


Vaping is pretty close in terms of rush and addictiveness though I must say. Unfortunately, I find vaping these PV stims to be plagued with seemingly toxic side effects. I want to vape the apvp I've got coming but I think it's back to bumping for a while. Though I really should just flush it down the fucking toilet![]()



Yeah I'm beginning to come to the opinion that apvp sucks. It's like a dull muted mdpv with all the compulsion and really none of the fun. I went on a 500 mg binge about a week ago and it was like a lobotomy in powder form. In doses high enough to provide euphoria there was some really serious short term memory loss. I felt really spaced out the whole time. I mean Really really spaced out. It was weird.
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So here's a question for you guys - has anyone ever seen mdpv in crystal form? I have been seeing a lot of apvp and even apvt in crystal form. I have never seen mdpv in this form. I wonder if there is some reason why you can't grow mdpv crystals or if vendors didn't realize that people seem to think that crystals = high purity which it most certainly does not.
Opinions?
Crystals are definetly the latest big trend in the RC market it seems
Giving the oven tek another go. Hopefully with even better results.
First time I used a small amount of pv (about 100mg) and dissolved it in a really small amount of water. The evaporation process happened very quickly (20 minutes to bone dry)due to the small volume of water used. Results were impressive but not incredibly so (definitely worth the effort though).
This time around I dissolved 500mg in 1/4 cup of water. Same temperature as last time (dial set to 200 but my infrared thermal scanner says ambient temp is actually around 160ish). Evaporation is taking considerably longer as expected. My hope is that a longer baking/evaporation period will result in more/fuller conversion. Last time around I wonder if the evaporation happened so fast that the process didn't fully occur.
One thing is for certain. This time around my oven is expelling much much more odor then last time. Part of that is obviously due to a larger starting amount but I bet it stinks more this time because more of this degradation/conversion is occurring. 5 times more starting material but easily 20 times more smell.
Can't wait.
I was skeptical when I read about it. But I tried it, and it really did make a big difference. I fully intend to do it with evey batch from here on out.
I too would be keen to hear any info on whats happening. I assure you mydrugbuddy, it was not a Placebo effect. There were a few others on page two or three of this discussion who experienced the same thing, and were the ones who convinced me to try it. I'm VERY glad I did.
I wouldn't mind at all, of course not. Go nuts. I'll look for it if you do, and eagerly read through any discussion had on the matter. Though I don't really care enough to ask around myself. I was very happy with the results, it worked for me, so that's enough for me. Selfish, I know.
Happiness,
The Professor


