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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy PCP Thread

my middle class white ass found a guy for this stuff in the ghetto. it just seems odd to buy psychedelic drugs from a dope dealer, but PCP has always been on my bucket list. i'm willing to trust the guy, but he said around here all you can get is the liq made up already, and i'd really prefer not to smoke the stuff. what can I do here? put the liquid into a nasal spray bottle? evap? is oral/sunlingual/etc. an option with PCP?

point being, around here it's only a hood drug but I want to treat it like an acid or mushroom trip, and a wet cigarette just doesn't cut it
 
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drinks with evil said:
Try out DXM first
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Why? DXM is unpleasant to a great many people, PCP is likely to be more "clean" feeling and enjoyable. Granted it has a higher abuse risk, but it doesn't have the laundry list of serious contraindications.

djrolling said:
my middle class white ass found a guy for this stuff in the ghetto. it just seems odd to buy psychedelic drugs from a dope dealer, but PCP has always been on my bucket list. i'm willing to trust the guy, but he said around here all you can get is the liq made up already, and i'd really prefer not to smoke the stuff. what can I do here? put the liquid into a nasal spray bottle? evap? is oral/sunlingual/etc. an option with PCP?
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It'll be easier to titrate if you smoke it, but you can take it via other ROAs, just be cautious with your dosage.

cigarette just doesn't cut it
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Why?
 
^ya you're much better off smoking hood dust joints than sticking that shit up your nose or stomach, could have some fucked up cut that will poison you. i never had problems smoking dust other than coughing and shit.
 
I'm pretty sure if you think you have access to real PCP, you probably don't. Likely it's just 3-meo-PCP. If you're sure it is real, just take a low dose and see how you feel. It is neurotoxic like someone else mentioned, however studies have been done showing that GABA drugs prevent most, if not all of the toxicity. This is true for all dissociatives, not just PCP. So take some etiz or xanax or whatever you have access to. It will probably also counteract any overstimulation you may have because PCP is also a dopamine releasing drug.
 
Do you have a source for that?

Also if its in the hood I think it likely he has got pcp. It is popular in the ghetto and often sold by the same dealers that sell dope and coke. I doubt the dealer is buying 3-meo and passing it off as pcp.
 
DJRolling said:
and i'd really prefer not to smoke the stuff. what can I do here? put the liquid into a nasal spray bottle? evap? is oral/sunlingual/etc. an option with PCP?
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Hey man. The liquid is PCP freebase dissolved in diethyl ether. The only things it's usually cut with is either more ether or nail polish remover (acetone). Even uncut it probably contains a fair amount of byproducts and impurities, such as benzene, cyclohexanone, or piperidine. None of theses are anything that you should be spraying up your nose, swallowing, or holding in your mouth. These chemicals can be extremely irritating to the mucosa. The stuff is meant to be smoked, so just dip a cigarette or cigarillo in it and start smoking. The potency varies A LOT. So go slow. Take a few hits, put it out and wait a few minutes, and repeat as necessary. Trust me you don't want to go over board with PCP. There is a very fine line between
an interesting and enjoyable experience, and a terrible, long, confused and scary pseudo-psychotic trip. You wont go flipping over cop cars or eating babies or anything you've heard in the media, but too much dust WILL be very unpleasant.

As someone already mentioned, taking a benzodiazepine such as Xanax or Valium before hand is a good idea, and you should have some extra on hand in case your trip takes a turn for the worst.

PCP is actually one of my favorite and IMO one of the most intriguing substances I've tried. I've been using it moderately, and at times heavily for about 15 years. The majority of my experiences have been positive, but I have had some rough times on PCP mostly due to my being irresponsible and smoking more than I know I should.

If you treat this drug with the caution and respect it deserves, you will probably enjoy it. Be safe dude.
 
