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The Big & Dandy 2C-iP Thread

hello n peace :)

I was wondering is 2c-ip in comparison to 25i-nbome?

shakan27 said:
hmmm I deidnt realize that reuptake inhibitors/releasers have cross tolerance with 5-ht2a agonists, that's good information. I'll steer clear of everything for at least 10 days before I run another trial, gonna be difficult cause I have doc, 2c-c, and 5-meo-mipt on the way too that I've been itching to try.

off topic- pho is seriously one of my top ten favorite foods, it is actually very popular in my area, there is a place that sells it every few blocks.
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@ assassat - Although I haven't tested 2C-iP yet, it is almost certain that this compound is *very* different from 25I-NBOMe.

@ shakan27 - Generally speaking, cross-tolerance between serotonin agonists is stronger than between serotonin reuptake inhibitors and/or releasers and serotonin agonists. Nevertheless, the latter form of cross-tolerance is significant enough, so an appropriate period of abstinence is vital if one wishes to get the most out of the agonists.
 
assassat said:
I was wondering is 2c-ip in comparison to 25i-nbome?
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lol assassat why didn't you just email me and ask this bro? any who there are VERY different compounds

@iamanogaucha I'll give my body a good break before I they this again
 
lamanogaucha said:
@ assassat - Although I haven't tested 2C-iP yet, it is almost certain that this compound is *very* different from 25I-NBOMe.

@ shakan27 - Generally speaking, cross-tolerance between serotonin agonists is stronger than between serotonin reuptake inhibitors and/or releasers and serotonin agonists. Nevertheless, the latter form of cross-tolerance is significant enough, so an appropriate period of abstinence is vital if one wishes to get the most out of the agonists.
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Food for though, tolerance to an NDRI might actually be beneficial for the body load of a psychedelic. Food for thought. Other food for thought is that the mindset of someone who WOULD have such a tolerance would probably not be the best mindset for psychedelics.


To people that have used 2C-iP: At heavy doses does it give those weird bursts of thought and adrenaline? That 2C-P "crazy" feeling? Is it even more similar to the mescaline high than 2C-P? Because 2C-P feels a lot like mescaline is described to me, except more brutal. 2C-iP sounds like it's a lot closer to the laidback craziness of mescaline than the testosterone pumping in your face action of 2C-P.
 
bloodshed344 said:
Food for though, tolerance to an NDRI might actually be beneficial for the body load of a psychedelic. Food for thought. Other food for thought is that the mindset of someone who WOULD have such a tolerance would probably not be the best mindset for psychedelics.


To people that have used 2C-iP: At heavy doses does it give those weird bursts of thought and adrenaline? That 2C-P "crazy" feeling? Is it even more similar to the mescaline high than 2C-P? Because 2C-P feels a lot like mescaline is described to me, except more brutal. 2C-iP sounds like it's a lot closer to the laidback craziness of mescaline than the testosterone pumping in your face action of 2C-P.
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2c-IP was pretty crazy, I saw my personality being stretched out on this spinning 3d object right before my ego got lost. also there was pretty bad bloating and gas
 
I think that both 6-APDB and bk-MDMA are weak 5HT2a agonists, so that would also cause some tolerance to 2C-iP's psychedelic effects.

I'm not sure about bk-MDMA, but the AP(D)B's are known to be slightly psychedelic.
 
bk-MBDB... but yes, your observation regarding weak agonism might be right, which would only reinforce my point.
 
Fagott said:
I think that both 6-APDB and bk-MDMA are weak 5HT2a agonists, so that would also cause some tolerance to 2C-iP's psychedelic effects.

