This thread is starting to annoy me....when you go into a deep nod, you're not aware of what's going on anyway, it's like fading in and out of consciousness, so how can you really rate that? If you take enough strong opiates, you go into "nodding out"....It makes more sense to talk about what opiate "high" you prefer, which is also subjective and can change from day to day for individual users using the same drug....
There's certain drugs that people are mentioning that require high doses to even achieve a nod.....
Also, I get the impression that a lot of people haven't even tried a wide enough variety of opiates to really give an informed opinion.....
I've seen a lot of people on a lot of opiates and used a lot myself, and hands down, heroin makes people nod harder for longer more consistently than just about anything else, so anybody that says heroin doesn't make them nod-out has probably only done garbage heroin a couple times....
I have yet to see a pill user that heroin didn't work for, in fact, quite the opposite....most pill users get dangerously fucked up from even mediocre H....
what I have seen is oxy and hydromorphone etc. users that try heroin is.....their expectations are way too high from heroin....If you have a massive pill habit and only snort 50 mgs of heroin, it probably won't do all that much to you....and if you live in an area where heroin is rare, it's probably being way over-priced and stepped on...
If you live in an area where heroin is plentiful, like the north-east US, and you got your hands on a gram or a few bundles of decent H, you'd realize immediately that it blows most pills out of the water for price, potency and duration.....Oxymorphone, hydromorphone and oxycodone are really the only common opiates I've tried that I would say could go toe to toe with heroin(there's a few others too), but theyre so expensive per mg it's impractical...
Still, a nod is a nod, and in a deep nod, you're not cognizant of what's going on anyway.....so how can you really rate that?
also, if you take enough of any opiate to the point that you keep nodding out and you literally can't keep your eyes open, that's a good sign you're close to ODing and going into a permanent nod! Throw benzos on top of it and you're just asking for death....I like being high, but I like to be aware of what's going on so I can actually enjoy it, and thats what it makes it so dangerous...It's a fine line