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Maybe if you've had experience in other drugs like angel dust, and I mean ALOT of experience, you don't wanna just go around fucking with angel dust that shit actually kills
 
Is it the typical american liquid shit ? I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole, powder pcp is the way to go, like it has always been up here....at least you can measure out your dose. Several studies have shown that the typical street legends regarding pcp in the USA have a shade of truth due to the fact people smoke (which is an extremely fast ROA, and this kind ROA with pcp makes it for much more volatile reactions in most people) and it's random doses at that, you don't know if that hit was just 5mg or 60...or 100.. while with powder pcp (albeit often cut just for making it easier to weight, with inactives of course) is really nice in moderate doses, it gives such an euphoria and an augmentation in concentration....I've done things in video games and irl I didn't think I would ever do (the video game part was guitar hero scores that I wouldn't be able to beat sober or gta san andreas missions) and this one time after snorting around 20mg over a day I've emptied a billiard table in front of my girlfriend who didn't get a chance to play lol, it really helps out filter out any information doesn't need when trying to accomplish something, probably a result of the mild dissociation lowerish to medium high doses cause (it's really more stimulant at those doses), everyone I've seen go into peeholes have always regretted it (i've seen temporary psychosis from people eating and snorting too much of it for several days and it wasn't pretty).
 
DrinksWithEvil said:
Try out DXM first
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I'd suggest ketamine first since it has a much shorter duration and is WAY more euphoric, then go for mxe, to me its much more deep and the hole lasts longer and is just the bees knees. I think pcp has such a bad rap from all those flip outs they show on cops of poor people living in the ghetto, wandering around outside in the summer. Remember heat and dissociatives don't mix, they're inside drugs for me at least

And as for hood dealers passing of 3meopcp as pcp I highly highly doubt the vast majority of them even are aware of rcs, especially psychedelic ones. I tried explaining one all about the 2c's and he looked at me like I was speaking chinese
 
I've had DXM which I liked (a lot) and tried many doses 50+ in all ranges including the 4th plateau, however ketamine I didn't like so much.

I found ketamine very different from DXM and not at all as pleasant especially if even a bit of alcohol is thrown in the mix.

I will say once on ketamine I enjoyed myself and felt in a 'galactic' space when closing my eyes it was very much psychedelic and intense in a good way and another time when I mixed nitrous balloons with the k which is to this day one of the most memorable psychedelic experiences, imagine n-dmt but with euphoria and dissociation..also much of the psychedelia took form in audio form but visual as well.

Thing I like most about K is the mood lift at the end of a few bumps, it feels very much anti depressing but I never understood people that get addicted to K.

I would like to try PCP except that if it is like K but like a shot to the face due to smoking (rapid onset) then I wouldn't enjoy being so spaced out I couldn't put out or finish my laced cigarette. Although i have heard you can get very sedated and get a pretty euphoric effect from it to the point you dont want to move but i hope its more sedating than k-like.

p.s. Very hard to impossible finding this in Canada
 
PCP is very rare. Formaldehyde ('wet') less so. I try to personally avoid buying psychedelic drugs in the hood--the hood is good for crack sometimes and heroin if you're into that, but that's about it. Also, the average dose of PCP to trip is 5 mg, so you can see why it's easy to overdose and freak out or worse.
 
Dresden said:
PCP is very rare. Formaldehyde ('wet') less so. I try to personally avoid buying psychedelic drugs in the hood--the hood is good for crack sometimes and heroin if you're into that, but that's about it. Also, the average dose of PCP to trip is 5 mg, so you can see why it's easy to overdose and freak out or worse.
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No-one actually sells formaldehyde, can we stop propagating this myth please? Wet IS PCP.
 
^This.

There's no formaldehyde in wet. That is a myth. PCP is not at all rare, especially in inner cities. It's actually pretty common. I know that in some places it's hard to get, or doesn't exist at all, but in other places its everywhere. Liquid dust, "wet", "leak" or whatever you want to call it is indeed PCP. Formaldehyde has no psychoactive effects, it causes cancer, and is extremely irritating to the eyes, nose, and mouth. Attempting to smoke it would be very, very uncomfortable, not to mention incredibly stupid.
 
I smoked mint leaves dipped in PCP last night, which led to a very interesting meditation session. I wish I knew the dose. :(
 
muie said:
I've had DXM which I liked (a lot) and tried many doses 50+ in all ranges including the 4th plateau, however ketamine I didn't like so much.

I found ketamine very different from DXM and not at all as pleasant especially if even a bit of alcohol is thrown in the mix.