I'm not sure about bk-MDMA, but the AP(D)B's are known to be slightly psychedelic.
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6-apdb is very trippy, I had oev and cev on it
 
bloodshed344 said:
From what I've seen 2C-iP looks to be more like a recreational empathogenic stimulant with some pretty trippy effects as well, this is based on anecdotes I've read. Considering that already sounds really close to the way 2C-E affects me I'm not sure I'd like it, especially if it was even LESS trippy. However if it carred 2C-P's love and weirdness and put it into a more recreational, less psychedelic, easier-to-dose package it may be a better party drug than 2C-I or 2C-D (I doubt better than 2C-D though).

If that really is a picture of hofmannblotter she's cute. But also a camwhore... because I aint ever see no guys with their pic as their avatar. Just joking, no offense hofmannblotter serioussly!
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Dude the girl in the picture is my GF.... :\
 
Fagott said:
I think that both 6-APDB and bk-MDMA are weak 5HT2a agonists, so that would also cause some tolerance to 2C-iP's psychedelic effects.

I'm not sure about bk-MDMA, but the AP(D)B's are known to be slightly psychedelic.
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interesting point... I always thought it to be written in stone that bk-MDMA cannot be a 5HT2A agonist, because of its N-alkylation. but when I think of it, I actually should know better, since I experienced CEVs several times with methylone...
 
I was thinking about giving this another go, by itself this time, maybe this weekend before school starts. has anyone else tried it??
 
No, but please, please do try it, by itself, with no tolerance, and write a full report! I am curious to try it but I can't purchase it yet.
 
sorry for my lack of report. I ended up getting a bunch of new chems that I have been playing around with. full moon is coming up and I was gonna do a 4-aco-dmt and 5-meo-mipt combo but maybe I'll try 2c-ip again. the long duration of this one makes it hard to work into my school schedule. if I don't get around to trying it this month I will for sure next month when school is over.
 
Woo hoo! The 2C-x series is expanding! I assume it may have reduced potency. that said, i wonder if 2C-IP(or 2C-2P to refer to the "2-Propyl" part of 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-(2-propyl)-phenethylamine) would have nootropic effects. It might at oral doses between 5mg and 15mg and would become a nootropic of the future. If it has stimulant-like and mood boosting effects like a low dose of 2C-I does, it would be used for those purposes such as 2C-I was. As long as there is mild psychedelic effects, the 2C-x series tend not to lose nootropic effect at lower doses. While moderate to severe activation of 5HT2a receptors seem to be psychedelic, mild activation produces cognitive boosting effects.
 
This reminds me, I got a sample of this about three years ago but haven't gotten around to trying it yet. I keep putting it off because it usually gets compared to 2C-E which I don't particularly enjoy.
 
Hello friends,
just figured I would drop this little nugget of information here about this substance.
I have tried this twice now, first at 35 mg then at 50 mg. 35 was barely threshold level, 50 was a decent trip. They were both marred pretty substantially by something though.
The experience (and the day(s) after it seems) are marked by intense urinary disturbance. This manifests as frequent urination (about once every 20 minutes), painful urinary retention and bladder cramps. The first time this happened I had already been experiencing mild symptoms in this regard for about a week so I wasn't sure whether the drug was to blame for the sudden acute spike in the symptoms. Perhaps it had exacerbated them in some way.

An experiment yesterday however has left no doubt in my mind that this drug seems to be heavily responsible for the urinary symptoms. It's T24:00 and I am still feeling this aching discomfort in my abdomen and the constant need to urinate. It's the like the typical phenethylamine urinary retention but amplified to an absurd hyperbolic degree. Never touching this one again I don't think.
I'll have a full report in about a week.
 
Wow, sounds alarming. Looking forward to the report on the effects though. Was the trip worthwhile besides the urinary issues? Anything noteworthy?
 
Yikes, that doesn't sound good.... I already pee enough, don't need to do anymore, thanks. Maybe there's a reason we don't hear too much about this one.... I wonder to what extent, if any, this might also apply to other 4-isopropylphenethylamines?

Thanks for the heads up, Nervewing, it's much appreciated. I'm definitely looking to the full report as well!
 
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