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Opioids Methadone Mega Thread and FAQ v 2.0

Hello. I have been rummaging these forums for years and I have never become a member but I have decided to because I need some people to talk to for advice that can actually help me and not just guilt me. Here's the reason I'm posting here.

I have been on 140mg hydrocodone (extracted due to apap) for as long as I can remember. So long that i barely feel that and just take them to get by. I have been on plenty of other things but its Atleast once a week I get the call that hydro is ready. Anyway I'm trying methadone and I am scared of what to dose at correctly. I'm just gonna jump out there and say I took 20mg yesterday and I'm at 30mg today and I still feel horrible but I have read so much on here about how a higher dose could kill and all that. How much should I be taking? I find so many discrepancies everywhere I look. Someone help I don't want to take too much.
 
Lostopiodict:
Do you mean you are taking methadone on your own or are you getting it prescribed?

And what do you mean by you still feel horrible? Are you truly physically sick or do you just feel mentally crappy and miss being high? 30mg methadone should usually be plenty to stave off withdrawal for someone who normally takes 140mg hydrocodone. It does take a few days to build up in your system so it's normal to not feel great for the first few days but surely you must be feeling way better than if you took nothing??
 
Im trying it myself now. Sub is the only thing i can seem to get and i cant stand it. Makes me feel like a crack addict. Such a stimulant i dont want to eat. Dry mouth and extreme dirty sick type feeling. May not be like that for everyone but that's how I feel about it. Today I feel A little sick. Headache overall painful aura type feeling. I have no motivation or energy. Can't focus on anything. Kinda like I have a hangover.
 
You know I'm really not sure what my plan is. I just want to get off the hydro. I was taking 6 10s 4 times a day 2 years ago and I have been going down little by little since but lately I have been taking more and it's starting to get ahold of me and I just want to be done
 
I'm down to 3.5 10s 4 times daily. But I extract 90% of the apap. Everyday I wake up and have a plan to take just 1 but then I find some reason to go "well today is special because..." Then I end up taking 3 more so I take more on those days when I try to plan. So tapering down and waking up and just swallowing the ones I know will give me a little boost to make it will keep me on track. I got mad one day though because someone sold me 7.5s instead of 10s and I ended up taking them all out of anger and since that day I have gone up from 3 10s 4 times and moving down to 3.5 and sometimes 3.5,5,3.5,3.5 because I still don't feel it right by the time I dose the second time
 
Lostopiodict said:
I'm down to 3.5 10s 4 times daily. But I extract 90% of the apap. Everyday I wake up and have a plan to take just 1 but then I find some reason to go "well today is special because..." Then I end up taking 3 more so I take more on those days when I try to plan. So tapering down and waking up and just swallowing the ones I know will give me a little boost to make it will keep me on track. I got mad one day though because someone sold me 7.5s instead of 10s and I ended up taking them all out of anger and since that day I have gone up from 3 10s 4 times and moving down to 3.5 and sometimes 3.5,5,3.5,3.5 because I still don't feel it right by the time I dose the second time
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Uh yeah...just an idea, but maybe you should think about starting a real taper. This being a methadone "mega' thread, should not even be considered (if you were thinking of it as a detox tool)
for hydrocodone
 
Ive been at a methadone clinic for 1.5 years now.You start out at 30mg and move up 5mg a day until you reach 60mg.You then see dr again if youre not stable and move up 5mg a day until you reach 80mg then you see the dr again.This is the correct and safe way to do methadone.People that die from methadone is usually do to a combo of methadone and some other drug rather than methadone by itself.Dont take 200 or 300mg and expect for bad things not to happen.common sense
 
WBROCKSTAR said:
Ive been at a methadone clinic for 1.5 years now.You start out at 30mg and move up 5mg a day until you reach 60mg.You then see dr again if youre not stable and move up 5mg a day until you reach 80mg then you see the dr again.This is the correct and safe way to do methadone.People that die from methadone is usually do to a combo of methadone and some other drug rather than methadone by itself.Dont take 200 or 300mg and expect for bad things not to happen.common sense
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Thanks this helps a lot. I went ahead and took 10mg more and am feeling a whole lot better. I just don't want to slip back. And it's not just hydro for me that's just the easiest thing readily available and if I could afford it and continue to safely take it at these amounts I could easily take 200-240mg a day but I choose to try to keep my number low. Luckily once I hit 10 in one day I start to feel guilty.
 