I will say once on ketamine I enjoyed myself and felt in a 'galactic' space when closing my eyes it was very much psychedelic and intense in a good way and another time when I mixed nitrous balloons with the k which is to this day one of the most memorable psychedelic experiences, imagine n-dmt but with euphoria and dissociation..also much of the psychedelia took form in audio form but visual as well.

Thing I like most about K is the mood lift at the end of a few bumps, it feels very much anti depressing but I never understood people that get addicted to K.

I would like to try PCP except that if it is like K but like a shot to the face due to smoking (rapid onset) then I wouldn't enjoy being so spaced out I couldn't put out or finish my laced cigarette. Although i have heard you can get very sedated and get a pretty euphoric effect from it to the point you dont want to move but i hope its more sedating than k-like.

p.s. Very hard to impossible finding this in Canada
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Yeah, "mess" "mescaline" is mostly an eastern canadian thing, i dont think it goes farther west than sudbury in the north and maybe kingston in the south. Not as many bikers which have as much power as the cops in western canada, except maybe BC considering all of the good things that make their way from BC to here...but anyways..

http://www.drugrehab.ca/pcp-addiction.html

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/qc/nouv-news/com-rel/2009/06/090616a-eng.htm

Last time I've had some pcp, i was buying what they call "pure" which is not, but is about 20% pure, long ago they realized only a few select people up the chain have the brains and knowledge to manipulate what some know is called 1/100, which is the pure liquid. 1g for 100 grams of "mess" and some heroin thrown in just to have a little extra addictiveness...I wish I didn't know all this info, but since it is info I acquired long ago when I was pretty young and dumb and had made my way up weed and lsd distribution....i knew about some funny things like that. Strangely this RCMP article saying they dismantled a PCP trafficking network in 2009...last time I had was in the fall of 2008, and it was 1/50, very liquidish but still would stick together...the only way i can describe its appearance is if cum sticked together like boogers. I tried smoking it this way by using a butter knife and just spreading a little bit over a joint, and it did work, and i did get pretty zoinked out, but since I was newly on benzos at the time i didn't flip out at all, I felt pretty awesome and me and my friend who did it with me the second time i did that really found it awesome to feel like a painless robot that was able to perfectly throw some pie cardboard box we found on the street and throw it in a basketball net while fucking around on the land of small primary school, perfectly with one hand all the time.

This aspect of PCP in small to moderate doses always really amazed me and confuse me, how can a drug with such a chemical, social and medical effect and reputation could make me gain extreme dexterity...I'm sure the dissociation when not in hole areas and the fact that pcp unlike dxm and ketamine is pretty stimulant at these doses explains it..but sometimes I wish i had a small stash of pcp for when I want to things to impress people...maybe could make money by doing things that seem impossible to most people...I know I did and impressed people at mundane things like I've said in my previous post..I hope the rcmp hasn't destroyed that pcp network...it was something that made quebec a special scene...heh, like the meth that is only in pills. I still don't like that people with less self control and maybe a bit less intelligent would do doses way farther than a p-hole and act toxic to themselves and their environment.

I see that Operation, which they say was only targeting the north shore of qc, where white civilization ends except for 2 small towns there and how it might have contributed to the general destruction of the remnants of the natives in canada before the younger generation woke up late last year...I agree that it's not a drug to distribute to the poor weak and socially alienated.....natives are to Canada often what "ghetto people" and blacks / latin americans are to the USA. Although I doubt they only sold to these places, the lab being in quebec city does not surprise me, everybody from the maritimes to eastern ontario know that the stuff is made in Qc City and has always been since the 70's. It might have been good in some way that the mounties did something about that but I don't think the drug results in the same when it makes it to people from my original hometown, which was quite northern and kinda in the middle of qc city and those indian communities...a fun fact, the people who seemed to have very low will and control over themselves fucking themselves over with mess (pcp) were people who were natives living outside the reserve or half natives who do not mention being that due to the centuries of cultural massacre we've imposed upon them. We probably altered their DNA by having them become alcoholics on purpose for mirrors....I don't know if its a bad evolutionary trait they have acquired but these people always seem to struggle with hard drugs much more than their fully european fellow citizens even if they live in towns and cities and not in reserves and originally do not display anything natives about themselves.
 
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I don't know if wet is real pcp or not, but I do know that real pcp is one of the most damaging recreational drugs there is. I knew someone who went insane from it.
 
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