that's shitty and they're gonna have to remove them. I thought methadone's awesoem painkilling effect for my bad jaw injury would remove tons of my problems...obviously not...condemned to back luck I am.
Because if bupe doesn't have good painkilling effects, although I know it is a painkiller in its own right, just much much less likely to cause testosterone deficiency (also cortisol), apparently all opiates can cause this kind of stuff long term, but I think methadone and other totally synthetic ones have way more chances to cause this, i know many people who are on Kadians and MS IR (morphine) or hydrmorphone (HYdromorph Contins and Dilaudid) since decades and they never heard of things like this being possible...because if bupe doesnt kill my pain (enough) i'm back to square one.
Anyway, I'll have a huge argument to give my topamax and trileptal scripting ass neurologist seeing as he caused by proxy this bullshit when trying to treat my tmj disorder and trigeminal nerve damage with epilepsy pills. My GP would script me OXY IR 5mg pills once a day which should have been 10mg bid or Codeine Contins 200mg bid (which was honestly really good, i'm a good metabolizer for codeine, like real good, 220mg was making me nod for very long even when I was shooting up dillies only for the rush..) would script me these only once a month, no refill, so i'd have to take monthly appointments, his office is extremely far and not even in the town I live, getting a GP in most canadian provinces is very difficult when the ones your parents had died and no replacement seeking was done by the gov then (they have to now, but i'm born in the early 80's not 8 years ago).
Sorry I can seem mad and full of fear but that's a state I seem totally warranted to be in.
I can't wait for this thing to be done....I skipped on trying to switch while inpatient when I was still at 47mg..., 47mg was when I started to feel a little unsatisfied...then was dropped to 44 for 2 weeks, then 41 for 2 weeks...and then take half the dose (47/2) the day before doing an inpatient stint of 2 days but fuck that, here they mix everyone with alcohol and drug problems....when I was there 9 months ago I was mixed with alcoholics and cokeheads saying their withdrawal was worse than mine by magnitudes (fucking cokeheads egoistic retards i hate them), i had to be unlucky filled with nobody understanding why I still needed "to get high" from the meds they gave me and i was called an idiot by one of the fat squaw native chick there cos I said "I wish they just gave me a huge dose of LSD, it would make me forget about opiates" just to be abused verbally etc. and she told the alcoholics in the place who'd make fun of me....anyways..no matter my benzos i take since almost a decade unlike opiates and which is why im allowed to have them barely did anything except knock me out since i take hydroxyzine and tagamet everyday to boost the methadone since i'm at 44mg and less I could not do it at all yet when taking 47mg and suddenly just take half of that, also I always see or almost always see different doctors, often students, I'm glad the last time I went at my monthly appointment to discuss that it was the male doc I get along with the most over there and he understood my logic of trying to use the lowest tolerable dose of methadone, get used to feeling meh all the time and have me take NONE before the switch...I really fear precipitated withdrawal and he agreed with me, unlike the other chick doc who thought she had a better idea than the research I brought before end or posts here by hmm, the massive methadone speialist who says the switch should be done at 30mg...i wont be doing that but I have trust in this one for reasons I already talked about. The medical issues methadone caused me (hypogonadism, cortisol defienciency)...I have a paper for an IRM of my pituitary gland to take in case it isn't neoplasms on my pituitary gland which made the methadone exacerbate an already present condition ( wouldn't surprise me....i have been on "temp" disability for a various amount of things since 5 years, doctors could never figure out what was wrong with me until I altered a form for blood tests my GP gave me where I added tests for a lot of things including testosterone (the 2 tests), cortisol and other shit....turns out my instincts turned out to be right...I can't wait to get a higher dosage of prednisolone too, the testosterone dosage is just fine, i'm seeing the fat I gained from methadone disappear, including the bitch tits and seeing myself gain lean muscle mass which is great...although I realize more prednisolone or any cortisol drug will keep me fat unless I keep my cardio exercises going on (bought a really expensive mountain bike so I could go through any terrain and have a real cardio workout uninterrupted by grass, bike trails that are shortcuts in the city's woody areas which are full of rocks etc....I wanted to get into shape by just having walks and shit but my *very* flat feet do not allow for that. So the biking is awesome.