Just to ease my fear. As long as I gave it time to kick in I would begin to feel high before I would need to worry about dying right? I'm not trying to get high but at that point I would know that I increased too much. I just don't want this to be some game of Russian roulette
 
Lostopiodict said:
Just to ease my fear. As long as I gave it time to kick in I would begin to feel high before I would need to worry about dying right? I'm not trying to get high but at that point I would know that I increased too much. I just don't want this to be some game of Russian roulette
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Not necessarily, that's one of the problems with methadone, sometimes people don't feel high, go to bed and don't wake up. Or in some situations, they feel high for a while, the high wears off, but the respiratory depression continues and they take more without realizing that they still have significant respiratory depression. This is part of what makes methadone dangerous, for many people it's not very euphoric, and it lasts a really long time and builds up on itself.
 
Lostopiodict-something else that will help you is to take 1-2 Tagemet exactly one hour before you take the methadone.This is what people call poteniating.It makes your liver enzyme stop producing the chemical or the function of breakingdown the methadone.This means the methadone will last longer rather than it leaving your system.Instead of taking 50mg of mdone,take a tagemet then an hour after that take 30 or 35mg of mdone.The less you take the better off youll be in the long run
 
Yes swimmingdancer is correct that some people dont get high from it( like myself) but I do know people that really do get high from it.Its not an energetic euphoric high,but rather what everyone calls it ( THE NOD) Some people use it for withdrawal symptoms,some for getting high,and some use for cronic pain.I have several friends with cancer that use it for cronic pain,but Ive never got cronic pain relief with it
 
Hello.
I'll be brief as I have posted about this a couple times already in "other drugs" (the back story, that is). I take OxyContin. I love opiates. I also have severe acute pancreatitis (more painful than childbirth - and yes two different woman have confirmed this) so I need a high dose of daily opiates for the pain. I also have fibromyalgia and IBS. Anyway, yeah, lots of owchies for me.
My doctor found me out taking 3x more than he prescribes me. Next day I'm sent to a detox day clinic for people being tapered off alcohol and/or heroin. And I'm being put on methadone.
I fucking hate it. I feel irritable a lot, generally feel "out of it" in a bad way and feel nauseous in a burny way sometimes. I feel like I'm on a very very slight but very dirty high (without the high). I want off this shit.
At first I thought I'd go along with it and then take my oxy and/or benzos as I wanted (I know about every drug, interacts, combinations etc etc inc. on methadone). Although I felt good from a little oxy last night and just a 1.5mg xanax to sleep, I felt very drowsy this morning, falling asleep against my will without realizing etc.

I've been at a day clinic since Tuesday having my methadone dose titrated up. I was on 45 today and yesterday, now it looks like 35-45 will be my maintenance dose overall I get prescribed. However, I want off this shit. I was wondering once I'm stabilized at - let's say 40mg - how fast will I be able to taper myself off it without WDs? Considering I've only been on it 4 days so far and will have my own opiates if I need them (for pain or WDs).
 
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A wise old junkie once told me when it comes to methadone dont yo yo. Meaning increase then decrease then increase bc you feel shitty. You will get used to the taper as long as youre not going down 5mgs a week.
 
I have heard of a lot of people liking methadone.

Is the reason I feel shitty because I'm still new and they're still fucking with my dosage every day?
 
Their main goal is to get you completely above the withdrawal stage,meaning you can go 24+ hours with 0 withdrawal symtoms and a little extra for physical wellbeing( not high though) ..So are you saying youve made up with your dr since he sent you to methadone treatment.You said you were gonna taper off methadone cause you had opiates again
 
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