Wish me luck....if i have cancer of the pituitary gland...even if it's benign tumours....that's shitty and they're gonna have to remove them. I thought methadone's awesoem painkilling effect for my bad jaw injury would remove tons of my problems...obviously not...condemned to back luck I am.
Because if bupe doesn't have good painkilling effects, although I know it is a painkiller in its own right, just much much less likely to cause testosterone deficiency (also cortisol), apparently all opiates can cause this kind of stuff long term, but I think methadone and other totally synthetic ones have way more chances to cause this, i know many people who are on Kadians and MS IR (morphine) or hydrmorphone (HYdromorph Contins and Dilaudid) since decades and they never heard of things like this being possible...because if bupe doesnt kill my pain (enough) i'm back to square one.
Anyway, I'll have a huge argument to give my topamax and trileptal scripting ass neurologist seeing as he caused by proxy this bullshit when trying to treat my tmj disorder and trigeminal nerve damage with epilepsy pills. My GP would script me OXY IR 5mg pills once a day which should have been 10mg bid or Codeine Contins 200mg bid (which was honestly really good, i'm a good metabolizer for codeine, like real good, 220mg was making me nod for very long even when I was shooting up dillies only for the rush..) would script me these only once a month, no refill, so i'd have to take monthly appointments, his office is extremely far and not even in the town I live, getting a GP in most canadian provinces is very difficult when the ones your parents had died and no replacement seeking was done by the gov then (they have to now, but i'm born in the early 80's not 8 years ago).
Sorry I can seem mad and full of fear but that's a state I seem totally warranted to be in.
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Crazyeighths
Greenlighter
Hey guys.. I searched around and didn't find any results pertaining to my experience, so allow me to apologize in advance if this is something that has become common knowledge.
I was going to a sub doctor when I lived in New York City, and all was good (aside from just being expensive).
I moved back home to TN recently, and was searching around for sub doctors in the area to continue getting my prescriptions. I decided it couldn't hurt to check with my GP, just in case for some odd reason he had the license to prescribe it. In my researching before going in and talking to him, I discovered that to prescribe suboxone for a treatment program they must have the license we're all aware of, however, the key word being treatment program. It turns out, that if it is prescribed for off-label use, any ole doctor can prescribe it. Of course, it works wonders
for my depression and anxiety. My general practitioner, being the awesome fucking guy he is, said he would absolutely be willing to prescribe me my normal doses for my depression, and VOILA! No more monthly fees, no more appointment fees, just a checkup every 6 months and the normal script cost from the pharmacy! Of course this will only work if your GP is willing, but mine had no issues with it whatsoever.
Not sure if anyone else has had this experience, but I just wanted to let everyone know since it saved me a hell of a lot of money and trouble not having to go in every month.
I was going to a sub doctor when I lived in New York City, and all was good (aside from just being expensive).
I moved back home to TN recently, and was searching around for sub doctors in the area to continue getting my prescriptions. I decided it couldn't hurt to check with my GP, just in case for some odd reason he had the license to prescribe it. In my researching before going in and talking to him, I discovered that to prescribe suboxone for a treatment program they must have the license we're all aware of, however, the key word being treatment program. It turns out, that if it is prescribed for off-label use, any ole doctor can prescribe it. Of course, it works wonders
for my depression and anxiety. My general practitioner, being the awesome fucking guy he is, said he would absolutely be willing to prescribe me my normal doses for my depression, and VOILA! No more monthly fees, no more appointment fees, just a checkup every 6 months and the normal script cost from the pharmacy! Of course this will only work if your GP is willing, but mine had no issues with it whatsoever. Not sure if anyone else has had this experience, but I just wanted to let everyone know since it saved me a hell of a lot of money and trouble not having to go in every month.
Thats the trade off when moving down south from nyc. The doctors in nyc are trying to maintain upscale lifestyle, your condition is meaningless to them. Down south you might find doctors who actually listen and treat patients. I'm born and bred nyc so this is my comfort zone. Recent problems with treatment here have me thinking about a move south or west, or to europe lol. That monthly sub cost is a killer, specially over many years. We found ways to get it free here but alot of redtape and bullshit. Depends where you go for treatment. Some places are soo strict, piss tests weekly, 2 days a week group therapy so those spots we avoid. In chronic pain cases why would I need group therapy. Then we have the crooked dr's who just milk the system, never talk to you and just hand out scrips.
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